I’m just saying is unlike the other three it can at least be beaten in a unbs way (sorry I couldn’t think of the right word to say) because all the other three spell you either need to be op, the villain being stupid, or something random happens where it stops their magic. Copy like you said just need to use tools. (This is mostly about if someone else had this magic besides August)
Everyone used to freak out about Makarov's MP back in the days too lol. Mashima keeping up this exponential power scaling kinda makes that pointless. Not saying they are on August level tho, I don't believe that.
August would, since he's immune to magic all together. Laxus will be completely useless in this fight. August should technically be immune to tools as well, since he copied Midnight's powers. But in worst case scenario of CIS, like against Gildarts, it will just be August vs Erza (swords), whom he can low diff.
The thing is, the user of copy can be as OP as you can imagine, depending on whatever spells he previously learned.
How was human Irene = x792 Erza? She low diffed an Erza enchanted by Wendy and was playing around with them. Erza only got a good hit off on her when Irene decided to stand still and tank one of her attacks since she was going to forfeit her body and go to Wendy's. We also found out that Irene had feelings for her so it's likely she wasn't going all out, which is likely since she could've just one shot her with the attack that defeated Nebal by separating his magic. What answer does she have to that? Same goes for Laxus, who's more or less equal to Erza.
Don't talk to GM about Irene. It's the equivalent of talking to me about Gray or Jko about Jellal.
Makarov was stronger than the competition back then, and to be fair... People like Wraith still consider him strong. I just feel if Laxus and Erza had August levels of MP, people would make comments on it all the time.
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I dont agree with Irene having not tried against Erza and Wendy. She just didnt expect Erza to actually be able to cut down her meteor. At best you can argue she jobbed, but the effort to kill Erza was there.
You're right she definitely did try, but she didn't go all out.
Which never made sense to me. He didn’t freak over August power, had no trouble keeping up (even before his daughter got involved), and his first landing attack convinced August to revert to his suicide bomber ace. Laxus has been chasing Gildarts the entire series. Realistically another major power jump from a year of training, should have him sitting pretty solid. His treatment of Kyria supports it. Even if you make the argument it’s only in his amped form.
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Nebal is nowhere close to them power wise. An Erza only needed Wendy to win. You wanna give her a slayer stronger than her?
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Like the entire assembled cast thinking they have no chance against Laxus?
I’m not spinning it. I’m saying it.
And you're still wrong.
Why lol. I agree that dragon Eileen is August tier, just not human Eileen. I think that's a fair take. This is consistent with portrayal, peak of both of them should be comparable based on their portrayal.
I didn't say human Eileen = x792 Erza. Just said overall she's Erza tier. She has MP >> Erza, but Erza is superior in combat speed and attack power. Dragon Eileen obviously >> Erza.
How would they beat August? Laxus will just be a duck against him. It will just become Erza vs August.
With about the same difficulty as they beat his equal, Eileen. Erza has the offense to kill him, with Laxus as support it's pretty much a sure thing. As for specific strategies, Laxus takes August head on and Erza strikes in the openings that he creates, much like Cana and Gildarts did except Erza's attacks aren't a one time thing and Cana+Gildarts<Laxus+Erza.
Alvarez Erza pulls nakama power out of her ass and does the impossible. She would "cut" through his copy magic or some shit.
Do it lol. I'd rather get trolled than debate Omni or Exauce...even when trolling, you did a better job at debating than them.I'll make a 90th CV alt just to troll you again
Ryuo and Raigo are the two biggest wanked feats in OP as of now. 85km long Jaya 
