Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Demon Hunter]

Jean Gray, your skills in eglisch even worse then my.

Take look on context:

We've broken into Alvarez arc... we're going to bring you battles with toughest enemies we've ever seen... Maybe this will even lead to the final battle with Zeref... The enemy boss characters are also ...

Even we my bad eglisch I pretty clear see it said Spriggans are toughest enemies from all we faced and dealt before.
Yes, it's like it.

Furthermore, Hiro was not sure for 1st point he would dealt thing with Zeref (so as well with Acno /because Dragon King festival/) in that arc,

they AREN'T LFMAO.

and Zeref has been debunked many times before.

don't take Hiro's statement at face value.

 

[Xzilerate]

It doesn't matter if it's DS magic. There's literally no difference between DS magic and a dragons powers since the former is just the latter enchanted into a human. And no, we don't. We see the end result which doesn't mean a thing. They could've been weakened by dragon slaying magic before being finished off by those spears. Belserion even said it was impossible for humans to fight dragons before dragon slaying magic came into existence which means spears aren't capable of single handily killing a dragon otherwise humans wouldn't have needed DS magic in the first place. No average human is beating an average dragon which there were tons of back in the day and no top tier human is beating a top tier dragon.

 

[WoWfan]

we do not see any dragon slayers on the battle field, just soldiers, which gives less of the proof there were and it was just humans with regular weapons. Well Belserion was obviously being hyperbolic for the sake of protecting the humans. Again, no showing of DS in the scene. even fresh dragons could not even kill weakened humans which GMG proved.

they AREN'T LFMAO.

and Zeref has been debunked many times before.

don't take Hiro's statement at face value.

There is nothing that was debunked as it is simply a fact based on statements and showings

 

[Demon Hunter]

There is nothing that was debunked as it is simply a fact based on statements and shown gs

keep yourself telling that, Mr Jacobiscountrylevelwithnofeats.

 

[Xzilerate]

We see Irene (a DS) literally standing right there you moron and we have no idea if any of those individuals were dragon slayers. We're never given any context on what dragon slayers looked like back in the day with the exception of Irene. So now we're throwing out in-universe statements because it flat out contradicts the nonsense you keep spewing. Cool. Another person I know not to bother taking seriously anymore. Enjoy the ignore list.

 

[WoWfan]

keep yourself telling that, Mr Jacobiscountrylevelwithnofeats.

It is what it is, Dragons being killed by human weapons = dragon hype is overhype nonsense

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We see Irene (a DS) literally standing right there you moron and we have no idea if any of those individuals were dragon slayers. We're never given any context on what dragon slayers looked like back in the day with the exception of Irene. So now we're throwing out in-universe statements because it flat out contradicts the nonsense you keep spewing. Cool. Another person I know not to bother taking seriously anymore. Enjoy the ignore list.

That is just one DS, and that is not even on the same battlefield as Acno, they were soldiers, we have seen soldiers of the same armor before, yet they were not locked up or anything. DS are as diverse in appearance as series has proven. Hey it is not my fault that Hiro decides To make Dragons as easy to kill as any human can be.

 

[Demon Hunter]

It is what it is, Dragons being killed by human weapons = dragon hype is overhype nonsense

yeah, and greatest Black Wizards with the biggest power boost getting one punched by one guy

 

[WoWfan]

yeah, and greatest Black Wizards with the biggest power boost getting one punched by one guy

The punch that literally warped reality via heat, making the BW time powers meaningless and thus delivering a decisive blow? Yes

 

[Axiomus]

The top 5 god dragons and Igneel can each solo the Alvarez Empire. The 6 of them combined would stomp the ever-loving soul out of the Alvarez Empire in a stompfest so hard it's actually against the rules to make a battle thread with these conditions because of the rules against spite threads. The only way to reach the level of any of these dragons is to do what Acnologia did and become a top tier dragon yourself with dragon slaying magic. This alone tells us that dragons are stronger than humans.

Like I said, there are no Spriggans in the top 10s while there's like 6 naturally ocurring dragons and 1 guy that turns into a dragon. Even if you ignore the parent dragons (all of which are stronger than Irene, because they have more MP than Wendy and more physical strength than Erza) and White Witch (who is Zeref level by hype, and at the height of her powers had all FT's mp), Animus with Dragon Cry still scales to the power level of every dragon that died during the GMG. He has the feats of stabbing a hole through Natsu (who only survives this due to massive unexplained POF shenanigans), which is leagues upon leagues better than making Natsu's arms react.

But even if we say Irene is stronger than dragon cry-powered Animus.....Congratulations. The one Spriggan you managed to sneak on the list is still a dragon. Like Acnologia, Irene is at her strongest when she's tapping into her powers of a dragon. She even tells us to cast her master enchants, she is tapping into her wisdom of a dragon. Maybe we can split the 10th spot 50/50 with August as well, but at this point we're reaching the pinnacle of human magic and he still doesn't beat out any of the dragons on this list.

The GMG dragons were no-selling attacks from things like Kagura's archnemesis and Erza's swords, as well as the weapons of Crocus' army. There's no chance a regular human is killing Zirconis with a spear. Irene herself said that even though Erza can destroy a meteor, she still cannot cut a dragon's scales. If the soldiers 400 years ago were piercing dragons with regular spears, then they at the very least must be striking with force greater than Erza's meteor splitting slash. That would make each one of them stronger than any of the Spriggans anyways, and they're probably all getting their strength from dragon slaying magic.

 

[Ratrace]

He never said Acno was weaker than Spriggans, heck he said Spriggans are stronger than most villains in the series, that excludes even Zeref, I do not even know why you think Jacob‘s knife can cut dimensions

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That would mean that the Spriggan did best in the Arc which had better feats than most villains in the series

Spriggans were the most the most powerful enemy they faced but they didn’t have as hard of a time against them compare to other villains.

 

[WoWfan]

Irene is not a traditional dragon like real dragons still, presides August already scales, and is even higher When compared to Guildarts.

again, those wizards are already beaten and worn down before the Dragons arrived, and since they can not one shot any of them, that is not impressive for the dragons at all. That does not stop regular spears from piercing dragon skin before, and Irene is already stronger than most dragons, they all do not scale to each other. Most humans already outstrip most dragons in the verse.

Spriggans were the most the most powerful enemy they faced but they didn’t have as hard of a time against them compare to other villains.

Well being compared to other villains meaning that they were already in a bad state of being when they fought?

 

[Ramen]

Who can touch Wraith?

I was inspired by @grey matter's post in the Wraith vs Gray thread so I wonder what your guys full thoughts on who can potentially touch him, who can touch him by feats and who are big wigs that cannot touch him at all?

Anyone that has TP

 

[Axiomus]

Irene is still at her strongest when she's a dragon. She can only cast her strongest spells when she tap into the wisdom of a Sage Dragon.

As a species, dragons are still stronger. Both Irene and August are still far weaker than the God Dragons, and each of the God Dragons can pretty must solo the Alvarez Empire if they scale to Acnologia. Acnologia himself is only as strong as the god dragons when he's in his dragon form, and fighting with the physical abilities of a dragon. The hoard of 10,000 dragons in future Lucy's timeline completely decimated the human population even though humanity outnumbers them by 17 million.

The GMG dragons killed more people than any other villains. The mini-dragon spawns that Motherglare laid killed a bunch of people, including characters like Gray. Ultear had to turn back time to save everyone. The anime fillers had the dragons each killing their respective dragon slayers, except for Natsu who was never attacked by Motherglare because Rogue was fighting him on his back. Even if you assume that's non-canon, they were still pretty much screwed unless Natsu destroyed the Eclipse.

 

[Ramen]

Irene is still at her strongest when she's a dragon. She can only cast her strongest spells when she tap into the wisdom of a Sage Dragon.

As a species, dragons are still stronger. Both Irene and August are still far weaker than the God Dragons, and each of the God Dragons can pretty must solo the Alvarez Empire if they scale to Acnologia. Acnologia himself is only as strong as the god dragons when he's in his dragon form, and fighting with the physical abilities of a dragon. The hoard of 10,000 dragons in future Lucy's timeline completely decimated the human population even though humanity outnumbers them by 17 million.

The GMG dragons killed more people than any other villains. The mini-dragon spawns that Motherglare laid killed a bunch of people, including characters like Gray. Ultear had to turn back time to save everyone. The anime fillers had the dragons each killing their respective dragon slayers, except for Natsu who was never attacked by Motherglare because Rogue was fighting him on his back. Even if you assume that's non-canon, they were still pretty much screwed unless Natsu destroyed the Eclipse.

Ajeel stomps her with universal level sand........

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I don't understand how people can say the dragons hype is not serious since the dragons in each arc were the strongest characters. The top 11 characters by like 50 tiers and then comes humans.

 

[Axiomus]

Ajeel stomps her with universal level sand........

Oof. I'm still traumatized by Jacob's knife being anything other than trash.

 

[Ramen]

Oof. I'm still traumatized by Jacob's knife being anything other than trash.

Woah, that knife would kill Zamasu and Beerus........ @Jean Grey

 

[Aurelius]

Anyone that has TP

Jellal, hahahahahaha let the wank begin

 

[Ramen]

Jellal, hahahahahaha let the wank begin

Jellal solos the Narutoverse

 

[WoWfan]

She is already stronger than dragons in her human form, and that was weaker than her current self, Dragon Gods are not the issue, as average dragons are not close to actual strong wizards, there is no proof that people have died in the attack, Alvarez killed more people than they did. Well since Kyria cannot sever limbs and Jacob’s knife can, that makes Jacob stronger.

anime is not canon

 

[Axiomus]

Average dragon > Average human. Strong dragons > strong humans. Top Dragons > Top Humans. Only way to reach the level of a top dragon is to become one yourself, ala Acnologia. Irene as a top human can take down the average dragon with dragon slaying magic (GMG dragons), but she's not even taking down a strong dragon (parent dragons) as a human. She's not taking down a top dragon (God Dragons) at all. Acnologia fought Igneel as a dragon, and still lost an arm.

Animus gave Natsu a huge hole which wouldn't have healed if Natsu didn't get a massive POF boost from drinking Lucy's tears. Jacob's knife couldn't even scratch his arms. They didn't severe any limbs. Kyria's blades could at least cut Natsu.