Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

Ax, of course, DS’s power comes from there respective elements, when has Wendy not been able to use her magic or been bad besides Edolas? She can draw her power when there is no sky, doesn’t make her enchantments or healing air base. Yeah, you probably have all sort of parasites right now. So? I don’t get your point about Shadow since it is a duel wreaking element, not like any other element, even so, if he can eat steel then why can’t he reproduce it prior to Tartaros When Natsu can use other flames when eating them too. He would be affected when he has MS and the Sphere is perfected, last FS lasted for 7 years and it disappears

 

[Seven777]

Nope, Sting’s element is White and Light as stated in his fight with Larcade, light and white are different in the sense of what they do, but Sting stated that both in the sense of consuming and being immune too falls under his jurisdiction, something that Wendy has never been stated to be, air magic is something that can be used with Sky Magic, that is the only element she can consume, her magic is Sky, but her element is air, two different things.

sharkai, Erza didn’t really one shot August level spriggan even with power ups, she simple just couldn’t move when Irene was about to finish her.

Lmao? White and Light? Dragon Slayers have one element, Sting is the white dragon slayer, not the light dragon slayer, he states it outright in that very fight. Similarly, Wendy is the sky dragon slayer, so her element is sky. The very fact that she is called the sky dragon slayer is all the proof I need.

-he has AI which said that it didnt recognize red lightning. my iphone doesnt charge with charger it doesnt like
-weird way to show pissed off character
-white witch wasnt strong enough to stop wendy
-couldnt mishma just create a stronger springgan for him
-nope. it still lightning, which wahl couldnt recognize thus cant convert. there is no rocket science here. his species is weak to lightning, wahl isnt because he converts it. if he cant covert it, he is super weak to it just like his species.

1. nope this is wahl species description in the manga. and how wahl immunity works
2. nope. natsu evaporated infinite magic. that is pof. erza can fight without senses and can one shot august tiers with all her bones broken that is pof
3. lol

-So? No one recognized RL. That's because the port doesn't fit, has nothing to do with your phones recognition. You could also slot Ax's points here.
-Wahl is a weird character
-Yes she was, she simply lost all her power thanks to Selene. It's like me saying Lucy could beat Merc now that he has no magic, a stupid argument.
-He could, but he chose another path, and it made pretty much everyone think Laxus was OP. Mashima has always had trouble writing fights for Laxus.
-Haha, and then it just comes around in a perfect circle. If it's still lightning then Wahl is still immune to it. Wahl said he's immune to lightning not lightning he can recognize. Laxus went beyond that, as stated in the manga. No statement about Wahl being weak, no flashback to Ichiya talking about the Machia race, just narration stating outright that Laxus had risen above Lightning. So yeah, I think that pretty much settles my argument nicely. Laxus is powerful enough to kill a spriggan with one spell according to August and powerful enough to kill a spriggan through his immunity according to narration. Laxus, like he always has been throughout the entire manga, is OP, as you and I both know and have admitted. To the point where Mashima finds it difficult to write him battles.

1. Nowhere in Wahl's species description does it say his converter doesn't work on something he doesn't recognize. You're bullshitting, show a panel of it.
2. And? He has the flames of emotion. Erza didn't oneshot anyone, she lost with help and with advantage. As for PoF, yeah, just like Gray vs Rufus, Natsu vs Jackal or... yes, Erza vs Kyoka. Did you not rate Erza on Kyoka's tier back in the day? I get the feeling that you did, I certainly did, as would most people.

 

[WoWfan]

Yes, as stated here https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628902/4, Wendy‘s element is only air, sky is a region, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628525/10

 

[GL_Nova]

huh even i am not in erza killing acno with all those three advantages, i am just saying it might be possible. so what do you mean, apart from laxus having more mp than the most mp human in fairy tail verse, or laxus causally one shotting them
so what do you mean

The I don’t like it so I ignore it. I believe you. (An the whole, more MP and casual one shot as confirmed by the literal General of Zeref’s forces, not the cocky kid who lost to Elfman)

 

[Axiomus]

maybe but i am telling you that i am ignoring it. for hypothetical scenario we can do that

it was just a butter knife. lucy can most likely can get do that level of attack

what you are making up is eileen vulnerability.

maybe, but i am not interested in acno. i am basically talking about acno tier. and asking if ome has tyhese three advantages over this said acno tier, he or she should be able to one shot him, or do significant damage.

No she can't. Brandish made the knife big. Lucy never shown feats like that. Moreover, like I said, Acno's magic resistance lets him no sell roars from Igneel. Surprise attack or not, magic doesn't work on him. This includes dragon slaying magic. Which means nobody can actually break his scales unless they have physical strength on par with Igneel, and no human mage has that level of physicals.

No Im not. That's also an observation. Irene got oneshotted by an attack from Erza, which means her durability isn't outside the oneshot range of an Erza tier with DS magic.

Right, and we've seen from Aldoron that they don't. Aldoron can tank FDK attacks from Natsu's for a lifetime because of his massive durability. You need attack power that is millions of times stronger than FDK Destruction Fist to deal damage to his dragon body.

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Ax, of course, DS’s power comes from there respective elements, when has Wendy not been able to use her magic or been bad besides Edolas? She can draw her power when there is no sky, doesn’t make her enchantments or healing air base. Yeah, you probably have all sort of parasites right now. So? I don’t get your point about Shadow since it is a duel wreaking element, not like any other element, even so, if he can eat steel then why can’t he reproduce it prior to Tartaros When Natsu can use other flames when eating them too. He would be affected when he has MS and the Sphere is perfected, last FS lasted for 7 years and it disappears

And Wendy and Chelia's element is sky. Says right here that Wendy's magic comes feom the air, which would include her healing and enchantments, and that in polluted air Wendy's magic doesnt work at all. All of Wendy's magic, or at least the ones that she learned from Grandeeney, is air based. Or at least draws its power from the air.

Spoiler

Any predator that can eat a chimp can eat a human.

Gajeel can eat shadow, which contains no iron. Yet you're telling me that he cant eat steel, which is 98% iron. Slayers have never been restricted by their elements in what they can eat.

Acno said that magic didnt effect him even when he was still on the boat. Fairy Sphere would have eventually ran out of power, even if it takes 7 years, and Acno would have been out.

 

[WoWfan]

Their magic is sky, their element is air, as the info card details, it is no different from Gajeel getting stronger with iron, healing does not have air behind it nor does her enchantments, otherwise Chelia would have eaten it or be immune to it unless specific ones can neutralize them when they do. In fact anyone would be healing 24/7, that means Sky Drill is not air then by that logic, yet they would get sick by whatever disease they have. Gajeel eating shadows is not the same as eating iron or whatever, as it is a duel element mode. after 7 years, then FT will have to do it all over again LoL

 

[Axiomus]

Their magic is sky, their element is air, as the info card details, it is no different from Gajeel getting stronger with iron, healing does not have air behind it nor does her enchantments, otherwise Chelia would have eaten it or be immune to it unless specific ones can neutralize them when they do. In fact anyone would be healing 24/7, that means Sky Drill is not air then by that logic, yet they would get sick by whatever disease they have. Gajeel eating shadows is not the same as eating iron or whatever, as it is a duel element mode. after 7 years, then FT will have to do it all over again LoL

Their magic is sky. Their element is sky. Sky magic draws it's power from the air. That's what the guild card says. Wendy's healing and enchantments are magic that draws it's power from the air. Chelia isn't immune to sky magic. She's resistant. Wendy cut her up with wind. You need to know sky magic in order to draw power from the air to heal or cast enchantments. Not everyone that breathes air uses sky magic.

You do realize steel is more similar to iron than shadows are, right? Again, steel is 98% iron. Shadow is 0% iron. You don't actually have a response to this, except repeating the fact that "it's dual element mode" as if that explains anything. Slayers have never been restricted by their elements in what they can eat. They can absorb other types of magic. What a slayer can or cannot eat has nothing to do with with what they are resistant to eithe

Maybe, but they'll have to round up the whole continent. The spell is simply not strong enough if only Fairy Tail members are casting it. Acnologia just needs to sniffs at their general direction before the get the spell up, and roar. Quite frankly, the only reason Acnologia didn't murder everyone is because he had to split his spirit from his body. His dragon body was just mindlessly spamming attacks. If he had the sense to aim at Fairy Tail's kumbaya circle instead of a bunch of ships, everyone would have died before they got ready.

 

[WoWfan]

their magic is sky, but their element is air, sky is a region, so? Gajeel draws his power from iron, Chelia is immune to air magic, same with Wendy, the former was cut by air combined with enchantment, and yet we see her use healing and support when the air is polluted too so it is air magic she can’t use, not her other spells. Now how you are using it. You do realize the comparison is not the same right? Since one gives duel element and the other doesn’t just as Lighting is not fire and yet Natsu can eat it for duel element, and Steel maybe similar to iron but the properties are different to not be called as such. You don’t even have a proper comparison And that’s fine, just don’t go repeating yourself, they are in the sense that it is bad for them despite what they do, it actually does unless said element is special or supported by other magics. They don’t need the whole continent if they have full power FT wizards for the spell, it is when completed even back on Tenrou, they were fast enough to form a spell when he was using his breath attack, his dragon body had instinct which knew where danger was and what to do despite not having it’s intelligence, it is because motion sickness was the bigger danger than FS since if he was not afflicted he would be fine.

 

[Seven777]

Yes, as stated here https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628902/4, Wendy‘s element is only air, sky is a region, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628525/10

Huh, that page, yeah, that does prove my point nicely. White is Sting's element despite being just a color, light falls under that too. Oh and look, I have a page to match it too here

Spoiler

https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628549/13

Stated clear as day, she is a sky dragon slayer, and what she eats is sky, haha, there's no two ways about it, this is canon to the manga.

As for the second page, it's a nice little addition to the page I posted just now, oh and look at the page just before that. Sky Dragon Slayer, stated plain as day. Sky being a region doesn't prevent it from being her element, just like shadow simply being a completely intangible result of an object coming between light rays doesn't stop it from being an element. Same with white being merely a color.

 

[WoWfan]

Huh, that page, yeah, that does prove my point nicely. White is Sting's element despite being just a color, light falls under that too. Oh and look, I have a page to match it too here

Spoiler

https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628549/13

Stated clear as day, she is a sky dragon slayer, and what she eats is sky, haha, there's no two ways about it, this is canon to the manga.

As for the second page, it's a nice little addition to the page I posted just now, oh and look at the page just before that. Sky Dragon Slayer, stated plain as day. Sky being a region doesn't prevent it from being her element, just like shadow simply being a completely intangible result of an object coming between light rays doesn't stop it from being an element. Same with white being merely a color.

White has nothing to do with color like Sting eating a grey arrow (anime usage) as it is Holy based https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628850/17 & https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628686/16, light is Not just white you know, where is it stated to be color? It proves my point that White just like Sky is just a fancy name, where it‘s real element is something else. despite the fact that she is inside a room where there are no Sky? Here is what proves you wrong as they said air, sky is just something poetic in that context, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628679/12 again, sky is a group of spells that includes air magic, yes it does where she is locates there is no sky, but air itself, Dragon Slayers can make elements tangible to them so shadows not an issue, white is sacred properties, not color.

 

[Axiomus]

their magic is sky, but their element is air, sky is a region, so? Gajeel draws his power from iron, Chelia is immune to air magic, same with Wendy, the former was cut by air combined with enchantment, and yet we see her use healing and support when the air is polluted too so it is air magic she can’t use, not her other spells. Now how you are using it. You do realize the comparison is not the same right? Since one gives duel element and the other doesn’t just as Lighting is not fire and yet Natsu can eat it for duel element, and Steel maybe similar to iron but the properties are different to not be called as such. You don’t even have a proper comparison And that’s fine, just don’t go repeating yourself, they are in the sense that it is bad for them despite what they do, it actually does unless said element is special or supported by other magics. They don’t need the whole continent if they have full power FT wizards for the spell, it is when completed even back on Tenrou, they were fast enough to form a spell when he was using his breath attack, his dragon body had instinct which knew where danger was and what to do despite not having it’s intelligence, it is because motion sickness was the bigger danger than FS since if he was not afflicted he would be fine.

Their magic is Sky magic, and that's also their element. Sky magic gets its power from the air. We are told Wendy gets stronger when the air quality is good, and can't when the air quality is too polluted. We just havent seen Wendy in an environment that bad yet.

Saying that shadows gives dual element doesn't help your point. 'Dual elements' is a fan made term that isn't actually found anywhere in the manga. It's just what we fans use to describe a dragon slayer that absorbed the powers of a second element. With God Serena being able to use 8 elements and 7DS Natsu having 7, the term 'dual elements' is now obsolete since we know dragon slayers can have more than 2 elements. The fact that LFD, ISD, and WSD exists at all proves that dragon slayers are not limited by their elements in what they can eat. Steel doesn't add an additional elements to Gajeel's arsenal, because steel is just an alloy of iron. It's 98% iron. When Gajeel eats steel, he just absorbs the iron inside it for power.

Fairy Tail was more numerous and stronger in Hargeon than they were on Tenrou. Not only that, they had greater stronger POF due to the dragon slayers connecting hearts with their loved ones. It just wasn't enough to overcome Acno's immunity to magic. Motion sickness didnt effect Acno's immunity to magic. He said that magic didnt work on him even when he was still on the boat and motion sick. Besides, if motion sickness is what allows Fairy Sphere to take effect, then Fairy Sphere is even more useless. Fairy Sphere puts everything inside in suspended animation. It'll get rid of any motion sickness by stopping everything's motion. As soon as the spell completely stops everything, Acno's immunity to magic would just kick in and he'll smash his way out like he did to the rift of time. No, the linking of the entire continent was absolutely necessary for Acnologia to go down.

White has nothing to do with color like Sting eating a grey arrow (anime usage) as it is Holy based https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628850/17 & https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628686/16, light is Not just white you know, where is it stated to be color? It proves my point that White just like Sky is just a fancy name, where it‘s real element is something else. despite the fact that she is inside a room where there are no Sky? Here is what proves you wrong as they said air, sky is just something poetic in that context, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628679/12 again, sky is a group of spells that includes air magic, yes it does where she is locates there is no sky, but air itself, Dragon Slayers can make elements tangible to them so shadows not an issue, white is sacred properties, not color.

White and Sky are not fancy names. They are types of magic. Sky magic is a specific type of air magic that draws power from the air to use for healing and enchantments. White Magic is any magic involving anything white, including but not exclusive to light. Sting can eat any magic that counts as white magic because he's the white dragon slayer. He is not limited to light. Actually, Sting is not even just limited to just white magic. He, like Gajeel, can eat shadows. Because again, dragon slayers are truly not limited by their elements in what they can eat. They can eat any magic if they really wanted to. It's just a matter of will.

But all this is irrelevant, because Chelia was cut by Wendy's winds. She wasn't cut by Wendy's enchantments. She was cut by sky dragon's claw and Wendy's secret art. The enchantments Wendy casted earlier just makes her body move faster, and her attacks hit harder. They don't stop Wendy's wind from being wind. We shouldn't even be entertaining the idea that enchanting an attack negates a slayer's resistance to their own element, or their ability to eat it. It doesn't.

 

[WoWfan]

Their magic is sky in the sense that it is a group of magics, their element is air, we have in bad air conditions and she still used her enchantments regardless. It does since, they made it very specific as a fusion. God Serena does not count because he has 8 separate dragon slayer lacrima, and Natsu 7 Flames attack is a special enchantment which indirectly changes the elements into flame, not duel element. Gajeel hasn't shown to eat any steel at all and it hurt by it along with other magic until Tartaros where he actually utilize carbon to become steel. FT have been through nonstop constant battle and stated to have not enough power, they have plenty of time to regain their strength, DS were separated in a different dimension, they were not part of the spell. MS did affect their immunity, he said that when FS was incomplete and when he was MS so he was being cocky based on ignorance, not really, it suspends them temporally and since he is not immune with MS, then he will get affected. White and Sky are fancy names, SM uses air magic, healing magic and enchantments, three distinct arts. White Magic is holy magic, light explicitly stated to be eatable by Sting, so anything holy and light is within his territory, Gajeel eating shadows is Dual Element mode achievement, not the same, even when they eat other elements, they are either duds or duel element explicitly stated to be part of their element. Chelia was cut by enchantment wind, same with Secret Arts which has enchantment part of it, it just adds a different magic to it. it does as ISD proved against Rogue

 

[Seven777]

White has nothing to do with color like Sting eating a grey arrow (anime usage) as it is Holy based https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628850/17 & https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628686/16, light is Not just white you know, where is it stated to be color? It proves my point that White just like Sky is just a fancy name, where it‘s real element is something else. despite the fact that she is inside a room where there are no Sky? Here is what proves you wrong as they said air, sky is just something poetic in that context, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628679/12 again, sky is a group of spells that includes air magic, yes it does where she is locates there is no sky, but air itself, Dragon Slayers can make elements tangible to them so shadows not an issue, white is sacred properties, not color.

He ate a white arrow and it happens in the manga, it has everything to do with color. Anything White Sting can eat, because he's the White Dragon Slayer.

Oh... and you know what the fact that she's in a room with no sky means.... right? It means to Mashima, Sky magic and air magic are the same thing... and that means all her sky enchantments, Arms, Vernier, etc.... they're all air magic lmao. 'Fraid this is it for you my friend, you're done. Wendy said it outright, it's Sky power, no poetry, no speech, just "I need more sky power" because she's the Sky dragon slayer lmao. Chelia was hurt by her element, just like Acno was hurt by his element, it's perfectly obvious.

 

[Axiomus]

Sky magic is a type of magic in and of itself. It's magic that draws power from the air to do stuff, including heal and enchant. It's specifically stated that Wendy cannot magic at all if the air is too polluted. If Wendy can still use enchant, that means the air hasn't been polluted enough. Show me an example of when Wendy can use enchant but can't use her wind attacks.

You're missing the point. "Dual element" isn't a real term that's actually found anywhere in the manga. It's a term made-up by fans. Nobody in the manga has ever uttered the term "dual elements". It's just a phrase we use to describe a dragon slayer that has managed to eat a different element than their original. The very existence of LFD, ISD, and WSD proves that dragon slayers aren't limited to their original element in what they can eat.

For the last time, steel is an alloy of iron. It is a mechanical mixture. The iron and carbon atoms in steel are still separate. It's not like water, where the hydrogen and oxygen atoms form chemical bonds to make a molecule. Steel is a chunk of iron with carbon particles in it. But whatever. Gajeel can eat shadow, which has absolutely nothing to do with iron. Iron has literally everything to do with steel, and Gajeel can absorb carbon particles in his skin to make steel himself. Doesn't even have to eat it. There's absolute no reason why Gajeel can't eat steel.

Acnologia saying that magic doesn't work on him when he's on a boat flat out disproves your claim that motion sickness negates his immunity to magic. Also like I said, Fairy Sphere is useless if motion sickness is required to negate Acnologia's immunity to magic....Because Fairy Sphere gets rid of motion sickness by putting everything in suspended animation. Acnologia needs to feel a rocking sensation for motion sickness to kick in, and that simply can't happen if FS stops all movement.

 

[WoWfan]

Sky is a collection of other magics, Enough? it never said too polluted, just polluted in generalizing sense, It either is or isn’t especially when you are surrounded by it, unless it stated to be too much or how big or if It fills the entirety of said volume of air, that is an assumption you make. In an underground battle with Cosmos. Real or not, it is a mode of itself, it doesn’t matter which is something they use in conjoined unison with their original one, it shows that only a certain element can be uses together with your own. and since it is a mixture, it becomes something else apart from the natural state of iron, and an alloy which is called Steel, Gajeel eating shadows doesn’t prove anything since it gives him a duel element mode, not literally if it is not all iron and something else, which proves my point further Since he was never shown to eat it. Acno was basically being arrogance, how would he know when a magic doesn’t work when t wasn’t complete Even when he is MS? Phantom lord disproves it as Natsu was going to get hit by fire magic. Wrong, it affects time so being suspended in time would not negate MS as he would still be like that inside the sphere

He ate a white arrow and it happens in the manga, it has everything to do with color. Anything White Sting can eat, because he's the White Dragon Slayer.

Oh... and you know what the fact that she's in a room with no sky means.... right? It means to Mashima, Sky magic and air magic are the same thing... and that means all her sky enchantments, Arms, Vernier, etc.... they're all air magic lmao. 'Fraid this is it for you my friend, you're done. Wendy said it outright, it's Sky power, no poetry, no speech, just "I need more sky power" because she's the Sky dragon slayer lmao. Chelia was hurt by her element, just like Acno was hurt by his element, it's perfectly obvious.

Grey arrow and his roar showed a different color (white), and technically, white is not a color, it is a shade, even the anime shows the difference, Arrows have a holy significance to them so he can eat it. It does not as air and sky are two different things, since it showed that in toxic areas that her air attacks did not work and yet her enchantments did, so they are not air magic. Again Sky is poetic unless you can show me she eats the sky itself, I don’t think so. Chelia was hurt by enchantment, not wind which the former was attached to. Acno was not hurt by his own element unless he is MS.

 

[sharkai]

No she can't. Brandish made the knife big. Lucy never shown feats like that. Moreover, like I said, Acno's magic resistance lets him no sell roars from Igneel. Surprise attack or not, magic doesn't work on him. This includes dragon slaying magic. Which means nobody can actually break his scales unless they have physical strength on par with Igneel, and no human mage has that level of physicals.

No Im not. That's also an observation. Irene got oneshotted by an attack from Erza, which means her durability isn't outside the oneshot range of an Erza tier with DS magic.

Right, and we've seen from Aldoron that they don't. Aldoron can tank FDK attacks from Natsu's for a lifetime because of his massive durability. You need attack power that is millions of times stronger than FDK Destruction Fist to deal damage to his dragon body.

huh you think making a knife bigger is above any magical attack lucy can do?
that is just magical advantage on top of top tier stats. i am talking only of top tier stats

no its not. otherwise you will say natsu tier, that is gajeel tier can kill fh zeref. so obviously erza and gildarts are doing it too.


and yet rot aconologia evaporated from only one 7 ds punc from natsu

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The I don’t like it so I ignore it. I believe you. (An the whole, more MP and casual one shot as confirmed by the literal General of Zeref’s forces, not the cocky kid who lost to Elfman)

its a way to debate. i already told them my weak point.
i will not fight against the said point. because that would be my point vs the manga.

of course you or people like you will never think that your argument might be wrong, especially for an irrelevant character like laxus

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-So? No one recognized RL. That's because the port doesn't fit, has nothing to do with your phones recognition. You could also slot Ax's points here.

nope. it fits. than the damn iphone tell me it cant recognize the charger and then wont charge. its an old iphone

-Yes she was, she simply lost all her power thanks to Selene. It's like me saying Lucy could beat Merc now that he has no magic, a stupid argument.

didnt wendy do that? selene came after wendy thing

-He could, but he chose another path, and it made pretty much everyone think Laxus was OP. Mashima has always had trouble writing fights for Laxus.

no it didnt. because pof was their. op characters dont need pof. then wahl went retarded. i fail to see how these things make laxus op.

-Haha, and then it just comes around in a perfect circle. If it's still lightning then Wahl is still immune to it. Wahl said he's immune to lightning not lightning he can recognize. Laxus went beyond that, as stated in the manga. No statement about Wahl being weak, no flashback to Ichiya talking about the Machia race, just narration stating outright that Laxus had risen above Lightning. So yeah, I think that pretty much settles my argument nicely. Laxus is powerful enough to kill a spriggan with one spell according to August and powerful enough to kill a spriggan through his immunity according to narration. Laxus, like he always has been throughout the entire manga, is OP, as you and I both know and have admitted. To the point where Mashima finds it difficult to write him battles.

ah so that is how we find weakness huh.
then how did you figure out weakness of dues sema, weakness of eileen dragon form

1. Nowhere in Wahl's species description does it say his converter doesn't work on something he doesn't recognize. You're bullshitting, show a panel of it.

because that is a standard way machines work

2. And? He has the flames of emotion. Erza didn't oneshot anyone, she lost with help and with advantage. As for PoF, yeah, just like Gray vs Rufus, Natsu vs Jackal or... yes, Erza vs Kyoka. Did you not rate Erza on Kyoka's tier back in the day? I get the feeling that you did, I certainly did, as would most people.

not with her hax. for me hax is plot based. so technically if brandish works on acnologia, she can easily one shot him

 

[GL_Nova]

huh you think making a knife bigger is above any magical attack lucy can do?
that is just magical advantage on top of top tier stats. i am talking only of top tier stats

no its not. otherwise you will say natsu tier, that is gajeel tier can kill fh zeref. so obviously erza and gildarts are doing it too.


and yet rot aconologia evaporated from only one 7 ds punc from natsu

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its a way to debate. i already told them my weak point.
i will not fight against the said point. because that would be my point vs the manga.

of course you or people like you will never think that your argument might be wrong, especially for an irrelevant character like laxus

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nope. it fits. than the damn iphone tell me it cant recognize the charger and then wont charge. its an old iphone


didnt wendy do that? selene came after wendy thing



no it didnt. because pof was their. op characters dont need pof. then wahl went retarded. i fail to see how these things make laxus op.



ah so that is how we find weakness huh.
then how did you figure out weakness of dues sema, weakness of eileen dragon form



because that is a standard way machines work


not with her hax. for me hax is plot based. so technically if brandish works on acnologia, she can easily one shot him

Why you mad? All I said was I believe you, and left the argument at that. If you wanna ignore it, ain’t no point in arguing.

An you right. I don’t believe my argument is wrong, because I base it on what happened in the manga and on supporting evidence in the other media Mashima has sanctioned in regards to Laxus. An since I don’t put my own headcannon above the source material it tends to work in my favor. Hence the large group of people who tend to agree with me and argue in my favor. Like taking the statements and titles about how powerful the Spriggan are meant to be into account instead of just saying, oh she only even messed with an Island so she can’t be above that tier when her name is Country Demolisher. That or believing that Jellal has been one of the strongest mages in his generation throughout the series, or that Erza was intended to have reached the same tier as Laxus and Gildarts during the Alvarez arc, even if I have both still above her in power, like her reaction to Laxus’ attack power supports. That or Mashima stating several times over the years that Gildarts and Laxus are tough to do fights for because of how strong they are.

 

[Seven777]

Grey arrow and his roar showed a different color (white), and technically, white is not a color, it is a shade, even the anime shows the difference, Arrows have a holy significance to them so he can eat it. It does not as air and sky are two different things, since it showed that in toxic areas that her air attacks did not work and yet her enchantments did, so they are not air magic. Again Sky is poetic unless you can show me she eats the sky itself, I don’t think so. Chelia was hurt by enchantment, not wind which the former was attached to. Acno was not hurt by his own element unless he is MS.

White is a shade of gray I believe. That said, no, check the manga, the arrow is white.
Arrows have a holy significance to them lmao? Where exactly did you pull that from?
Wendy's magic has always worked everywhere she's tried it.
How is it poetic? Wendy said I need more sky power while eating her element, it's about as straightforward as it gets. She's the sky dragon slayer, this is natural.
Wendy's enchantments and healing are sky magic. Acno literally died to his own element.

nope. it fits. than the damn iphone tell me it cant recognize the charger and then wont charge. its an old iphone


didnt wendy do that? selene came after wendy thing



no it didnt. because pof was their. op characters dont need pof. then wahl went retarded. i fail to see how these things make laxus op.



ah so that is how we find weakness huh.
then how did you figure out weakness of dues sema, weakness of eileen dragon form



because that is a standard way machines work


not with her hax. for me hax is plot based. so technically if brandish works on acnologia, she can easily one shot him

-Doesnt mean the port is compatible, or that its a software problem rather than a hardware one. Not that it matters, since it has nothing to do with Wahl.
-No.
-Uh... yes it did? After the fight pretty much everyone, including you, thought he was either stupidly powerful, or that spriggans were stupidly weak.
-She's a dragon, the magic is called Dragon Slaying magic. As for Deus Sema, it has no weakness, it doesnt take extra damage from swords. Laxus would break it just as easily

1. That's not a panel, it's you coming up with a random theory based on real world implications. If we're going real world, machines aren't more vulnerable to lightning than humans are. Hit a car with lightning it's probably going to be fine.
2. Everything is plot based.

 

[WoWfan]

White is basically the combination of all colors, how do you know the arrow was white when it doesn’t show any color? using the anime logic, it is grey. Research, in one theological study, arrows usually are represented by Cupid for love and desire. Her air magic did not work in polluted air areas, yet her enchantments did, so that is a difference between the two, her element is air as stated multiple times, sky is definitely poetic especially when she is influenced by others like Jellal. Her enchantments and healing are definitely not air magic just part of sky magic, he died when he was MS.

 

[Axiomus]

huh you think making a knife bigger is above any magical attack lucy can do?
that is just magical advantage on top of top tier stats. i am talking only of top tier stats

no its not. otherwise you will say natsu tier, that is gajeel tier can kill fh zeref. so obviously erza and gildarts are doing it too.


and yet rot aconologia evaporated from only one 7 ds punc from natsu

You're saying that Brandish had a butter knife, which is silly. She had a sharp knife that she used her magic to enlarge a big sword. Lucy doesn't have a single spell that can deal the type of damage Brandish dealt to August. Even if she did, it won't kill August. Brandish didn't fail to kill August because of plot, but because August simply tanked the stab.

Yeah, it is. Gajeel isn't Natsu tier. Gajeel is slightly weaker than LFD Natsu. Natsu beat FH Zeref with FDK, and he didn't kill Zeref. It took Igneel's power to kill Zeref, and Gajeel is nowhere near Natsu with Igneel's power.

Acnologia couldn't move because of Fairy Sphere. He was also limited to his human form, which is far weaker than his dragon form.

Sky is a collection of other magics, Enough? it never said too polluted, just polluted in generalizing sense, It either is or isn’t especially when you are surrounded by it, unless it stated to be too much or how big or if It fills the entirety of said volume of air, that is an assumption you make. In an underground battle with Cosmos. Real or not, it is a mode of itself, it doesn’t matter which is something they use in conjoined unison with their original one, it shows that only a certain element can be uses together with your own. and since it is a mixture, it becomes something else apart from the natural state of iron, and an alloy which is called Steel, Gajeel eating shadows doesn’t prove anything since it gives him a duel element mode, not literally if it is not all iron and something else, which proves my point further Since he was never shown to eat it. Acno was basically being arrogance, how would he know when a magic doesn’t work when t wasn’t complete Even when he is MS? Phantom lord disproves it as Natsu was going to get hit by fire magic. Wrong, it affects time so being suspended in time would not negate MS as he would still be like that inside the sphere

No. Sky is a type of magic. It's magic that draws power from the air, which it can use for enchantment and healing. Grandeeney is the sky dragon. She's not an air dragon that learned how to cast enchantments and heal. She was born a sky-dragon, and her natural attribute is sky. Wendy's enchantments and healing all come from her sky dragon slaying magic. Wendy is changing the constitution of her body into that of a sky dragon, and then using the sky dragon's powers. Chelia does the same, except with a sky god.

There are levels of pollution. But whatever, let's say any levels of air pollution can render Wendy's magic useless. Wendy's never actually been in such a environment. Cosmo didn't pollute the air. She used her pollen magic to make Wendy sleepy. Wendy used an enchantment to get rid of the sleepiness, and then used her winds to blow Cosmo's pollen away. Wendy's enchantment didn't clear the pollen. It just undid her sleepiness. If the air was too still polluted for Wendy to use wind, it wouldn't matter if she undid her sleepiness. But we see that after Wendy undid her sleepiness, she's able to use winds to blow away Cosmo's flowers. That tells us Cosmo never polluted the air enough to stop Wendy from using her magic.

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Gajeel eating shadows proves that he can eat magic that are not shadow. If he can do that, there's no logical reason he can't eat steel, which is mostly made out of iron. Gajeel can eat iron and he can eat carbon (anyone can, heck I can eat carbon). There's absolutely no reason Gajeel can't eat a piece of steel.

It goes both ways. How would Totamaru know that fire would work on Natsu when he's motion sick? He's not even a dragon slayer. Difference between Totamaru and Acnologia is that Acnologia is the strongest dragon slayer and wizard in the world, and Totamaru is a nobody. So yeah, I'll take Acno's experience as the strongest dragon slayer over Totamaru's guess. Also, we've even seen Natsu set his own hand on fire without burning himself while motion sick. If Natsu didn't have resistance to fire, he would burn himself.

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Motion sickness was merely a distraction to give Fairy Tail the opportunity to cast Fairy Sphere. They even went over this when they were coming up with the strategy. Motion sickness was just there to make Acnologia "all pukey" for a few seconds, and Lucy was banking on Fairy Sphere to actually work against Acno because he couldn't destroy it before. It's literally spelt out to us in the plot. Lucy was banking on everyone's bonds, not motion sickness.

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