Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[SleipnirX]

I think Erza should definitely be up there with Gildarts Laxus.
Also Erza only used her own powers in that fight.
Lucy is definitely stronger than freed and Wendy power wise anyway.

@bugen The problem people have with enchantments is that it's way too easy and it solves way too many plot problems. Even though it belongs to Erza's MP it's frustrating to think she has an Ice Devil sword when it was unique magic that only belonged to Gray and Silver. At least Natsu can rely on DF or FDK while Gray has no power development.

The result of Erza and Laxus’ fight suggests to me Mashima wanted it to be close but no cigar for Erza. Laxus was still standing at the final bell, Erza was not which means a technical win for Laxus, even if he was also no longer able to fight on. He also came-to quicker and was suffering from whiteout during the battle. Laxus has been a benchmark for Erza right since he was introduced in the fantasia arc, if he wanted to signal she’d finally surpassed him he’d have been more explicit about it, I’m absolutely certain. That’s the reason I think it’s still currently between Gildarts and Laxus. Erza might be in contention, or even explicitly more powerful as the 100 YQ goes on, if she continues to grow. I think she’s certainly narrowed the gap to Laxus since fantasia, to the point she’s now virtually his equal. And that’s not just when the plot calls for her to win a key battle, either.

I interpreted her swords as containing a small cache of Natsu/ Gray’s magic power, much like what Igneel left behind in Natsu in the Alvarez arc. Otherwise I don’t see where Erza was getting magic with Dragonslayer or Demonslayer properties, she doesn’t have it herself. I did think this was a cool tool to have in her repertoire, I hope it will see more use in future battles.

Lucy might have a larger MP reserve than Freed or Wendy (not sure about the latter with her enchanting powers), but actually battling with it I think she’s still at a disadvantage to either. A fresh battle between Freed and Lucy using star dress powers would be a good benchmark for her current strength.

 

[MyaHeart35]

The result of Erza and Laxus’ fight suggests to me Mashima wanted it to be close but no cigar for Erza. Laxus was still standing at the final bell, Erza was not which means a technical win for Laxus, even if he was also no longer able to fight on. He also came-to quicker and was suffering from whiteout during the battle. Laxus has been a benchmark for Erza right since he was introduced in the fantasia arc, if he wanted to signal she’d finally surpassed him he’d have been more explicit about it, I’m absolutely certain. That’s the reason I think it’s still currently between Gildarts and Laxus. Erza might be in contention, or even explicitly more powerful as the 100 YQ goes on, if she continues to grow. I think she’s certainly narrowed the gap to Laxus since fantasia, to the point she’s now virtually his equal. And that’s not just when the plot calls for her to win a key battle, either.

I interpreted her swords as containing a small cache of Natsu/ Gray’s magic power, much like what Igneel left behind in Natsu in the Alvarez arc. Otherwise I don’t see where Erza was getting magic with Dragonslayer or Demonslayer properties, she doesn’t have it herself. I did think this was a cool tool to have in her repertoire, I hope it will see more use in future battles.

Lucy might have a larger MP reserve than Freed or Wendy (not sure about the latter with her enchanting powers), but actually battling with it I think she’s still at a disadvantage to either. A fresh battle between Freed and Lucy using star dress powers would be a good benchmark for her current strength.

Well tbh it seems by statements it's the other way around. Laxus was the one who had to improve a lot to match Erza. Because Erza holded back majority of the fight while laxus was going all close to the beginning. In fact whiteout made laxus stronger than his regular self. And the only reason laxus came quicker was because of the white wizard.
Yes laxus was standing longer but multiple outside sources said it was a tie including laxus.

 

[GL_Nova]

Well tbh it seems by statements it's the other way around. Laxus was the one who had to improve a lot to match Erza. Because Erza holded back majority of the fight while laxus was going all close to the beginning. In fact whiteout made laxus stronger than his regular self. And the only reason laxus came quicker was because of the white wizard.
Yes laxus was standing longer but multiple outside sources said it was a tie including laxus.

Nothing suggests that. Erza admitting she doesn't know how strong Laxus is serves as a greater statement about her sensing abilities than his growth. Literally only Erza thinks they are close. Hence why most of the fandom (her fans excluded) understand the rankings. An it shows on how they try and interpret the fights. Erza used DSSeal, her best attack armor, and a brand new dragon god weapon, but Laxus saying to stop fighting like she's facing a friend somehow means those amps were her holding back. "It wasn't an amp". If I'm fighting zombies and I have my sword blessed by a priest it's an amp. I'm purposefully adding on something that I know zombies are weak too. This is obvious logic, but here we go. Then we get random claims, like w/o made them stronger. Since when? How? What states that, because he has better feats soon as it's gone. Also, where did he say it's a tie?

 

[Darklord#10]

In fact whiteout made laxus stronger than his regular self.

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[MyaHeart35]

Nothing suggests that. Erza admitting she doesn't know how strong Laxus is serves as a greater statement about her sensing abilities than his growth. Literally only Erza thinks they are close. Hence why most of the fandom (her fans excluded) understand the rankings. An it shows on how they try and interpret the fights. Erza used DSSeal, her best attack armor, and a brand new dragon god weapon, but Laxus saying to stop fighting like she's facing a friend somehow means those amps were her holding back. "It wasn't an amp". If I'm fighting zombies and I have my sword blessed by a priest it's an amp. I'm purposefully adding on something that I know zombies are weak too. This is obvious logic, but here we go. Then we get random claims, like w/o made them stronger. Since when? How? What states that, because he has better feats soon as it's gone. Also, where did he say it's a tie?

Erza heaven wheel armor one of her weakest tied with Laxus's strongest.
The fight was a double ko, and multiple outside sources said they were equal.
Canonically Erza was still holding back since she used an attack far stronger than the one laxus tied with.
It was hinted there magic was enhanced.
"You're controlled and still that weak," by Erza. Laxus was also bloodlusted while Erza had morals on. The only reason Erza fell first because she wasted her magic power on those enchantments while still holding back. Laxus got A LOT free hits on her.

Also it's canonically she was stronger than him since they fought 2 opponents on the same level. Erza destroyed hers while Laxus got whooped by his.
Erza > Kirin/ Misaki > Laxus post power up.
There is a reason why he needed a huge amp to fight an opponent of the same level Erza destroyed. But since he got his power up
Laxus = Erza > BDSK.

 

[Darklord#10]

There is a reason why he needed a huge amp to fight an opponent of the same level Erza destroyed. But since he got his power up

You realize that this is just baseless headcanon. Mashima says he's writing fights for the kids to say isn't that cool. Erza beating misaki by overpowering her dimension is the same as thunder dragon king laxus one shotting kirin. It literally doesn't make any difference for mashima

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You're controlled and still that weak," by Erza.

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I already keep saying that you guys are reading something entirely different from what the normal fans are reading. Like bro where does she say he's weak

 

[Garmadooon]

You realize that this is just baseless headcanon. Mashima says he's writing fights for the kids to say isn't that cool. Erza beating misaki by overpowering her dimension is the same as thunder dragon king laxus one shotting kirin. It literally doesn't make any difference for mashima

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I already keep saying that you guys are reading something entirely different from what the normal fans are reading. Like bro where does she say he's weak

It's true. I complained about Erza but I also complained about Laxus who was lucky that Kirin had a coffin made to give him a power-up. Honestly I don't think Kirin and Misaki are equal to Gildarts in MP even if they are in his tier. They were invented for Erza (because space magic and telekinesis) and Laxus (because DS Lightning). They had all the advantages for them in their fights.

 

[Darklord#10]

It's true. I complained about Erza but I also complained about Laxus who was lucky that Kirin had a coffin made to give him a power-up. Honestly I don't think Kirin and Misaki are equal to Gildarts in MP even if they are in his tier. They were invented for Erza (because space magic and telekinesis) and Laxus (because DS Lightning). They had all the advantages for them in their fights.

Yeah only people who want to wank nakama queen believe in gildarts level. That shit doesn't exist. Erza overpowering her dimension is the same as laxus one shotting kirin for mashima. I am hundred percent sure that Hiro didn't even know the mechanics of blue dimension till the fight

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You could ask mashima between the spriggans and Diabolos who is stronger and he wouldn't even know.

 

[FireIce]

Erza heaven wheel armor one of her weakest tied with Laxus's strongest.
The fight was a double ko, and multiple outside sources said they were equal.
Canonically Erza was still holding back since she used an attack far stronger than the one laxus tied with.
It was hinted there magic was enhanced.
"You're controlled and still that weak," by Erza. Laxus was also bloodlusted while Erza had morals on. The only reason Erza fell first because she wasted her magic power on those enchantments while still holding back. Laxus got A LOT free hits on her.

Also it's canonically she was stronger than him since they fought 2 opponents on the same level. Erza destroyed hers while Laxus got whooped by his.
Erza > Kirin/ Misaki > Laxus post power up.
There is a reason why he needed a huge amp to fight an opponent of the same level Erza destroyed. But since he got his power up
Laxus = Erza > BDSK.

Erza stopped holding back when Laxus told her to do so. She said she used all of her magic power and everything she had. Even though I (and practically everyone on this forum) believe the fight was a stalemate, Erza said that she lost. There's no way she would be stronger than Laxus even prior to his power-up. She's Laxus' equal at best. The labyrinth arc happened maybe a week after the Aldoron arc. There's no way Erza could've gotten much stronger in such a short period of time.

Erza isn't stronger than Kirin. He was smashing Laxus, whom Erza previously tied with.

 

[Darklord#10]

Erza stopped holding back when Laxus told her to do so. She said she used all of her magic power and everything she had. Even though I (and practically everyone on this forum) believe the fight was a stalemate, Erza said that she lost. There's no way she would be stronger than Laxus even prior to his power-up. She's Laxus' equal at best. The labyrinth arc happened maybe a week after the Aldoron arc. There's no way Erza could've gotten much stronger in such a short period of time.

Erza isn't stronger than Kirin. He was smashing Laxus, whom Erza previously tied with.

. Facts as always.

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why can't you accept Wendy beating gray gajeel Lucy elfman and Mira tho

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Do you guys think hiro-sensei knows who's stronger between the dragon eaters and the s12. I would like to see his thoughts on this but he already confirmed that Eileen is still one of the strongest in this sequel and since she scales to august I suppose that should be valid for him to...

 

[FireIce]

why can't you accept Wendy beating gray gajeel Lucy elfman and Mira tho

Logically she should be able to beat if we consider her victory over Haku legit and all. But meh, Mira, Gajeel and Gray were always stronger than her and always have had better feats than her so I can't believe Mashima would suddenly portray her as an high tier fighter when that was never the case before. None of them even got to shine in the labyrinth. If Wendy gets better feats than Gray this arc, I'll have to accept my defeat but for now, I just can't lol.

I can see her beating Lucy and Elfman at most but even that is debatable imo.

 

[MyaHeart35]

You realize that this is just baseless headcanon. Mashima says he's writing fights for the kids to say isn't that cool. Erza beating misaki by overpowering her dimension is the same as thunder dragon king laxus one shotting kirin. It literally doesn't make any difference for mashima

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You said it yourself. Laxus needed a power up and Erza didn't.
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I already keep saying that you guys are reading something entirely different from what the normal fans are reading. Like bro where does she say he's weak

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Erza stopped holding back when Laxus told her to do so. She said she used all of her magic power and everything she had. Even though I (and practically everyone on this forum) believe the fight was a stalemate, Erza said that she lost. There's no way she would be stronger than Laxus even prior to his power-up. She's Laxus' equal at best. The labyrinth arc happened maybe a week after the Aldoron arc. There's no way Erza could've gotten much stronger in such a short period of time.

Erza isn't stronger than Kirin. He was smashing Laxus, whom Erza previously tied with.

Laxus also claimed he lost. Then why one of Erza low tier attacks tied with Laxus's strongest post power up.
Erza said she used everything she had but had metoer blade in her pocket meaning it's confirmed she didn't go all out.
You said she could've gotten that much stronger in a short amount of time and she didn't tho. She was just bloodlusted against Misaki and had morals on against Laxus.
Gildarts is stated to be the stronger than Laxus. And Erza had a move that overpowered the Guild's strongest magic power.
Erza was completely different when fighting Laxus and Misaki.

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Logically she should be able to beat if we consider her victory over Haku legit and all. But meh, Mira, Gajeel and Gray were always stronger than her and always have had better feats than her so I can't believe Mashima would suddenly portray her as an high tier fighter when that was never the case before. None of them even got to shine in the labyrinth. If Wendy gets better feats than Gray this arc, I'll have to accept my defeat but for now, I just can't lol.

I can see her beating Lucy and Elfman at most but even that is debatable imo.

I'm not sure Wendy has the attack power to take them down. The only way she would win is if she uses her hax.

 

[Darklord#10]

Wendy vs nebaru wasn't a fight that was a complete curbstomp. That was a complete and utter assault on every fucking level. This guy fucking dogwalked Wendy. He literally beat the frickin shit out of her , lmao. Hiro should write fights like this more frequently for all other characters. This dogwalk is almost like how kirin literally curbstomp laxus. Nebal was a menace ngl bro WTF

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Erza said she used everything she had but had metoer blade in her pocket meaning it's confirmed she didn't go all out.

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How can natsu be out of power and still have strength to level an entire city on aldoron?
Mashima come on

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Also how did Eileen get back her magic power in the labyrinth? Lmao

 

[MyaHeart35]

Wendy vs nebaru wasn't a fight that was a complete curbstomp. That was a complete and utter assault on every fucking level. This guy fucking dogwalked Wendy. He literally beat the frickin shit out of her , lmao. Hiro should write fights like this more frequently for all other characters. This dogwalk is almost like how kirin literally curbstomp laxus. Nebal was a menace ngl bro WTF

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How can natsu be out of power and still have strength to level an entire city on aldoron?
Mashima come on

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Also how did Eileen get back her magic power in the labyrinth? Lmao

Just ignore everything else huh?
No point I'm going back and forth with you about Erza/ Laxus because you always believe your right.
Tho I hate to admit it, you're about Wendy and nebal she got stomp before Irene came in saved her.
It's seem Irene magic power replenished overtime. Probably cause of Elentier.
Btw
TDK Laxus = Erza > Kirin/Miskai > Laxus

 

[FireIce]

Saying Erza wasn't going all out against Laxus is basically ignoring canonical statements.

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Armadura Fairy beating Misaki doesn't mean it would do anything to Laxus or Kirin. They will casually punch it and shatter it. If a casual Laxus only needs to punch and roar to break an armor with lightning resistance, what is Armadura Fairy going to do?

Laxus w/ Elexion's power > Kirin > RL Laxus/Erza >= Misaki

 

[Darklord#10]

Not only is she stealing powers she's stealing catchphrases now. Erza saying I'm fired up is cringe asf.

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[bugen]

Saying Erza wasn't going all out against Laxus is basically ignoring canonical statements.

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Armadura Fairy beating Misaki doesn't mean it would do anything to Laxus or Kirin. They will casually punch it and shatter it. If a casual Laxus only needs to punch and roar to break an armor with lightning resistance, what is Armadura Fairy going to do?

Laxus w/ Elexion's power > Kirin > RL Laxus/Erza >= Misaki

You see?
You still avoid canonical declarations, you only put the declarations you want to put and avoid the ones you don't want to put.

The following pages of Erza's statement admitting losing, Laxus himself says that those loser words are his too, he also admits his defeat.

Erza's statement saying that she has nothing else is true, she had no magical power just like Laxus, they both had nothing against the other, they both fainted.

But the difference is that Erza was holding back when she used the enchanted swords.

That attack did a lot of damage to Laxus, and that attack wasn't serious, just imagine that attack being Erza serious like in Misaki's vs, Laxus would be totally destroyed by that serious attack.

Also, Erza's punches didn't do much damage to Laxus when she was holding back, but Laxus' punches did hit Erza mercilessly.

There's the difference, it's in the manga, you don't have to look for excuses with pages and drawn facts.

And it also seems that you say that Erza doesn't train or anything, you have to remember that Erza went from being fodder for a BDSK to defeating and surpassing another BDSK.

 

[Darklord#10]

That attack did a lot of damage to Laxus, and that attack wasn't serious, just imagine that attack being Erza serious like in Misaki's vs, Laxus would be totally destroyed by that serious attack.

where's the proof that it would destroy laxus?

 

[FireIce]

You see?
You still avoid canonical declarations, you only put the declarations you want to put and avoid the ones you don't want to put.

The following pages of Erza's statement admitting losing, Laxus himself says that those loser words are his too, he also admits his defeat.

Erza's statement saying that she has nothing else is true, she had no magical power just like Laxus, they both had nothing against the other, they both fainted.

But the difference is that Erza was holding back when she used the enchanted swords.

That attack did a lot of damage to Laxus, and that attack wasn't serious, just imagine that attack being Erza serious like in Misaki's vs, Laxus would be totally destroyed by that serious attack.

Also, Erza's punches didn't do much damage to Laxus when she was holding back, but Laxus' punches did hit Erza mercilessly.

There's the difference, it's in the manga, you don't have to look for excuses with pages and drawn facts.

And it also seems that you say that Erza doesn't train or anything, you have to remember that Erza went from being fodder for a BDSK to defeating and surpassing another BDSK.

I'm not avoiding anything.

Laxus had no reason to say that he lost. Erza had. She was unable to stand up and basically collapsed while the last thing she saw was Laxus standing in front of her. Just before he said "that was supposed to be my line", Erza said "she was going to win next time". Why wouldn't Laxus refer to those lines instead?

You have literally no proof of Erza's katanas destroying Laxus. It may have damaged Laxus, but in the following page he was smiling and electrocuted Erza with red lightning.

Suzaku and Misaki aren't equal in strength at all. Their respective performances against Erza showed it. Suzaku broke Erza's sword and took her down with a casual attack. He wasn't even serious. He didn't even flex his magic power and that brief exchange was enough for Erza to call him powerful beyond reason. Misaki's individual attacks, without the effects of the Blue Dimension, would do nowhere near as much damage as Suzaku's. Misaki needed to go all out to beat Erza. Suzaku didn't.

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Being on the same level =/= equal in strength

 

[Darklord#10]

I'm not avoiding anything.

Laxus had no reason to say that he lost. Erza had. She was unable to stand up and basically collapsed while the last thing she saw was Laxus standing in front of her. Just before he said "that was supposed to be my line", Erza said "she was going to win next time". Why wouldn't Laxus refer to those lines instead?

You have literally no proof of Erza's katanas destroying Laxus. It may have damaged Laxus, but in the following page he was smiling and electrocuted Erza with red lightning.

Suzaku and Misaki aren't the same at all. Their respective performances against Erza showed it. Suzaku broke Erza's sword and took her down with a casual attack. He wasn't even serious. He didn't even flex his magic power and that brief exchange was enough for Erza to call him powerful beyond reason. Misaki's individual attacks, without the effects of the Blue Dimension, would do nowhere near as much damage as Suzaku's. Misaki needed to go all out to beat Erza. Suzaku didn't.

Shitsaki and haku are the same hax and high MP with fodder tier stats. Like neihart and brandish. Shitsaki got two shotted by Erza lmao while kirin absolutely dunked laxus by getting a little bit serious. Shitsaki couldn't put down Erza