Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Aurelius]

Here's a question for people:

Will Natsu ever surpass Acnologia?

 

[Ramen]

It'll probably happen.

 

[grey matter]

You should've put the Greta Thunberg "how dare you".
LMAO

 

[sharkai]

Anyone surprise Erza still knockout for some chapters? Man Mashima is making her more balance and realistic in her fights more. Laxus still carrying her and she hasn't wake up.

Yeah, I'm hating Erza less now lol (love her outside of fights tho)

I don't think Laxus can go DF. 2nd generation DS can't go DF if I remember correctly, instead they have drive or something related to their lacrima. I believe Laxus used it in his first fight with Natsu and Gajeel, he had scales and became buff

You people are really optimistic.
Generally speaking, erza is normally realist at the start

I am almost 100% sure (mishma has never let me down) when sh!t hits the fan, majority of the fans will be screaming bloody murder at erza soon enough

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That would be Gray's equivalent, yes.

Buts that pof. Didnt gray went back to his normal power tier. So didnt the same happen to natsu after gajeel fight. But if that happens to natsu, natsu would technically need pof to fight evenly with gajeel

 

[Axiomus]

Buts that pof. Didnt gray went back to his normal power tier. So didnt the same happen to natsu after gajeel fight. But if that happens to natsu, natsu would technically need pof to fight evenly with gajeel

Yes, it is POF. Difference is Natsu taps into his emotions nearly every single time he fights a big boss, and Gray's only tapped into his darkness when he thought Juvia died. You can almost say that the reason why Natsu is so strong is because he is so good at tapping into POF.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Because, even after getting amped by 2nd origin, Erza had high diff against Kagura, while Laxus extreme diff'd Jura.
Laxus also low diff'd Tempesta, who is around LFD Natsu tier. I don't see Erza low diffing LFD Natsu tiers
Kyouka's hax worked on Alverez Erza because she was powered by Neinhart. Alverez Erza would no diff original power Ikaruga or Azuma, yet couldn't. the only explanation is the illusions were buffed by Neinhart (I don't think 'Erza is injured' is a valid excuse, she had no superficial injury in that fight; while she was WAY more injured against Eileen and did fine)

PL obviously has to be a factor. Or else, macro beats August, Eileen, Zeref and even dragons. I'm sure you're not arguing for that case.

was that demon Tempester Laxus beat though???

I don't remember really haha but I'm pretty sure Tempester's human form is that skinny guy that was whooping base Natsu' ass.

not that it matters.

he already did good against the demon version while he was sick.

 

[GL_Nova]

Laxus got an amp too. He got RL and Erza got new swords. What's to say he's not exhausting his magic again if they fought? Obviously Laxus felt the need to use RL since his regular lightning couldn't put her down.

Laxus fought Kyria but he didn't care and at no point did it ever look like it affected him. Even if you want to say it did, Erza fought back for a lot of the fight.

Erza is close to Laxus' level. Also, it could very well be that Laxus got up because the WW's control faded since everyone else that was under her control also woke up despite being knocked out.

Yeah, Laxus completely overwhelmed her in base. She gave herself an amp, and Laxus did exactly what he’s been doing since he fought Natsu and Gajeel. He met her amp with his own, kept the gap alive and hit her with overwhelming force. Something he comments on, Erza is not the kind of opponent to take lightly. Hence why he matches her new technique with his own. An couldnt? She literally spend the entire chapter commenting on how much power he’s hitting her with. She has to
pull out all her trump cards just to stay in the game.

This is the downplay I’m talking about. Did you notice how my argument can easily and healthily include all attributes of the fight, and still hold true. You claim you don’t see how it affected him, but we know he used a secret art, and it’s the only one he used this arc. An since we’re interjecting things we think are obvious. Having already spent magic, using his trump card immediately to deal with Erza is good sense. Especially if I know the kinda asspulls she’s capable of.

Erza is clearly on the same top tier as Laxus & Gildarts occupy now. She has been since Alvarez’s end. She also clearly needs an amp to close the gap between her and Laxus in base. An another amp to close the gap once Laxus uses his own amp. These are facts. There’s still a gap between them. Not massive enough that Erza’s out of the battle, but she knows it’s not her fight to lose. She gunna have to work for it. Laxus is back up, blowing enemies away, and carrying Erza. There has been nothing to suggest that this was the WW. So for now that’s headcannon. Though mainly it’s irrelevant, as this point could just as easily have been the speech Erza made at the end of the fight. At this point the only real question left is what’s the gap between them and Gildarts.

 

[Demon Hunter]

btw, I don't know where people got the idea that Erza was on Laxus' level since forever.

it's been pretty clear during Tenrou arc that she wasn't.

@Axiomus my man, bring them some hard facts about that

 

[Ramen]

Yeah, Laxus completely overwhelmed her in base. She gave herself an amp, and Laxus did exactly what he’s been doing since he fought Natsu and Gajeel. He met her amp with his own, kept the gap alive and hit her with overwhelming force. Something he comments on, Erza is not the kind of opponent to take lightly. Hence why he matches her new technique with his own. An couldnt? She literally spend the entire chapter commenting on how much power he’s hitting her with. She has to
pull out all her trump cards just to stay in the game.

This is the downplay I’m talking about. Did you notice how my argument can easily and healthily include all attributes of the fight, and still hold true. You claim you don’t see how it affected him, but we know he used a secret art, and it’s the only one he used this arc. An since we’re interjecting things we think are obvious. Having already spent magic, using his trump card immediately to deal with Erza is good sense. Especially if I know the kinda asspulls she’s capable of.

Erza is clearly on the same top tier as Laxus & Gildarts occupy now. She has been since Alvarez’s end. She also clearly needs an amp to close the gap between her and Laxus in base. An another amp to close the gap once Laxus uses his own amp. These are facts. Laxus is back up, blowing enemies away, and carrying Erza. There has been nothing to suggest that this was the WW. So for now that’s headcannon. Though mainly it’s irrelevant, as this point could just as easily have been the speech Erza made at the end of the fight.

This is literally irrelevant, it doesn't change that Erza and Laxus are on the same tier and close in terms of power. Gildarts is still far above both.

I'm still arguing that Laxus is above her lool

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downplay

He's my favourite character, don't come @me with that downplay bs lol.

 

[grey matter]

was that demon Tempester Laxus beat though???

I don't remember really haha but I'm pretty sure Tempester's human form is that skinny guy that was whooping base Natsu' ass.

not that it matters.

he already did good against the demon version while he was sick.

It was the demon form IIRC. Yeah, the human form is skinny guy, while demon form is hairy and stuff.

 

[Demon Hunter]

It was the demon form IIRC. Yeah, the human form is skinny guy, while demon form is hairy and stuff.

yeah, just checked that his first appearance was in demon form but with a lighter skin than the one he used against Natsu which was darker.

 

[grey matter]

btw, I don't know where people got the idea that Erza was on Laxus' level since forever.

it's been pretty clear during Tenrou arc that she wasn't.

@Axiomus my man, bring them some hard facts about that

Yep, exactly. She had always been below Laxus, but was slowly reducing the gap. This has been made clear, at least through portrayal, multiple times.
If it wasn't clear from Tenrou (not sure why lol), then it should be in GMG. Only Laxus and Jellal were a match to Jura in that arc.

She's finally in Laxus tier now, largely because of her near infinite durability/tankiness. But she still needs buffs to give him an extremely diff fight

 

[Demon Hunter]

Yep, exactly. She had always been below Laxus, but was slowly reducing the gap. This has been made clear, at least through portrayal, multiple times.
If it wasn't clear from Tenrou (not sure why lol), then it should be in GMG. Only Laxus and Jellal were a match to Jura in that arc.

She's finally in Laxus tier now, largely because of her near infinite durability/tankiness. But she still needs buffs to give him an extremely diff fight

I guess they use that ol' fashioned comparison

Laxus beat Tempester.

Erza beat Kyouka.

Kyouka is much stronger than Tempester.

Erza > Laxus >= Kyouka > Tempester

 

[GL_Nova]

Yeah, I'm hating Erza less now lol (love her outside of fights tho)

I don't think Laxus can go DF. 2nd generation DS can't go DF if I remember correctly, instead they have drive or something related to their lacrima. I believe Laxus used it in his first fight with Natsu and Gajeel, he had scales and became buff

That’s never been stated. An it makes little sense. Especially when it’s having lacrima that allowed Sting and Rogue to use DF so easily. An we’ve seen DF Laxus already.

 

[grey matter]

That’s never been stated. An it makes little sense. Especially when it’s having lacrima that allowed Sting and Rogue to use DF so easily. An we’ve seen DF Laxus already.

I don't think he went DF against Natsu and Gajeel. I think it was lacrima drive

 

[Seven777]

As I recall Natsu described Dragon Force as "Igneel's secret teachings" so it could simply be that Laxus and Cobra don't know how to enter Dragon Force because they never learned.

 

[Ramen]

1st, 3rd, and 5th have DF. What's the common denominator? A real dragon

 

[GL_Nova]

This is literally irrelevant, it doesn't change that Erza and Laxus are on the same tier and close in terms of power. Gildarts is still far above both.

I'm still arguing that Laxus is above her lool

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He's my favourite character, don't come @me with that downplay bs lol.

I think everybody downplays him, because her reaction to the fight between Laxus and Erza has led everybody to downplay Kiria.

 

[grey matter]

1st, 3rd, and 5th have DF. What's the common denominator? A real dragon

Yep, this exactly.

 

[Ramen]

I think everybody downplays him, because her reaction to the fight between Laxus and Erza has led everybody to downplay Kiria.

No Kyria is still a formidable opponent and he's above both. However, Erza is close