Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Sevently]

I haven't done this in a while, so I might be missing characters. I also won't add Ignia's guild members or dark witch/OS 2.0, too less info.
But anyway, here is my strongest list.

God tier:
Acno (ravines of time)

Acno tier:
-Acnologia
-Ignia/prime Igneel
-Aldoron (100%)
-Merc/Selene/Viernes
-Elefseria (prime)
-Dogramag

Tier 0:
- Metalicana/Grandeeney/Skiadrum/Viselogia
- human Acno

Tier 1:
- human DGs
- DF Natsu
- Zeref (FH)

Tier 2:
- Wolven seed
- x793 Gildarts (hypothetical)
- Zeref (base)
- Duke Barbaroa (no CIS)
- George
- Elexion
- Signario sisters (not CIS)
- Suzaku
- FDKM Natsu (with DK scales/DF durability)

Tier 3:
- Animus
- August/dragon Eileen
- Laxus/prime Kirin (with Elexion soul)
- Jellal
- Erza
- FDKM Natsu (no DK scales)

Tier 4:
- Larcade
- x792 Gildarts/God Serena
- Kirin (w/o Elexion soul)
- Misaki
- Gears

Tier 5:
- Dimaria
- Mira
- DeS Gray/ISM Gajeel/LFD Natsu
- Skullion

Tier 6:
- Kyria/Madmole
- Bradman
- Mard Geer/Hades (with GH)
- Future Rouge
- Ajeel/Wahl
- Brandish/Neinhart/Jacob
- Midnight/Cobra/base Natsu/base Gajeel/base Gray

Tier 7:
- Elfman
- Lucy/Wendy
- Hyberion
- Wolfheim
- Warrod
- Makarov

Wahl much higher, above Skullion
same for Brandish, under Dimaria
August & Eileen would murder the Sisters

 

[GL_Nova]

Yeah keep leeching of natsu Erza and suzaku like you always do. You literally need to leech of suzaku's feats against selene to prove why laxus is stronger than august. That's not scaling that's called inconsistency . Also you don't get to decide why I'm here, I'm here because I wanna be here. This man out here talking as if laxus has fought the big guns of the verse, he always disappears and then he appears just to mooch of erza's feats.

Laxus is stronger than they are. He's stronger than they are because while they got whooped as a squad, he was stopping Hades dead cold on his own. Cause while we were being told he was as strong as Gildarts, and that it would take Mira and Erza together, he was putting Jura down on his own. Taking out Spriggans with literal immunity to him on his own. This isn't an assumption, this is stated fact. Has Natsu or Erza ever beaten Laxus. No, because they can't. Erza tried and ended up giving a 4 page speech about her loss. Natsu has mentioned his desire to beat him several times in this sequal. You don't like scaling, because you want those characters to be stronger. I get it. That's just too bad though. Laxus shows up, and we are blatantly told by the rest of the cast that he is by and far away stronger than them. The reaction of the team to his being added to the Labyrith being the most recent example of this. Laxus beat Kirin, it puts him above Suzaku. Everybody in the DDSK, and everybody who beat a DDSK gets beefed by those feats, because that is literally the reason it was written into the story. LET THAT SHIT GO!!! It's going to continue to frustrate you otherwise, because its the simple mechanincs of power scaling.

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Who did suzaku lose to?

Without hax Signario sisters are trash. With hax, the weaker sister easily dealt with Jellal + Erza + Minerva. How do you deal with being turned to toys and whatever?

Misaki, Kirin

That's a good question, though i think a better one would be if there were conditions that allowed it the first time, because otherwise Erza wasn't as easily manipulated the enxt go round.

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Lucy has come a long way, so has Wendy...but i wouldn't pick either of them over Gajeel and Gray.

 

[marun89]

I've been saying this for a long time, Gray disrespect is 100% the new guy's doing.
100YQ really does feel like a fanfic.

As bad as Alverass was, you could see Mashima's aura in it. I just don't feel the same with 100YQ, except the fanservice stuff.

Gray was the only character in the manga other than Natsu, who had dealt with an arc boss (that too twice!) - Lyon, Mard Geer.
Mashima had tremendous respect for Gray, and always had plot revolving around him. He was the legitimate rival of Natsu and treated as such, he even got to stalemate against one of Natsu's strongest modes - (partial) END.
Now look at Gray, pathetic. No aura, no plot, nothing. Just feels like an extra, it's as if Max is travelling with them. 100 YQ seems like fanfic written by a Gray hater tbh.

It annoys me quite a bit with the disrespect. I have hated the whole Gray vs Skullion, Mira shit. It made him look weak. I mean if this writer was supposedly a genuine gruvia liker, you would think that would be more reason to give more respect to Gray as a character. The whole mandate for Gray's development with Juvia is to make him stronger to protect her yet ironically the author is doing the opposite making him look weaker to the point we are getting Gray vs Lucy arguments. It's becoming a joke and has been for quite some time. Max reference is appropriate. Gray has been a comic relief bystander for so long, you question where the real original Gray went to.

In order to cope, im starting to treat the sequel as non Canon, alternate story.

 

[grey matter]

Misaki, Kirin

That's a good question, though i think a better one would be if there were conditions that allowed it the first time, because otherwise Erza wasn't as easily manipulated the enxt go round.

When did Suzaku lose to them in manga? If this was even stated, post the scan.

What conditions? They can just turn you into toys in "their world". Were there some conditions when Jellal/Erza/Minerva were turned into toys, or did it just happen when the sister wished it?

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Wahl much higher, above Skullion
same for Brandish, under Dimaria
August & Eileen would murder the Sisters

Wahl vs Skullion is debatable. Wahl only lasted due to immunity plus Laxus being sick. Laxus destroyed Wahl once the immunity was bypassed with red lighting.
Yes, Laxus destroyed Skullion too, but this is a stronger version of Laxus.
Skullion defeated start of spinoff DeS Gray and stalemated Mira.

Dimaria's hax is much better than Brandish's. She can only be defeated by characters with time magic who can counter timestop, or characters much stronger than her who would resist her hax.

I don't think August's copy magic grants immunity to alchemy, that happens only against caster magic. Same for enchantments, IIRC Wendy couldn't counter alchemy from Sai, a much weaker alchemist.

 

[kian]

Can’t believe there’s still stalemate deniers of Erza vs Laxus.

It’s not an insult to stalemate Erza of all people lmao

 

[Ratrace]

Can’t believe there’s still stalemate deniers of Erza vs Laxus.

It’s not an insult to stalemate Erza of all people lmao

To me that fight was a pyrrhic victory for Laxus because even tough he fall right after she did, he was up and moving way before she did (plus he had to carry her)

 

[MyaHeart35]

To me that fight was a pyrrhic victory for Laxus because even tough he fall right after she did, he was up and moving way before she did (plus he had to carry her)

Well only because of the white wizard magic he was up.

 

[Ratrace]

Well only because of the white wizard magic he was up.

Do you have proof of that because unless you’re talking about the WW losing control
even if that’s the case he was still strong enough to move around and carry Erza

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Honestly, Gajeel and Gray are more skilled fighters than Lucy. I don't know if Lucy's Uranometria or Gottfried would knock them out if they were hit. They would be significantly hurt, but defeat? That's a long shot.

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[Cosmicstar]

Honestly, Gajeel and Gray are more skilled fighters than Lucy. I don't know if Lucy's Uranometria or Gottfried would knock them out if they were hit. They would be significantly hurt, but defeat? That's a long shot.​

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Gottfried and Urano Metria are powerful attacks. You can even compare them to other powerful attacks. I would say they have a high possibility of defeating Gray and Gajeel if they are hit by them.

During Tartarous Urano Metria did more damage to Jackal than a full powered LFD punch did against Jackal.
Gottfried did more damage to Kiria than Erza enchanted sword did which was the same sword powerful enough to damage Dragon Irene.

Not to mention the attack power would double with Gemini.

With characters like Gray and Gajeel the only reason they seem weaker is because people have stopped scaling them using Natsu feats rather than their own. Gray and Gajeel were never power houses like the top. People only placed them near there due to them being natsu rivals.

 

[Garmadooon]

Do you have proof of that because unless you’re talking about the WW losing control
even if that’s the case he was still strong enough to move around and carry Erza

This is directly explained by Lucy in the manga. Everyone who was controlled by Faris regained their magic.

Look here Juvia can use her magic to protect Gray's ears. Even the Fairy Tail fodders regained their strength after getting trashed by Nebaru.

Spoiler

It was revealed then that it was because Faris got her magic stolen at distance by Selene.

Spoiler

Yes Laxus won in the context where he was the last one standing for a few seconds but he never rested like his fans claim. He literally admits that he no longer has MP and he never woke up by his own power. This is the same reason why people like Mira or Gajeel were able to produce attacks against Aldoron's golems when previously they had no magic reserves because of their previous fights.

Before anyone accuses me, no I don't hate Laxus. I like the character and his development, all I want is for his fans to stop exaggerating his strength and thinking that he can wash people on his level or that he can beat stronger people and more impressive than him. You can't get upset when I say Laxus is overrated and then write illogical things about him or make him out to be something he's not.

 

[Ratrace]

This is directly explained by Lucy in the manga. Everyone who was controlled by Faris regained their magic.

Look here Juvia can use her magic to protect Gray's ears. Even the Fairy Tail fodders regained their strength after getting trashed by Nebaru.

Spoiler

It was revealed then that it was because Faris got her magic stolen at distance by Selene.

Spoiler

I did say unless you’re talking about the WW losing control. The question is was it the reason why Laxus got back up.

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Yes Laxus won in the context where he was the last one standing for a few seconds but he never rested like his fans claim. He literally admits that he no longer has MP and he never woke up by his own power. This is the same reason why people like Mira or Gajeel were able to produce attacks against Aldoron's golems when previously they had no magic reserves because of their previous fights.

I’m not saying that Laxus didn’t go down just that he got back up way before Erza did
plus he was in better shape

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[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Gottfried and Urano Metria are powerful attacks. You can even compare them to other powerful attacks. I would say they have a high possibility of defeating Gray and Gajeel if they are hit by them.

During Tartarous Urano Metria did more damage to Jackal than a full powered LFD punch did against Jackal.
Gottfried did more damage to Kiria than Erza enchanted sword did which was the same sword powerful enough to damage Dragon Irene.

Not to mention the attack power would double with Gemini.

With characters like Gray and Gajeel the only reason they seem weaker is because people have stopped scaling them using Natsu feats rather than their own. Gray and Gajeel were never power houses like the top. People only placed them near there due to them being natsu rivals.

Natsu's LFD defeated Etherious Jackals, and Lucy's Uranometria defeated human Jackals, so the LFD spell has the advantage in terms of power. Gajeel fought Natsu LFD mode until Natsu was with his mp almost drained, so he has the feats to not be defeated by Uranometria.​

Erza didn't damage Dragon Irene just because DS magic was enchanted in the sword, Erza damaged Dragon Irene because she was cutting with strength enough to shatter a meteor. Kiria isn't that durable. She was defeated by Laxus with low effort, and I'm pretty sure that Gray could give more trouble to be defeated than her since Erza used Gray's Devil Slayer Sword Spell to hurt Laxus's body.​

Also, officially, Gray Devil Slayer mode scales close to Spriggan level:​

Gray also overcame being shattered away in pieces by Inve'ls True Ice Kamui Armor and he was able to trade blows with Natsu using part of END's power.​

Thus, I think is fair to say Lucy's ending spells could hurt significantly both Gajeel and Gray, but they didn't prove to be able to knock out them.​

 

[Darklord#10]

Natsu's LFD defeated Etherious Jackals, and Lucy's Uranometria defeated human Jackals, so the LFD spell has the advantage in terms of power. Gajeel fought Natsu LFD mode until Natsu was with his pm almost drained, so he has the feats to not be defeated by Uranometria.​

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Erza didn't damage Dragon Irene just because DS magic was enchanted in the sword, Erza damaged Dragon Irene because she was cutting with strength enough to shatter a meteor. Kiria isn't that durable. She was defeated with by Laxus with low effort, and I'm pretty sure that Gray could give more trouble to Laxus to be defeated, since Erza used Gray's Devil Slayer Sword Spell to hurt Laxus's body.​

Also, officially, Gray Devil Slayer mode scales close to Spriggan level:​

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Gray also overcame being shattered away in pieces by Kamui Armor and he was able to trade blows with Natsu using part of END's power. Thus, I think is fair to say Lucy's ending spells could hurt significantly both Gajeel and Gray, but didn't prove to be able to knock out them.​

Prime gray

. What the hell has mashima done to this guy. Bro was even spriggan 12 potential.
I told you guys skullion ended gray's entire career in that fight. Finished him

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Prime gray

. What the hell has mashima done to this guy. Bro was even spriggan 12 potential.
I told you guys skullion ended gray's entire career in that fight. Finished him

Skullion used a strong and also haxed magic. I don't think it is that bad.​

 

[GL_Nova]

Can’t believe there’s still stalemate deniers of Erza vs Laxus.

It’s not an insult to stalemate Erza of all people lmao

A 4 page speech about a loss isn't a stalemate lol. Getting up and carrying the defeated around on your back, then gaurding them when they wake up isn't a stalemate...it's a loss. NOW if we're gunna reconceptualize every battle where the heroes passed out afterwards as a tie/stalemate instead of a victory then yeah sure. lets do it.

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When did Suzaku lose to them in manga? If this was even stated, post the scan.

What conditions? They can just turn you into toys in "their world". Were there some conditions when Jellal/Erza/Minerva were turned into toys, or did it just happen when the sister wished it?

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Wahl vs Skullion is debatable. Wahl only lasted due to immunity plus Laxus being sick. Laxus destroyed Wahl once the immunity was bypassed with red lighting.
Yes, Laxus destroyed Skullion too, but this is a stronger version of Laxus.
Skullion defeated start of spinoff DeS Gray and stalemated Mira.

Dimaria's hax is much better than Brandish's. She can only be defeated by characters with time magic who can counter timestop, or characters much stronger than her who would resist her hax.

I don't think August's copy magic grants immunity to alchemy, that happens only against caster magic. Same for enchantments, IIRC Wendy couldn't counter alchemy from Sai, a much weaker alchemist.

They both clearly state who is a concern to them. Neither mention Suzaku, but blatantly state their the strongest (or strongest girl). Misaki has no problem stating when folks are stronger, why does she not say anything to support this impression of Suzaku. Please provide Suzaku stating the same or besting them.

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This is directly explained by Lucy in the manga. Everyone who was controlled by Faris regained their magic.

Look here Juvia can use her magic to protect Gray's ears. Even the Fairy Tail fodders regained their strength after getting trashed by Nebaru.

Spoiler

It was revealed then that it was because Faris got her magic stolen at distance by Selene.

Spoiler

Yes Laxus won in the context where he was the last one standing for a few seconds but he never rested like his fans claim. He literally admits that he no longer has MP and he never woke up by his own power. This is the same reason why people like Mira or Gajeel were able to produce attacks against Aldoron's golems when previously they had no magic reserves because of their previous fights.

Before anyone accuses me, no I don't hate Laxus. I like the character and his development, all I want is for his fans to stop exaggerating his strength and thinking that he can wash people on his level or that he can beat stronger people and more impressive than him. You can't get upset when I say Laxus is overrated and then write illogical things about him or make him out to be something he's not.

where does it state this woke him up? It states she lost control of their magic, not gave them a boost. Soooo can you support that assumption?

Nobody is saying you don't. We're saying it's weird to ignore Erza's 4 page speech about losing to try and paint this as some kind of stalemate or equal battle. Guess Laxus stalemated the Hades Historia. Erza stalemated the Spriggan in Hargeon because she passed out after. The series is simply chalk full of ties, and we didn't notice.

 

[MyaHeart35]

A 4 page speech about a loss isn't a stalemate lol. Getting up and carrying the defeated around on your back, then gaurding them when they wake up isn't a stalemate...it's a loss. NOW if we're gunna reconceptualize every battle where the heroes passed out afterwards as a tie/stalemate instead of a victory then yeah sure. lets do it.

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They both clearly state who is a concern to them. Neither mention Suzaku, but blatantly state their the strongest (or strongest girl). Misaki has no problem stating when folks are stronger, why does she not say anything to support this impression of Suzaku. Please provide Suzaku stating the same or besting them.

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where does it state this woke him up? It states she lost control of their magic, not gave them a boost. Soooo can you support that assumption?

Nobody is saying you don't. We're saying it's weird to ignore Erza's 4 page speech about losing to try and paint this as some kind of stalemate or equal battle. Guess Laxus stalemated the Hades Historia. Erza stalemated the Spriggan in Hargeon because she passed out after. The series is simply chalk full of ties, and we didn't notice.

It's different when the other person also admitted his loss. As well as Mashima and Kiria both confirmed it was a double ko. Neither could put each other down. They both fell due to magic exhaustion. (Plus the fight could have turned out differently if Erza didn't held back majority of the fight).

The fights you mentioned, the beat their opponent and then passed out. With Erza and Laxus they both fell down Erza just fell first. Also both of their attacks stalemated each other at the end. (When Erza finally stopped holding back.)

 

[Goku solos]

There is no evidence that Suzaku and Misaki ever fought, tf is this argument.
Misaki being the strongest girl means she is stronger than any other GIRL, not Suzaku

 

[GL_Nova]

It's different when the other person also admitted his loss. As well as Mashima and Kiria both confirmed it was a double ko. Neither could put each other down. They both fell due to magic exhaustion. (Plus the fight could have turned out differently if Erza didn't held back majority of the fight).

The fights you mentioned, the beat their opponent and then passed out. With Erza and Laxus they both fell down Erza just fell first. Also both of their attacks stalemated each other at the end. (When Erza finally stopped holding back.)

He doesn't admit a loss though. He replies that's my line to his little sister character swearing she'll beat him next time. I really don't get the attempt to use that line to undo the entire speech she gives, but yall don't get why I'm not taking you seriously. I've been a big brother 30+ years, and every time my siblings say they're gunna beat me, I promise them they won't. How did this go over your head?

 

[Rigel]

I'm just stopping by to say that Lucy hasn't had her true fight in this arc yet, so you can get ready for more incredible scenes from the character.

This is just the beginning.