Why not?Nah I don’t buy it.
Why not?Nah I don’t buy it.
His performance against Bluenote him being compared to Gmg Jura all that stuff, but whatever he’s not the only one.Why not?
Gildarts is in another level the only one who compareble to him in FT guild is natsu with DF that's why mashima didn't include him in FT most arcs because he is to OPGildarts is only spriggan plus tier so his ass could stay relevant.
Bluenote would've outright no diffed anyone else. He just overpowered his Gravity. IIRC Bluenote was never that good at CQC. That's Makarov's fault and just him being shocked since they were sleeping for 7 years. We all know Gilly would've wrecked Jura.His performance against Bluenote him being compared to Gmg Jura all that stuff, but whatever he’s not the only one.
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Natsu with DF one shots.FT guild is natsu with DF
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This is true. Dude would've (on his own) beat Phantom Lord, Jellal, Laxus, Sabertooth and done really well against Tartaros.that's why mashima didn't include him in FT most arcs because he is to OP
Bluenote was going blow for blow with him, Gildarts was just a bit stronger.Bluenote would've outright no diffed anyone else. He just overpowered his Gravity. IIRC Bluenote was never that good at CQC. That's Makarov's fault and just him being shocked since they were sleeping for 7 years. We all know Gilly would've wrecked Jura.
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Natsu with DF one shots.
yeah phantom mystogan alone destroyed all there branches so imagine what gildarts will do if he was there and jellal he would've destroy him alongside his tower with crash and laxus wouldn't dare to do the rebellion and he will solo sabertooth natsu alone solo the twin with base and jura wouldn't have any chance and he would provide a big help in destroying the faces with his OP magicBluenote would've outright no diffed anyone else. He just overpowered his Gravity. IIRC Bluenote was never that good at CQC. That's Makarov's fault and just him being shocked since they were sleeping for 7 years. We all know Gilly would've wrecked Jura.
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Natsu with DF one shots.
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This is true. Dude would've (on his own) beat Phantom Lord, Jellal, Laxus, Sabertooth and done really well against Tartaros.
I'm more surprised that Lucy has 2 votes.there is nothing really to discuss anymore.
btw, I'm surprised Erza and Mira have 3 votes in this pol.

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back when Neinhart one shot was impressive until Natsu casually punched himThe PL discussion will get interesting again now that Jellals getting an actual fight. I remember the old days when Jellal>Laxus was the more common belief. now we're not even sure he's Mira tier![]()

Laxus with magic eating cancer beating a guy with immunity is your example of good writing i guess."If they rematch and Erza uses power of friendship and bad writing (well, more than she already used), then she might win." They say, nowadays.
The CHAD reigns supreme.
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Yes, but that's because he's actually strong, not because he somehow cuts meteors AND dragons in half with all of his bones broken (due to said dragon using a single slap). Laxus winning against overwhelming odds is actually a clutch: for Erza, it's a writer freebie.
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I guess we have more interesting topic in mira vs grayWhy are we still debating this? Laxus is stronger than Erza. Done. They had a close battle. Some will say it would've been easier if he didn't fight Kyria which is true to a certain extent. Erza received some "questionable" new swords.
Laxus is undoubtedly the strongest mage on Aldoron.

Ha, I gave Jellal fans so much shit for that back in the day, what's this world coming to where now I'm the one who defends that blue haired mexican. Jellal's such a scrub lolback when Neinhart one shot was impressive until Natsu casually punched him![]()
hey, he will prove you wrong now... and @JkoHa, I gave Jellal fans so much shit for that back in the day, what's this world coming to where now I'm the one who defend that blue haired mexican. Jellal's such a scrub lol



He better, then I can go back to hating him. Right now, all i can do is feel sorry for him
The thing is......back in the days, there was a real case for Jellal to be made. And I'm saying this as a Laxus fan lol.The PL discussion will get interesting again now that Jellals getting an actual fight. I remember the old days when Jellal>Laxus was the more common belief. now we're not even sure he's Mira tier![]()
. I almost feel bad, kinda rooting for the guy now lol.
Technically, in the manga, laxus said he cant put erza down without red lightening modeWithout buffs, she can’t take regular Lightning Dragon Laxus
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That’s an incorrect interpretation of what was said though, so what’s logical about it? I mean, again the crux of our conversation is over emphasizing 1 statement and taking it out of context, while we ignore everything else said during the fight. I’m amazed how much time you spend commenting about Laxus telling Erza she has no chance against him trying to hold back. While ignoring a speech about how wrong Erza, and by extension all of you, was about the gap in their respective power. Erza cannot keep up with Laxus, as she stated in that overlong speech she gave. Let’s focus on what’s important, not Erza’s cockiness and mistake at the start, but the lesson learned by the end.
1) Laxus didn’t receive any boosts. Let’s be clear with our vernacular, his attack power went up because of his Berserker nature for RLDM, but that’s an internal ability. Now an outside help or boost.
2) Yes, because it doesn’t look like they survived the retaliation blast from Laxus. Much like none of her swords survived his final attack. Which only goes to further make a point about her biggest blow in the entire battle being reliant on outside help. She doesn’t get another solid hit like that in.
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I would agree with natsu being mary sueNot true man. Laxus is strong, that's it. But he doesn't defeat overpowered opponents, he defeats only those who are in his league and below. Hades beat Laxus fair and square, with an attack weaker than what Makarov tanked, this was after he turned good, so yea he has lost after he turned god. He didn't get BS to defeat someone out of his league.
In fact, out of everything Laxus has ever done in the series, the only bullshit or asspull, is him pulling out Red Lightning against Wahl. Everything else was fair.
Erza, Wendy, Natsu = Mary Sue
Erza had all her bones (except those in one of her arm?) broken, and cut a damn meteor; and proceeded to one shot dragon Eileen. Erza won against Kyouka for no logical reason than 'she's Erza'. She dispelled historia by just glaring at them. She literally can't die, no matter what you do to her.
Wendy, I'm tired of explaining at this point lmao.
Natsu defeated an immortal with infinite magic power by 'savage flames', ate God flames inspite of it being established earlier that he can't. Healed through utter BS, a lethal hole in his body, against Animus from 'Lucy's tears'. The guy, like Erza, literally can't die no matter what you do to him.
IMO The best case you can make, for Laxus being a mary sue, is his illogical, exponential growth in 1 year timeskip between x791 and x792. But that applies to every relevant good character.
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2:0 in first chapter
7:2 or 7:3 in second (unless you count 6 slashes together like @Jko did, in which case 7:8 or 7:9 :P). But if we count instances of attacks, then 7:2 or 7:3
uncountable in final chapter, they gave upon defence/dodge and went for all out attack