That sounds like sexual harassment shitPOF boost from drinking Lucy's tears.
That sounds like sexual harassment shitPOF boost from drinking Lucy's tears.
You say about same Kyria who with her blade roar was not able even to scratch Laxus and Jellal skin?Animus gave Natsu a huge hole which wouldn't have healed if Natsu didn't get a massive POF boost from drinking Lucy's tears. Jacob's knife couldn't even scratch his arms. They didn't severe any limbs. Kyria's blades could at least cut Natsu.
That just means Jellal and Laxus have better durability than base Natsu. It doesn't mean Natsu was nerfed.You say about same Kyria who with her blade roar was not able even to scratch Laxus and Jellal skin?
If you say about her, thank you very much for proving Natsu was nerfed.
Parent dragons would stomp the average Spriggans (like Jacob), and are much stronger than the average dragons. Parent dragons flew around the continent and defeated a weapon system that is capable of defeating every mage within Ishgal. They were so powerful that face could not completely drain their powers when it had already done so to all the mages in Ishgal. They achieved a feat which Makarov considered using Fairy Heart to accomplish.Strong Wizards are stronger than average dragons, I am willing to say that Parent Dragons are close to the same level as strong wizards, but not that much, And GMG have proven they cannot even kill wounded or tired wizards. Paren Dragons have shown no feats that surpass that of average dragons. Irene still managed to pressure Acno and earning his acknowledgement
Natsu just got up, there was no healing involved, and if you think Lucy has healing tears, that is some BS, he was just that strong, he can fight even when, Natsu needed his heat to melt the knife so it does not cut him, that is the danger it imposes
Lol....If you think Happy and Natsu can zip around the continent and wipe out all 3000 faces after it's already been activated, you clearly did not read the Tartaros arc. The entirety of Fairy Tail can't even destroy 3000 faces even if it wasn't activated. The fact that Makarov thinks it was necessary to use Fairy Heart to stop the face says it all. Face is a magic that negates other magic. It has magic power, and I've already shown you what that magic power looks like when it explodes (I'll show it again below). The parent dragons destroyed this magic power over 750 times each (3000 faces split among 4 dragons).Flying around a continent doesn equate to light speed which even strong Wizards have shown to dodge, an dNatsu can even tag them. A device like face is hax bas, nothing really saying for it’s stats. even before the time rewind, there are only 4-5 people that died, even then it is not impressive when they were just at the wrong place at the wrong time And the dragons wee easily defeated then. Not impressive considering wizards are already weakened and injured, yet they did not kill a single one, while there are plenty of enemies that did more in the series. That roar is still weaker than the Spriggans, there was no evidence of healing as healing is exclusive to Sky Dragon Slayer Magic and Sky God Slayer Magic. PoF does not do that, only One Magic likely does, as it is established, they are just friends, not lovers. No, the fact he used heat means his regular resistance to blade attacks is not enough
So you are saying that Ingeel is slower than regular Dragons? Good to know, Igneel had time to talk, he had time to dodge, plus he was not even held down by AcnoAnswer the question dude. Can Natsu and happy cross Ishgar in seconds and destroy all those face bombs?
Natsu tagged Igneel who wasn't moving that fast either. He was fighting Acnologia.
I'll copy my response from there:Who can touch Wraith?
I was inspired by @grey matter's post in the Wraith vs Gray thread so I wonder what your guys full thoughts on who can potentially touch him, who can touch him by feats and who are big wigs that cannot touch him at all?
Irene was dragon slayer and now full dragon (you should count her in same pocket with dragon slayers and dragons).Sure:
Natsu, Zeref (hype of archmage), August, Jellal, Hades with GH (hype of archmage), Jacob (his magic can somehow hurt spirits)
Maybe:
Laxus (if he can use thought projection for combat), Wahl (he probably learns using his ability), all Dragons (assuming they know thought projection), Eileen (assuming she knows thought projection)
Logically, it should be everyone with good sense of flowing magic in the air. Zeref explained what's a magic, why some ppl are named as wizards and other as black wizards.I don't see any other characters in the series who can defeat him.
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Natsu had to project his soul tho so I think his Thought Projection is different from regular ones. Jellal's gave himself a clone and Laxus' was like projecting his mind. Don't think those are manipulating their souls like Natsu did.Anyone that has TP
What of other magics besides Thought Projection tho? Takeover magic since they have to do with taking souls? Fairy Law and Fairy Sphere have also effected Ethereal things like Jose ghost thingies and Mavis ethereal body so they could possibly hurt him as well. Spacial Mages? Erza's Nakagami? Magic cancelling abilities? Separation Enchantment was able to effect souls as well. Does mind hax work ghosts? (Lol).I'll copy my response from there:
I think, other than Natsu, Jellal was the only character who has used thought projection with enough skill for combat on screen. Laxus and the top councilmen have used it, but they were mere illusions or projections with no combat power.
Once anyone uses thought projection with combat power, I think they can defeat Wraith if they're on or above GOI/low Spriggan level, since Wraith seems to be around that level once someone can attack him.
I think these would be my candidates.
Sure:
Natsu, Zeref (hype of archmage), August, Jellal, Hades with GH (hype of archmage), Jacob (his magic can somehow hurt spirits)
Maybe:
Laxus (if he can use thought projection for combat), Wahl (he probably learns using his ability), all Dragons (assuming they know thought projection), Eileen (assuming she knows thought projection)
I don't see any other characters in the series who can defeat him.
Most powerful hax which is able to exist in universe -> time related one.I think we should define how powerful Wraith hax is, who can touch him, and who can he hurt. I honestly can't see him taking on anyone Skullion+ level either as he was running from basic punches from Natsu lol.
wIrene is not a traditional dragon like real dragons still, presides August already scales, and is even higher When compared to Guildarts.
again, those wizards are already beaten and worn down before the Dragons arrived, and since they can not one shot any of them, that is not impressive for the dragons at all. That does not stop regular spears from piercing dragon skin before, and Irene is already stronger than most dragons, they all do not scale to each other. Most humans already outstrip most dragons in the verse.
Well being compared to other villains meaning that they were already in a bad state of being when they fought?
Natsu had to project his soul tho so I think his Thought Projection is different from regular ones. Jellal's gave himself a clone and Laxus' was like projecting his mind. Don't think those are manipulating their souls like Natsu did.
What do you think about Takeover mages since they have to do with taking over souls? Do you think Fairy Glitter and Fairy Law are capable of hitting him? How about Dragons?
What of other magics besides Thought Projection tho? Takeover magic since they have to do with taking souls? Fairy Law and Fairy Sphere have also effected Ethereal things like Jose ghost thingies and Mavis ethereal body so they could possibly hurt him as well. Spacial Mages? Erza's Nakagami? Magic cancelling abilities? Separation Enchantment was able to effect souls as well. Does mind hax work ghosts? (Lol).
I think we should define how powerful Wraith hax is, who can touch him, and who can he hurt. I honestly can't see him taking on anyone Skullion+ level either as he was running from basic punches from Natsu lol.
Is that what I said?So you are saying that Ingeel is slower than regular Dragons? Good to know, Igneel had time to talk, he had time to dodge, plus he was not even held down by Acno
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Laxus can see him regardless and Jellal can use actual TP.Natsu had to project his soul tho so I think his Thought Projection is different from regular ones. Jellal's gave himself a clone and Laxus' was like projecting his mind. Don't think those are manipulating their souls like Natsu did.
What do you think about Takeover mages since they have to do with taking over souls? Do you think Fairy Glitter and Fairy Law are capable of hitting him? How about Dragons?
I mean human (enchanter) Eileen. Dragon Eileen is within DragonsIrene was dragon slayer and now full dragon (you should count her in same pocket with dragon slayers and dragons).
Logically, it should be everyone with good sense of flowing magic in the air. Zeref explained what's a magic, why some ppl are named as wizards and other as black wizards.
Usually good perception of magic have "classical" wizards, warlocks, druids etc.
In FT it should be all mages who know thought projection, enchanters. black wizards (because they "steal" ether), divine mages, spatial and time mages.
And ofc all archmages (because they should have good perception by default).
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P.S. If be true, without "wanking", Wraith affinity is mere casual, and don't impressive. Emotional ppl just overhyped it to cosmic level.