Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

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Because Kirin is arrogant about his power level and he was only a contender for the strongest just like Laxus is a contender for FT's strongest but we all know he isn't.
How do we know this? Kirin states it. Selene states it. Misaki's big boast is using a move against Kirin. Why do we know this?
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Yoko being that high is asinine. That was not an extreme diff. An extreme diff is when both fighters can't move. Laxus vs Erza, Misaki vs Erza, dogramag vs suzaku and natsu, suzaku vs selene. Yoko vs Erza is nowhere near extreme diff. Yoko has no reason to scale to BDSK level, erza jobbed that fight
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Kirin is an arrogant guy and he refuses to accept his defeat and especially when he got two shotted. And laxus=erza
Laxus beat Erza. An that was before he got his boost.

the rest see above
 

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Laxus beat Erza. An that was before he got his boost.

the rest see above
He barely beat her. I could just argue that she was holding back and you can't refute it
Selene never said kirin is the strongest, she said contender for the strongest. Kyria doesn't even mention him when she calls the strongest people she knows. Kirin lost and refused to admit it which shows that he's arrogant and quite frankly I don't see why suzaku would lose to kirin in a fight especially after he didn't get to lose in two attacks
 

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Because Kirin is arrogant about his power level and he was only a contender for the strongest just like Laxus is a contender for FT's strongest but we all know he isn't.
That is mostly relevant to Natsu with his Savage Flames, and was vouched by Selene.
 

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He barely beat her. I could just argue that she was holding back and you can't refute it
Selene never said kirin is the strongest, she said contender for the strongest. Kyria doesn't even mention him when she calls the strongest people she knows. Kirin lost and refused to admit it which shows that he's arrogant and quite frankly I don't see why suzaku would lose to kirin in a fight especially after he didn't get to lose in two attacks
I could argue Laxus was holding back. He only used hands instead of raining lightning down on her and overwhelming her entirely. An there was no barely, he's in no worse shape than team Natsu is after 80% of their fights. Everybody ignores Erza's whole I got my ass whooped speech in favor of some close tie bullshit. An this was a nerfed Laxus thanks to Faris.

There are 2 contenders for strongest. 1 from FT, 1 from Diablos. Yall being purposefully dense on this shit.
 

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I could argue Laxus was holding back. He only used hands instead of raining lightning down on her and overwhelming her entirely. An there was no barely, he's in no worse shape than team Natsu is after 80% of their fights. Everybody ignores Erza's whole I got my ass whooped speech in favor of some close tie bullshit. An this was a nerfed Laxus thanks to Faris.

There are 2 contenders for strongest. 1 from FT, 1 from Diablos. Yall being purposefully dense on this shit.
I'm not saying laxus Lost the fight. He won the fight but he barely edged out that win. Mashima wrote it as a double KO why should I ignore the double KO?
Selene's statements makes little sense because natsu with dragon force is stronger than laxus except you're tryna argue that red lightning laxus is stronger than the natsu that beat aldoron?
I am simply just stating my opinion that I have seen nothing from kirin to suggest he can beat suzaku in a fight, suzaku has taken attacks from the dragon gods themselves and didn't get ko'd. Besides I've always held the opinion that the gap between Misaki and kirin and suzaku is not that big
 

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I could argue Laxus was holding back. He only used hands instead of raining lightning down on her and overwhelming her entirely. An there was no barely, he's in no worse shape than team Natsu is after 80% of their fights. Everybody ignores Erza's whole I got my ass whooped speech in favor of some close tie bullshit. An this was a nerfed Laxus thanks to Faris.

There are 2 contenders for strongest. 1 from FT, 1 from Diablos. Yall being purposefully dense on this shit.
Where it was stated Laxus was holding back ? Where it was stated Faris nerfed him ? He admitted he needed his full power Red Lightning to defeat Erza and the fight ended in a double KO stated by the author and Kyria.
Erza was holding back because this is Laxus' words, you don't want to agree with your favorite character ?
"Two contenders for strongest" doesn't mean they are the strongest in their guild ? How can Kirin put down Suzaku ? How can Laxus put down DF Natsu ?
 

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Where it was stated Laxus was holding back ? Where it was stated Faris nerfed him ? He admitted he needed his full power Red Lightning to defeat Erza and the fight ended in a double KO stated by the author and Kyria.
Erza was holding back because this is Laxus' words, you don't want to agree with your favorite character ?
"Two contenders for strongest" doesn't mean they are the strongest in their guild ? How can Kirin put down Suzaku ? How can Laxus put down DF Natsu ?
Laxus under Faris control, has to actually battle Kyria. And struggled.

Laxus under his own power put Madmole and Skullion in the ground effortlessly.


Erza was fighting Laxus like he was guild member, he said fight me like I'm a real threat. Yeah, she was holding back a great deal. So much that the next chapter she began to overwhelm him and push him around. Oh, right, he was still slapping her around and she needed a unison raid to land her only big blow. I don't fight my friends like I'd fight Joe blow off the street. This is the amount of holding back folks wanna celebrate, be my guest.


I'm gunna assume Kirin would simply beat the shit out of him, like Laxus does to Natsu every fight. Suzaku insists that the other DDSK are his equal in power. He never states or suggests he is the strongest and neither does any of them. So yall arbitrarily deciding that because he's who fought Selene, makes zero sense. He and Selene have both made clear they believe the other 3 capable of the same. So again, why would i ignore Selene, Kirin, and Misaki's opinion for a fans?


DF Natsu is the strongest character in the series. He doesn't walk around like that though does he. Gildarts is still stronger than Natsu. Laxus is still stronger than Natsu. Erza is still stronger than Natsu. This is Natsu's opinion. They are still opponents he wants to overcome, hence how hype he was back in the BoFT2. Natsu has the potential to go nuclear at any moment, but he's not walking around that powerful all the time. So again, Laxus is the strongest FT member in the that Labyrinth based on consistent performance. Nothing new
 
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. So again, why would i ignore Selene, Kirin, and Misaki's opinion for a fans?
So why should we ignore the manga stating that it's a double KO. Kyria the spectator said they beat themselves. Your double standard is amazing.
 

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I'm not saying laxus Lost the fight. He won the fight but he barely edged out that win. Mashima wrote it as a double KO why should I ignore the double KO?
Selene's statements makes little sense because natsu with dragon force is stronger than laxus except you're tryna argue that red lightning laxus is stronger than the natsu that beat aldoron?
I am simply just stating my opinion that I have seen nothing from kirin to suggest he can beat suzaku in a fight, suzaku has taken attacks from the dragon gods themselves and didn't get ko'd. Besides I've always held the opinion that the gap between Misaki and kirin and suzaku is not that big
Barely? He slapped her around for a chapter. Her only big blow was a unison raid with Natsu and Gray and he literally tanked that shit and blasted the fuck out of her immediately.

Mashima did put they were both KO. Nice lil save face for Miss Erza, who as I stated in the forum during the battle I didn't even think he would let lose. Yet if that battles a double KO. So was Natsu vs Hades. So was Laxus vs Hades remnant. Gajeel vs Bloodman. An every other victory they passed out after in the series.

An I'm pointing out your opinion makes zero sense. Suzaku, Kirin, Misaki, and Selene have told you that they are all at the least as strong as Suzaku. He doesn't think he's stronger than any of them. So why do you? That makes no sense.
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So why should we ignore the manga stating that it's a double KO. Kyria the spectator said they beat themselves. Your double standard is amazing.
What double standard? Did Erza land a blow and Laxus went down? Cause Laxus landed one and left her on her knees, where she gave a speech about losing and passed out. How is that a double KO? A double KO is knocking each other out...
 

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Suzaku never said they were his equals, hell he was even surprised that selene could do a number on him. Madmolle was the one who said maybe there are others like suzaku
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An I'm pointing out your opinion makes zero sense. Suzaku, Kirin, Misaki, and Selene have told you that they are all at the least as strong as Suzaku. He doesn't think he's stronger than any of them. So why do you? That makes no sense.
Pull out the scan that had suzaku say that them black dragon slayer knights are his equals
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What double standard? Did Erza land a blow and Laxus went down? Cause Laxus landed one and left her on her knees, where she gave a speech about losing and passed out. How is that a double KO? A double KO is knocking each other out
The fact that you want us to believe that kirin is the strongest from empty statements but you yourself are ignoring the fact that mashima clearly put double KO in the manga. So why should I believe you, who's a fan like me?
 

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Laxus under Faris control, has to actually battle Kyria. And struggled.

Laxus under his own power put Madmole and Skullion in the ground effortlessly.


Erza was fighting Laxus like he was guild member, he said fight me like I'm a real threat. Yeah, she was holding back a great deal. So much that the next chapter she began to overwhelm him and push him around. Oh, right, he was still slapping her around and she needed a unison raid to land her only big blow. I don't fight my friends like I'd fight Joe blow off the street. This is the amount of holding back folks wanna celebrate, be my guest.


I'm gunna assume Kirin would simply beat the shit out of him, like Laxus does to Natsu every fight. Suzaku insists that the other DDSK are his equal in power. He never states or suggests he is the strongest and neither does any of them. So yall arbitrarily deciding that because he's who fought Selene, makes zero sense. He and Selene have both made clear they believe the other 3 capable of the same. So again, why would i ignore Selene, Kirin, and Misaki's opinion for a fans?


DF Natsu is the strongest character in the series. He doesn't walk around like that though does he. Gildarts is still stronger than Natsu. Laxus is still stronger than Natsu. Erza is still stronger than Natsu. This is Natsu's opinion. They are still opponents he wants to overcome, hence how hype he was back in the BoFT2. Natsu has the potential to go nuclear at any moment, but he's not walking around that powerful all the time. So again, Laxus is the strongest FT member in the that Labyrinth based on consistent performance. Nothing new
Erza held back against Laxus because he was a friend. So yes Laxus was beating her during the first part of the fight because she was holding back but when she stopped holding back their attacks were evenly matched. Kyria saw the fight and said that the two monsters beat each other. If they fight again with their power ups (Thunder Dragon King vs Meteor Blade), they will be equal.

You contradict yourself. You say that BDSKs are equal but at the same time you say that Kirin is the strongest because he said so. It's just arrogance like God Serena thinking she's stronger than Gildarts. Misaki didn't say that Kirin was the strongest but that she trained with him in her world. Nothing suggests he is the strongest, Selene didn't even say Kirin was the strongest member of DDSK she just said Laxus was a contender for strongest.

Agree Laxus is stronger than Natsu with FDKM, but in Dragon Force, Natsu is the strongest in the guild.
 

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Laxus under Faris control, has to actually battle Kyria. And struggled.

Laxus under his own power put Madmole and Skullion in the ground effortlessly.


Erza was fighting Laxus like he was guild member, he said fight me like I'm a real threat. Yeah, she was holding back a great deal. So much that the next chapter she began to overwhelm him and push him around. Oh, right, he was still slapping her around and she needed a unison raid to land her only big blow. I don't fight my friends like I'd fight Joe blow off the street. This is the amount of holding back folks wanna celebrate, be my guest.


I'm gunna assume Kirin would simply beat the shit out of him, like Laxus does to Natsu every fight. Suzaku insists that the other DDSK are his equal in power. He never states or suggests he is the strongest and neither does any of them. So yall arbitrarily deciding that because he's who fought Selene, makes zero sense. He and Selene have both made clear they believe the other 3 capable of the same. So again, why would i ignore Selene, Kirin, and Misaki's opinion for a fans?


DF Natsu is the strongest character in the series. He doesn't walk around like that though does he. Gildarts is still stronger than Natsu. Laxus is still stronger than Natsu. Erza is still stronger than Natsu. This is Natsu's opinion. They are still opponents he wants to overcome, hence how hype he was back in the BoFT2. Natsu has the potential to go nuclear at any moment, but he's not walking around that powerful all the time. So again, Laxus is the strongest FT member in the that Labyrinth based on consistent performance. Nothing new
Struggled? Laxus no diffs her, he didn't even get a scrap, was not out of breath nor sweating from straining himself.
 
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1 Gildarts 2 Laxus 3Erza 4 Mira 5 Natsu 6 Lucy(she and natsu might be switched) 7 Wendy 8 Grey 9 Gajeel 10 Elfman

@grey matter @FireIce this is somebody's tier list on Reddit 😭. As a fairy tail fan when you think the hole can't go deeper it goes further deeper. Lucy and natsu switching is fucking crazy. Mira being above natsu is madness, natsu fucking demolishes Mira easily, so according to this person Lucy might be stronger than natsu :yodawg. Shippers and romance and fan service people should just stay away from power level discussion on God
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Natsu fucking decimates Mira
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Random PL rankings
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"Gildarts (consistently treated as the strongest person in the guild)

Laxus (while it's kind of hard to judge his strength based on his power-up from the Kirin fight, he was still shown to be extremely strong without it)

Erza (fought Laxus to a double-KO, though she had a tougher time with the fight; Jellal would go somewhere around Laxus or Erza in terms of strength if he ever winds up joining the guild )

Natsu (under normal circumstances, so not counting outside power-ups or rage boosts; between Madmole and the illusionary guild members at Gold Owl, the series seems to indicate that Natsu's normally weaker than Laxus, and by extension Erza (who's roughly on par with Laxus) and Gildarts (who's stronger than Laxus))

Mirajane (she doesn't get many opportunities to show off, but she's still considered powerful, with the likes of Gray and Lucy feeling like they stand no chance against her - it's unclear how she compares to Natsu, especially if she uses her Allegria or Seilah forms, but I'll put her at fifth for now)

Wendy (she defeated one of the Dark Dragon Slayer Knights, even if he seemed to not be going all-out because of his crush on her; her talent impressed Irene, of all people, and her enchantments give her a ton of versatility)

Gajeel (he was able to fight base/Lightning Flame mode Natsu to a draw, and despite Natsu's desire to fight Laxus, Jellal, and Mirajane, he couldn't keep Gajeel down)

Gray (effortlessly beat all of the Thunder God Tribe at once; he hasn't had a ton of time to shine lately, with his fights almost feeling like afterthoughts, but he's still presumably about as powerful as Gajeel)

Lucy (while her Star Dress Mix didn't damage Elfman when they fought in the 100 Years Quest, she seems much more versatile and intelligent than him, which could give her an advantage, though not enough to put her over the people above her in the list)

Elfman (torn between him and Juvia - Juvia's got a lot of options to work with, but her magic seems weirdly easy to negate and she doesn't seem super durable once her Water Body magic is negated, whereas Elfman can take a ton of damage. A problem is that a lot of Elfman's fights (against Ajeel, Skullion/Madmole, etc.) happen off-screen, while Juvia's barely got to have any fights after the Grimoire Heart arc, so it's hard to judge)"

What do you think of this tier list? Not mines BTW. Natsu being madmolle tier is crazy 💀 didn't natsu cook madmolle
 

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Gildarts (consistently treated as the strongest person in the guild)

Laxus (while it's kind of hard to judge his strength based on his power-up from the Kirin fight, he was still shown to be extremely strong without it)

Erza (fought Laxus to a double-KO, though she had a tougher time with the fight; Jellal would go somewhere around Laxus or Erza in terms of strength if he ever winds up joining the guild )

Natsu (under normal circumstances, so not counting outside power-ups or rage boosts; between Madmole and the illusionary guild members at Gold Owl, the series seems to indicate that Natsu's normally weaker than Laxus, and by extension Erza (who's roughly on par with Laxus) and Gildarts (who's stronger than Laxus))

Mirajane (she doesn't get many opportunities to show off, but she's still considered powerful, with the likes of Gray and Lucy feeling like they stand no chance against her - it's unclear how she compares to Natsu, especially if she uses her Allegria or Seilah forms, but I'll put her at fifth for now)

Wendy (she defeated one of the Dark Dragon Slayer Knights, even if he seemed to not be going all-out because of his crush on her; her talent impressed Irene, of all people, and her enchantments give her a ton of versatility)

Gajeel (he was able to fight base/Lightning Flame mode Natsu to a draw, and despite Natsu's desire to fight Laxus, Jellal, and Mirajane, he couldn't keep Gajeel down)

Gray (effortlessly beat all of the Thunder God Tribe at once; he hasn't had a ton of time to shine lately, with his fights almost feeling like afterthoughts, but he's still presumably about as powerful as Gajeel)

Lucy (while her Star Dress Mix didn't damage Elfman when they fought in the 100 Years Quest, she seems much more versatile and intelligent than him, which could give her an advantage, though not enough to put her over the people above her in the list)

Elfman (torn between him and Juvia - Juvia's got a lot of options to work with, but her magic seems weirdly easy to negate and she doesn't seem super durable once her Water Body magic is negated, whereas Elfman can take a ton of damage. A problem is that a lot of Elfman's fights (against Ajeel, Skullion/Madmole, etc.) happen off-screen, while Juvia's barely got to have any fights after the Grimoire Heart arc, so it's hard to judge)"

What do you think of this tier list? Not mines BTW. Natsu being madmolle tier is crazy 💀 didn't natsu cook madmolle
So obviously Megadoomer's list :yodawg
 

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So obviously Megadoomer's list :yodawg
Bro keeps on putting natsu on madmolle's tier, How the fuck does that happen and natsu fucking annihilates Mira. Dude has a clear agenda against natsu. You should have seen how he was bitching when natsu defeated aldoron
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I can't accept natsu being on madmolle's tier. That's literally an insult to natsu currently.
 

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Suzaku never said they were his equals, hell he was even surprised that selene could do a number on him. Madmolle was the one who said maybe there are others like suzaku
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Pull out the scan that had suzaku say that them black dragon slayer knights are his equals
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The fact that you want us to believe that kirin is the strongest from empty statements but you yourself are ignoring the fact that mashima clearly put double KO in the manga. So why should I believe you, who's a fan like me?
Challenge accepted, during the conversation Suzaku mentions them all being equal. Give me a moment to find the orignal translation posted. Cause the version you're quoting is the OT. The same guy who turned Thunder Dragon King's Red Lightning into just Megaton: Red Lightning even though the kanji are completely different. Also, show me Suzaku claiming to be the strongest.


I'm not saying it doesn't say double KO. I acknowledged that when it happened. I'm saying a Double Knockout isn't what happened. They didn't knock each other out. The final attack put Erza on her knees, she used her last strength to make a speech and then passed the fuck out. Laxus stood tall the entire time, and then sat down and took a nap after. Is that, or is it not the train of events.


Which is entirely seperate from our actual conversations being that we were told there were two contenders for the Strongest. Not to mention Kirin and Misaki being compared to Gildarts. Did I miss when Suzaku was compared to him? Not to mention Misaki's big brag being her duel with Kirin, not Suzaku. An Kirin blatantly stating he's the strongest in the guild. Your argument is him fighting Selene, but Selene acknowledges them as capable of the same. Soooooo outside of calling me a fan, hence why we both have memberships here, what was your argument based on?
 

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Challenge accepted, during the conversation Suzaku mentions them all being equal. Give me a moment to find the orignal translation posted. Cause the version you're quoting is the OT. The same guy who turned Thunder Dragon King's Red Lightning into just Megaton: Red Lightning even though the kanji are completely different. Also, show me Suzaku claiming to be the strongest.


I'm not saying it doesn't say double KO. I acknowledged that when it happened. I'm saying a Double Knockout isn't what happened. They didn't knock each other out. The final attack put Erza on her knees, she used her last strength to make a speech and then passed the fuck out. Laxus stood tall the entire time, and then sat down and took a nap after. Is that, or is it not the train of events.


Which is entirely seperate from our actual conversations being that we were told there were two contenders for the Strongest. Not to mention Kirin and Misaki being compared to Gildarts. Did I miss when Suzaku was compared to him? Not to mention Misaki's big brag being her duel with Kirin, not Suzaku. An Kirin blatantly stating he's the strongest in the guild. Your argument is him fighting Selene, but Selene acknowledges them as capable of the same. Soooooo outside of calling me a fan, hence why we both have memberships here, what was your argument based on?
Suzaku never said anything about people who are on his level 😐
Selene also compared suzaku to kurunugi, so why the hell does he need to be compared to gildarts
 

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Erza held back against Laxus because he was a friend. So yes Laxus was beating her during the first part of the fight because she was holding back but when she stopped holding back their attacks were evenly matched. Kyria saw the fight and said that the two monsters beat each other. If they fight again with their power ups (Thunder Dragon King vs Meteor Blade), they will be equal.

You contradict yourself. You say that BDSKs are equal but at the same time you say that Kirin is the strongest because he said so. It's just arrogance like God Serena thinking she's stronger than Gildarts. Misaki didn't say that Kirin was the strongest but that she trained with him in her world. Nothing suggests he is the strongest, Selene didn't even say Kirin was the strongest member of DDSK she just said Laxus was a contender for strongest.

Agree Laxus is stronger than Natsu with FDKM, but in Dragon Force, Natsu is the strongest in the guild.
Kyria said they took each other out. That makes it a double KO. An changes the definition of what a KO is. An you think that Meteor Blade is equal to TDK...ok.

No. I said they're all at least as strong as Suzaku bc that was the bench we were given. I say, Selene saying he's one of the two contenders for the strongest. Though sure, feel free to argue from the OT instead, but that guy/girl is kinda shit at the gig. (TDK:Red Lightning & Megaton: Red Lightning don't have the same kanji) Misaki's big brag being her battle against Kirin. (What would it be other than training, their guild mates not mercenaries who happen to know each other.) An Kirin's being the one to blatantly state he's the Guild's Ace.

Now, we could also dive into the fact that everybody ignores Gray compared Misaki to how he feels facing Laxus or Gildarts, not just directly Gildarts. Whereas actual Laxus compared Kirin directly to Gildarts. Then look at Misaki's performance against Erza, to Kirin being able to dominate Laxus. Thought that feels rather extra.

Gildarts also tells us in Alvarez that he's always wanted to test himself against GS. So GS isn't talking from pride, his rep had him stronger. That's no longer the case come Alvarez, but based on how he did Jura and Gildarts relative strength to Jura before the timeskip he's not really tripping. Sooo, not the strongest argument point.

He doesn't walk around in DF though does he.
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Suzaku never said anything about people who are on his level 😐
Selene also compared suzaku to kurunugi, so why the hell does he need to be compared to gildarts
Kurnugi is some random dragon who lost to Georg. A considering GMG Natsu whooped a regular dragon, why would that be a bragging point?????
 

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So obviously Megadoomer's list :yodawg
"Numbers 5-8 are all pretty close together, to the point where a fight between any two of them would be tough to call. (arguably, that applies for fourth place as well, assuming that we're talking about Natsu with just what he can access without rage boosts or people giving him power-ups, though I'm sure people would get up in arms about me saying that)"

Look at what bro is saying 😭 natsu being scaled this low is fucking insane. Why the fuck is natsu so criminally underrated.
none of them is literally surviving this shit. Natsu was literally holding back against gajeel. Guys on Reddit can't debate for shit I swear. They just be saying rubbish
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What the fuck was going on here? Straight up delusional to think that Mira is anywhere close to erza. WTF? Mira third strongest in the guild 💀 :yodawg ?
 

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What the fuck was going on here? Straight up delusional to think that Mira is anywhere close to erza. WTF? Mira third strongest in the guild 💀 :yodawg ?
to be fair that thread was made back in the day when Erza and Mira seemed a lot closer in power level
 
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