Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[GL_Nova]

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Did laxus attack hurt erza? Or requip completely negated his attack?

Um, i dont think hades statement is cannon. Atleast i dont remember it in the manga. All i remember laxus wailing on hades, and ones hades started to fight, laxus pretty much falls.

Ok

That team had more fights than gildarts, and gildarts couldnt even stand. So its not a good comparison. Just like your position in laxus vs phantom thread. Laxus lost to natsu because of wasted magic power

Erm not exactly.
Minerva put kagura well above laxus and erza. She was in the list of people (along with jura) ogra and others werent supposed to approach because they will just lose members.
Jura put Minerva pretty far above too. I dont have the official translation, but after seeing that god war spell he was suprised that someone this strong was walking around.

Before the battle the hype was
Jura > mira + erza
And
Kagura > erza
Minerva > erza

And only reason erza was really injured in that fight was because she was saving kagura from that rock.

1) All of his landed attacks hurt Erza. It didn’t put her down, but it certainly woke her up.

2) why not? Everything else has been proven cannon. Why would this statement be the exception ?

3) I asked this before, please provide where anybody states that Minerva or Kagura is superior to Laxus? Anyone who even insinuates it. Cause the only folks we see Jura acknowledge are Laxus, Orga, and arguably Cana.

 

[sharkai]

1) All of his landed attacks hurt Erza. It didn’t put her down, but it certainly woke her up.

2) why not? Everything else has been proven cannon. Why would this statement be the exception ?

3) I asked this before, please provide where anybody states that Minerva or Kagura is superior to Laxus? Anyone who even insinuates it. Cause the only folks we see Jura acknowledge are Laxus, Orga, and arguably Cana.

1) wrong fight man, we are talking about ff arc. laxus only electrocuted erza ones. nothing came of it. @MUIMadara only said that erza didnt block laxus attack or something along those lines
2) because its not in the manga (to my knowledge). to understand fairy tail, is watching anime a must?
3) minerva made a list of people who sabertooth werent suppose to approach. her reasoning was that, they will just lose members. that list was kagura and jura. laxus wasnt there.
after minerva did her her god war spell which kagura endured. jura commented (again i dont have the official translation) that someone this cabaple was walking around. remember this jura has already seen orga strongest move and has seen laxus do maybe something (stuck in illusion)? i think jura didnt come across laxus and orga at the time (gmg last test)

 

[Ramen]

1) wrong fight man, we are talking about ff arc. laxus only electrocuted erza ones. nothing came of it. @MUIMadara only said that erza didnt block laxus attack or something along those lines
2) because its not in the manga (to my knowledge). to understand fairy tail, is watching anime a must?
3) minerva made a list of people who sabertooth werent suppose to approach. her reasoning was that, they will just lose members. that list was kagura and jura. laxus wasnt there.
after minerva did her her god war spell which kagura endured. jura commented (again i dont have the official translation) that someone this cabaple was walking around. remember this jura has already seen orga strongest move and has seen laxus do maybe something (stuck in illusion)? i think jura didnt come across laxus and orga at the time (gmg last test)

Which he didn't. Her switching armors is not blocking an attack.

 

[sharkai]

Yeah, those are some good examples of PoF, like I said, it happens too. But more often than not, it fails and an outside power up is needed

Sure, I didn't say PoF doesn't make you stronger(mostly)

sorry to butt in, just wanted to say against hades, external power was the one that failed. i guess because of that heart. the last attack against hades was friendship theme. remember natsu falling and lucy and wendy grabbing him to attack hades

same for zero, genesis zero did df natsu in. than igneel came

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Which he didn't. Her switching armors is not blocking an attack.

how would you block lightning that engulfs your entire body

at this point, i think you are just beating me with terminologies

 

[Ramen]

how would you block lightning that engulfs your entire body

at this point, i think you are just beating me with terminologies

The attack hit her but had minimal damage because she switched fast enough. When Laxus attacked her she was wearing her flame empress.

Laxus casually blocked her attack with one hand. Show me Erza doing something similar.

 

[sharkai]

The attack hit her but had minimal damage because she switched fast enough. When Laxus attacked her she was wearing her flame empress.

Laxus casually blocked her attack with one hand. Show me Erza doing something similar.

laxus attacked her with magical attack. the attack had no effect. this what i call blocking. i am sorry, i cant find even aconolgia just grabbing lightning.

normally people do block other attacks with one hand. it was also one handed attack

 

[Ramen]

laxus attacked her with magical attack. the attack had no effect. this what i call blocking. i am sorry, i cant find even aconolgia just grabbing lightning.

Ok you can call that blocking but that is not what blocking is.

normally people do block other attacks with one hand. it was also one handed attack

Ok, can you show me Erza doing something like this to Laxus?

 

[sharkai]

Ok you can call that blocking but that is not what blocking is.



Ok, can you show me Erza doing something like this to Laxus?

what would you call it? tanking?

not from ff arc. they had a short skirmish then, laxus blocked erza stuffs, erza blocked laxus stuff.
that is all there was.
do you think a normal laxus lightning punch would be far above erza sword capabilities? (even natsu face blocked those punches )

 

[Ramen]

what would you call it? tanking?

not from ff arc. they had a short skirmish then, laxus blocked erza stuffs, erza blocked laxus stuff.
that is all there was.
do you think a normal laxus lightning punch would be far above erza sword capabilities? (even natsu face blocked those punches )

She tanked it when she switched. She obviously felt the need to switch otherwise she wouldn't have done it.

You think Erza blocked his stuff but you until now have failed to show anything. Your definition of blocking it is (according to the English language) wrong.

 

[sharkai]

She tanked it when she switched. She obviously felt the need to switch otherwise she wouldn't have done it.

You think Erza blocked his stuff but you until now have failed to show anything. Your definition of blocking it is (according to the English language) wrong.

you do realize that tanking is worst right?
you block something if that attack is gonna hurt you, like laxus did. you tank something because you know its far below your level.

you can say whatever. point was laxus attack did nothing to erza, and no she did not dodge it.
call it blocked it, negated it or tanked it is up to you. point is, at the end, laxus attack did nothing to her. erza can handle laxus attacks, just like laxus can handle erza attacks.

 

[Ramen]

you do realize that tanking is worst right?
you block something if that attack is gonna hurt you, like laxus did. you tank something because you know its far below your level.

you can say whatever. point was laxus attack did nothing to erza, and no she did not dodge it.
call it blocked it, negated it or tanked it is up to you. point is, at the end, laxus attack did nothing to her

It was a simple lightning attack that he didn't even take off his jacket for. Let her tank it. She's not tanking a halberd or roar.

Ok, I will use facts and you can use whatever you like. You wanna make up some definition go ahead. I can't wait to learn Sharkaian English in my classes.

Laxus took on Mystogan and then stomped Natsu/Gajeel without breaking a sweat.

Laxus > Erza

Done.

 

[sharkai]

It was a simple lightning attack that he didn't even take off his jacket for. Let her tank it. She's not tanking a halberd or roar.

Ok, I will use facts and you can use whatever you like. You wanna make up some definition go ahead. I can't wait to learn Sharkaian English in my classes.

Laxus took on Mystogan and then stomped Natsu/Gajeel without breaking a sweat.

Laxus > Erza

Done.

actually my point would have supported your conclusion. dont know why you are so pissed about it
as far i go, erza couldnt even tank simple lightening and had to block/negate it. you think she tanked it, not me

erm wrong, laxus wasnt in such a good state before and after stomping natsu/gajeel. he was all scratched up from their roars

 

[Ramen]

actually my point would have supported your conclusion. dont know why you are so pissed about it
as far i go, erza couldnt even tank simple lightening and had to block/negate it. you think she tanked it, not me

erm wrong, laxus wasnt in such a good state before and after stomping natsu/gajeel. he was all scratched up from their roars

What? He literally laughed at them when they hit him. It didn't faze him at all.

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dont know why you are so pissed about it

I'm not but I find it funny you wanna play the word game to support your point.

 

[sharkai]

What? He literally laughed at them when they hit him. It didn't faze him at all.

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I'm not but I find it funny you wanna play the word game to support your point.

he had number of scratches on him. so he did break a sweat.

what is my point? its simple laxus can handle erza hits, erza can handle laxus hits.
you are the one who thinks erza did not block the attack, i mean the attack had no effect, so what am i supposed say here. you are somehow trying to saying blocking one handed strike with one hand is somehow more impressive than somehow handling lightning that freakingly covering all your body, without any effect.

 

[Seven777]

sorry to butt in, just wanted to say against hades, external power was the one that failed. i guess because of that heart. the last attack against hades was friendship theme. remember natsu falling and lucy and wendy grabbing him to attack hades

same for zero, genesis zero did df natsu in. than igneel came

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how would you block lightning that engulfs your entire body

at this point, i think you are just beating me with terminologies

Was it though? Tenrou tree granting power to the entirety of team fairy tail is what gave them the victory, not to mention team exceed. Hades was a double whammy.

PoF can come in as well as other powerups, but the fact that those other power ups are necessary just shows how unreliable PoF is.

 

[Biri Biri]

it be like this yo. who else guilty?

 

[grey matter]

Against Sting and Rogue it was PoF, it was PoF against Zeref, you can make the argument it was PoF against Aldoron, it was PoF (technically) against Laxus. Acno was PoF everywhere.

But you said this:


I mean, this is wrong. We've seen PoF make stronger everytime.

I think what he means is PoF alone is sufficient for the most part. For most fights, a bigger source of boost was needed to even the odds.

Yeah, those are some good examples of PoF, like I said, it happens too. But more often than not, it fails and an outside power up is needed

Sure, I didn't say PoF doesn't make you stronger(mostly)

PoF does make the characters stronger tho. IMO, what it does is, make a high diff loss to an extreme diff win. It doesn't take you out of your tier, but gives you a boost to overcome the odds as long as the difference in power lvls isn't too high
(with exceptions like Natsu vs FH Zeref of course, lol)

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it be like this yo. who else guilty?

I feel like PL discussion is why most of us are here lmao

 

[GL_Nova]

Yeah no. Markarov says who can take him and then says erza might be able to but she was a stone statue. Its your headcannon that marakrov wasnt confidence when he mentioned erza.

I like how you keep bring up hades fight but when talking about laxus losing to natsu, its all plot and mp lose from fl. Lol
Decide already did laxus lose to natsu because he was weak. Or did mp and old battle matter like it mattered against hades

How is Makarov saying she might be able to win having confidence? That sounds like somebody whose trying to figure out their best chance.

1) wrong fight man, we are talking about ff arc. laxus only electrocuted erza ones. nothing came of it. @MUIMadara only said that erza didnt block laxus attack or something along those lines
2) because its not in the manga (to my knowledge). to understand fairy tail, is watching anime a must?
3) minerva made a list of people who sabertooth werent suppose to approach. her reasoning was that, they will just lose members. that list was kagura and jura. laxus wasnt there.
after minerva did her her god war spell which kagura endured. jura commented (again i dont have the official translation) that someone this cabaple was walking around. remember this jura has already seen orga strongest move and has seen laxus do maybe something (stuck in illusion)? i think jura didnt come across laxus and orga at the time (gmg last test)

1) Then I stand corrected. Erza does block Laxus casual lightning blast in her Empress Armor in the anime, so the argument that she’s capable certainly holds water. Though in the manga, she doesn’t really block it.

2) Yeah, there are several things that only happen in the the Anime and are then referenced by the manga. Starry Sky arcs enhancements to the OS is the most obvious example. Though so far all the main media of FT has been directly referenced.

3) Minerva not adding them to the list makes an incredibly weak argument overall. She made a point of dismissing FT the entire arc, so it’s not surprising she wouldn’t add them. An the fact that Jura’s only focus during the big team battle when he could challenge anyone, and we know he’s thrill chasing, went looking for Laxus. Not Minerva.

 

[Ramen]

Though in the manga, she doesn’t really block it.

Manga > anime.

 

[GL_Nova]

Manga > anime.

If there’s a contradiction sure. No such issue exists here.