Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

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He named 3 tiers for his ranking, named the strongest characters in these lists and for his lowest rank he mentioned the weakest Spriggan.

Based on Mashima Ranking:
Top Tiers:
August, Irene(he called them equal)

Mid Tiers:
Larcade,Dimaria(was called above God Serena), God Serena(these 3 are the strongest in the mid tier range)

Low Tiers:
Wahl(Weakest Spriggan because he only called him for that rank).

I assume we can add Neinhart,Jacob and Ajeel to Low Tier Range too, Brandish most likely too
Invel and Bloodman are probably in mid tier range, but weaker than God Serena,Dimaria and Larcade.

So Mashima ranking could look like this:

Top tiers:
August=Irene

Mid tiers:
Larcade>DiMaria>GodSerena>Invel>Bloodman

Low tiers:
Jacob>Neinhart>Brandish>Ajeel>Wahl
 

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He named 3 tiers for his ranking, named the strongest characters in these lists and for his lowest rank he mentioned the weakest Spriggan.

Based on Mashima Ranking:
Top Tiers:
August, Irene(he called them equal)

Mid Tiers:
Larcade,Dimaria(was called above God Serena), God Serena(these 3 are the strongest in the mid tier range)

Low Tiers:
Wahl(Weakest Spriggan because he only called him for that rank).

I assume we can add Neinhart,Jacob and Ajeel to Low Tier Range too, Brandish most likely too
Invel and Bloodman are probably in mid tier range, but weaker than God Serena,Dimaria and Larcade.

So Mashima ranking could look like this:

Top tiers:
August=Irene

Mid tiers:
Larcade>DiMaria>GodSerena>Invel>Bloodman

Low tiers:
Jacob>Neinhart>Brandish>Ajeel>Wahl
What Mashima said was ''August=Irene > Larcade, Dimaria, God Serena - last place is Wall'' Honestly he lost the chance of putting Larcade as third strongest spriggan for once and for all with this, he didn't said ''August=Irene>Larcade>Dimaria>God Serena, he mentioned Larcade, Dimaria and God Serena without the signs of equality or greater than that he used for August and Irene.

Officially we only have August=Irene>most spriggans>Wall, though God Serena being ranked above Laxus and Natsu should also put him above most spriggans (Even Dimaria was below END who stalemated bloodlusted Gray and was stopped by Alvarez Erza) So is more like August=Irene>God Serena> or< Larcade (depending on your criteria)> rest of spriggans> Wall
 

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What Mashima said was ''August=Irene > Larcade, Dimaria, God Serena - last place is Wall'' Honestly he lost the chance of putting Larcade as third strongest spriggan for once and for all with this, he didn't said ''August=Irene>Larcade>Dimaria>God Serena, he mentioned Larcade, Dimaria and God Serena without the signs of equality or greater than that he used for August and Irene.

Officially we only have August=Irene>most spriggans>Wall, though God Serena being ranked above Laxus and Natsu should also put him above most spriggans (Even Dimaria was below END who stalemated bloodlusted Gray and was stopped by Alvarez Erza) So is more like August=Irene>God Serena> or< Larcade (depending on your criteria)> rest of spriggans> Wall
Gray was a great counter to Natsu, given his Devil Slayer magic. And I'm sure Mashima was referring to regular Natsu, without the MC buffs and his END form, when he made that power scale over Laxus, God Serena and Natsu.

God Serena is not surpassing Dimaria, much less Lacarde. The power order was:
Irene = August > Lacarde > Dimaria > God Serena.

That was Mashima's positioning, anything else is just mental gymnastics.
 

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Gray was a great counter to Natsu, given his Devil Slayer magic. And I'm sure Mashima was referring to regular Natsu, without the MC buffs and his END form, when he made that power scale over Laxus, God Serena and Natsu.

God Serena is not surpassing Dimaria, much less Lacarde. The power order was:
Irene = August > Lacarde > Dimaria > God Serena.

That was Mashima's positioning, anything else is just mental gymnastics.
Mashima basically equalized Natsu with Laxus in the ranking, so this ''regular Natsu'' is not the same Natsu who is just equal to Gray and Gajeel. Besides ''regular Natsu'' hold his own against Zeref and even overpowered him physically, whcih was more impressive than END.

So for you Dimaria>God Serena>Laxus=Natsu just because Mashima mentioned some spriggans in a order without putting greater than signs? Why he made the point of putting August=Irene> but didn't put any sign for other spriggans?

https://cdn.readfairytail.com/file/mangap/1166/10503000/13.jpg

Dimaria basically said that END moved in her time due to him having more power, not because he countered her hax or anything like that, so if her magic power is around other spriggans her time stop won't work on who have more magic power than her like Gildarts level mages, otherwise it would be virtually impossible for Larcade to be above her. If you think this is just mental gymnastics than go ahead and explain how Larcade is above her if she is so powerful, time stop is defintely better than Larcade magic if it don't have a similar restriction to Brandish magic, so explain Larcade>Dimaria.
 

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Mashima basically equalized Natsu with Laxus in the ranking, so this ''regular Natsu'' is not the same Natsu who is just equal to Gray and Gajeel. Besides ''regular Natsu'' hold his own against Zeref and even overpowered him physically, whcih was more impressive than END.

So for you Dimaria>God Serena>Laxus=Natsu just because Mashima mentioned some spriggans in a order without putting greater than signs? Why he made the point of putting August=Irene> but didn't put any sign for other spriggans?

https://cdn.readfairytail.com/file/mangap/1166/10503000/13.jpg

Dimaria basically said that END moved in her time due to him having more power, not because he countered her hax or anything like that, so if her magic power is around other spriggans her time stop won't work on who have more magic power than her like Gildarts level mages, otherwise it would be virtually impossible for Larcade to be above her. If you think this is just mental gymnastics than go ahead and explain how Larcade is above her if she is so powerful, time stop is defintely better than Larcade magic if it don't have a similar restriction to Brandish magic, so explain Larcade>Dimaria.
Your text makes no sense at all.

The Natsu who fought Zeref was the one with MC buffs, as he used something called "wild flames," and Zeref was the most powerful mage in the manga at that moment. Natsu had no chance of winning in a fair scenario without his protagonist privileges.

Mashima established Irene = August, then listed the Spriggans in order of power. The fact that Mashima mentioned Larcade after Irene and August aligns with the narrative he wanted to convey in the manga, as Larcade was portrayed as very powerful and also the secret weapon to defeat Acnologia. Larcade himself even states that he, August, and Irene are quite different from the other Spriggans in terms of power.

Mashima doesn't need to use ">" for readers to understand his power rankings. After all, he didn't use this "greater than" symbol after stating "Irene = August," and then mentioning "Larcade, Dimaria, God Serena." The mere fact that Mashima established Irene and August as the only ones at the same power level, along with what was shown in the manga, allows readers to infer that the other Spriggans are below these two characters. Mashima also specified the power ranking of these Spriggans when he listed their names. The first name below Irene and August was LARCADE, as STATED AND SHOWN IN THE MANGA THROUGH THE NARRATIVE.

It's very obvious that Mashima is saying Irene is equal to August while ranking the other Spriggans as inferior to these two characters but in order of power.

Dimaria is ranked below Larcade because Hiro established it that way. You can speculate all you want about the reasons for Larcade overcoming the time stop, but this is irrelevant, as the author did not make a point of addressing it. However, he was clear in mentioning that Larcade is more powerful than her.

Additionally, Dimaria is ranked above God Serena, according to Mashima's statement. This is the reality.

The rest of your arguments are just mental gymnastics to keep overestimating God Serena.

I do not intend to engage in lengthy discussions across several pages of this forum, but rather to show the people who frequent it that the claims you make about God Serena do not reflect Mashima's words, much less the narrative. You are free to create your power scaling and distortions, but they will not hold up against the obvious truth.



 

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As for Larcade, remember that he was also shown as arrogant and falsely thinking he is above others. That's why he never atteneded any Spriggan meeting, was jealous over Natsu and was completly broken when Zeref said he was seeing him only as broken creation.
Him saying that he is on par with August and Irene was done only to show his arrogant side to add another level of despair when "reality check" moment comes. I wouldn't take this too seriously. It's also confirmed by Zeref that Larcade, while the strongest of his creations, was a failure. He couldn't defeat Acnologia in any way.
 
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Dimaria basically said that END moved in her time due to him having more power, not because he countered her hax or anything like that,
Not true

 

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The Natsu who fought Zeref was the one with MC buffs, as he used something called "wild flames," and Zeref was the most powerful mage in the manga at that moment. Natsu had no chance of winning in a fair scenario without his protagonist privileges.
You're the one who's not making any sense. Natsu just used the power his always had. Flames of emotion.

@Fairies Flame @Shoutmon @Goku solos I don't know if you guys remember but some fans were telling us that
this wasn't natsu's flames. It was just because god seed had the highest power so he's destruction beam was higher and natsu didn't burn aldoron but look at this . It's actually natsu's flames 🤣🤣🤣

:hip:datass.
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The rest of your arguments are just mental gymnastics to keep overestimating God Serena.

I do not intend to engage in lengthy discussions across several pages of this forum, but rather to show the people who frequent it that the claims you make about God Serena do not reflect Mashima's words, much less the narrative. You are free to create your power scaling and distortions, but they will not hold up against the obvious truth.
Lol. Nice debunk. I agree with you that he's clearly delusional and likes distorting the manga 😂😂
 
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The Natsu who fought Zeref was the one with MC buffs, as he used something called "wild flames," and Zeref was the most powerful mage in the manga at that moment. Natsu had no chance of winning in a fair scenario without his protagonist privileges.
It's precisely MC buffed Natsu that i'm talking about, without it he should be just Gray level, but mashima stated at least two times scaled this Natsu to Laxus



Natsu hold his own and even physcially overwhelmed Zeref BEFORE Savage Flames of Emotion, this Natsu feels more impressive than END, and Laxus should be stronger than the Gray who fought him.

Mashima established Irene = August, then listed the Spriggans in order of power. The fact that Mashima mentioned Larcade after Irene and August aligns with the narrative he wanted to convey in the manga, as Larcade was portrayed as very powerful and also the secret weapon to defeat Acnologia. Larcade himself even states that he, August, and Irene are quite different from the other Spriggans in terms of power.

Mashima doesn't need to use ">" for readers to understand his power rankings. After all, he didn't use this "greater than" symbol after stating "Irene = August," and then mentioning "Larcade, Dimaria, God Serena." The mere fact that Mashima established Irene and August as the only ones at the same power level, along with what was shown in the manga, allows readers to infer that the other Spriggans are below these two characters. Mashima also specified the power ranking of these Spriggans when he listed their names. The first name below Irene and August was LARCADE, as STATED AND SHOWN IN THE MANGA THROUGH THE NARRATIVE.
For me it's precisely what appears when i translate the page to english ''August Irene > Larcade, Dimaria, God Serena - last place is World.'' Larcade put himself above REGULAR spriggans, but my point is that God Serena is also above regular spriggans as he was ranked above Laxus and should be Gildarts level, just that, Dimaria never had this kind of hype, if you go by her broken ability fine, but then there is no real explanation for her to not be above Larcade AND IRENE, even August can copy her time stop, but these two have no answer for that if she isn't a regular spriggan with the same restriction of Brandish.

It's very obvious that Mashima is saying Irene is equal to August while ranking the other Spriggans as inferior to these two characters but in order of power.
No use to say it's obvious because i disagree, he could be mentioning the spriggans as he is remembering them, like Irene who was forgotten in the dragon slayer ranking. It's like you started to read the manga yesterday, nothing is obvious with Mashima, Wall rank was anything but obvious, Brandish just wanting TO FIND the key was anything but obvious and go on.

Dimaria is ranked below Larcade because Hiro established it that way. You can speculate all you want about the reasons for Larcade overcoming the time stop, but this is irrelevant, as the author did not make a point of addressing it. However, he was clear in mentioning that Larcade is more powerful than her.
So you don't know, you just blindly defend it even if it don't have any explanation, ok, that's my point, i can explain why Larcade is superior but you don't.

Additionally, Dimaria is ranked above God Serena, according to Mashima's statement. This is the reality.
You like to strecth statements to fit what you think isn't it? Bro reality is that he din't used the greater than sign after Larcade, people are free to point that and do a ranking with that in mind

The rest of your arguments are just mental gymnastics to keep overestimating God Serena.
Bro you literally used Larcade vs Kagura panels to conclude your idea that Larcade is stronger, prove that Kagura is stronger than Jura first before trying to make it seems that Larcade vs Kagura is any relevant, but the one overestimating characters here it's me

And why am i overestimating Serena? Because i'm using his rank above Laxus, his historia holding his own against Gildarts and Gildarts praising his alive version to say that he is Gildarts level? He also overpowered Jellal the 100YQ Laxus rival at the start just like Kirin did with Laxus himself, but i'm just overestimating Serena. I just believe that Dimaria has the same restriction of Brandish and that the the only specific rank was August=Irene>rest>Wall. I'm just pointing that what appears is Larcade,Dimaria,God Serena, then you want to say that this was Larcade>Dimaria>God Serena and i'm the one distorting things?

Bro, it still says that Natsu was able of moving her time stop due to END's power, what we know about this power is that it is useful to kill immortals, just that, it was never stated to grant you immunity against hax, so i think it's safe to assume it was END's superior raw power that allowed him to move the time stop, so Dimaria just like Brandish can't affect people with higher magic power, but why it's so safe to assume? It's the only explanation for Dimaria not being above Larcade and Irene, just that
 
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Bro, it still says that Natsu was able of moving her time stop due to END's power, what we know about this power is that it is useful to kill immortals, just that, it was never stated to grant you immunity against hax, so i think it's safe to assume it was END's superior raw power that allowed him to move the time stop, so Dimaria just like Brandish can't affect people with higher magic power, but why it's so safe to assume? It's the only explanation for Dimaria not being above Larcade and Irene, just that
Yes End’s power it didn’t say anything about his power level (power and power level are two different things)

Also it said maybe it’s a power he got for being END
 
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Yes End’s power it didn’t say anything about his power level (power and power level are two different things)

Also it said maybe it’s a power he got for being END
I understand your point, but i'm not just jumping to conclusions just because i think power should mean power level like some would do here. I can give you 3 good reasons of why power should mean power level

1-END power was never said to grant you immunity to any hax, it was just said to kill immortals, so assuming that END power gave him immunity to time stop would be a bigger assumption
2-If Aged Seal can't affect people with higher magic power just like Brandish this would explain why she isn't above Larcade and Irene, time stop is a broken ability after all
3-In Chapter 503 Dimaria says ''You are telling me that his power surpass even gods'' here the link from the same site you put here before

https://mangapark.net/title/10692-en-fairy-tail/813812-ch-503
 

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We can safely say that Natsu used Savage Flames to “beat” Zeref which is a considered a peak buff that he has for himself without external help but something he cannot do passively as it would burn even him and surpass his limits with the sheer heat alone.

even with DF, base Zeref could knock Natsu back with but a glance. And even in base Zeref found Natsu’s strength to be disappointing.
 

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We can safely say that Natsu used Savage Flames to “beat” Zeref which is a considered a peak buff that he has for himself without external help but something he cannot do passively as it would burn even him and surpass his limits with the sheer heat alone.

even with DF, base Zeref could knock Natsu back with but a glance. And even in base Zeref found Natsu’s strength to be disappointing.
Zeref is underrated tbh, he was very mocked here for many years because "POF Base Natsu one shotted him loool" (with Jean Grey meme pic) but as I always said you can put any Alvarez villain against max POF Natsu and they would be all defeated in 1v1 (except Acnologia for obvious reasons) or when people said he struggled in a brawl fight against FDK Natsu when he could take him in a dark magic prison when he became serious (Natsu needed DF to free from this spell and Zeref was still superior) and in their first fight he tanked Igneel-empowered-Natsu without using regeneration reserves and while holding back because he wanted Natsu to kill him. People also said that immortality is the only thing which makes him strong but he just can't die, nothing to do with durability as he can still be KO (Mavis is immortal too but she's weak asf in combat despite her great Magic Power and knowledge).
His main default is the way how Hiro didn't show how much a great caster magic he can be in combat like summoning demons, control time, control magic elements, etc...
 

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I understand your point, but i'm not just jumping to conclusions just because i think power should mean power level like some would do here. I can give you 3 good reasons of why power should mean power level
If I ask you what Natsu (magical) power is what would your answer be
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1-END power was never said to grant you immunity to any hax, it was just said to kill immortals, so assuming that END power gave him immunity to time stop would be a bigger assumption
That Q&A that you didn’t read just said it may be a power he got for being END or something like that.
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2-If Aged Seal can't affect people with higher magic power just like Brandish this would explain why she isn't above Larcade and Irene, time stop is a broken ability after all
It does work on Brandish if you look on the bottom Dimaria does that thing with her teeth when she’s about to use her power
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3-In Chapter 503 Dimaria says ''You are telling me that his power surpass even gods'' here the link from the same site you put here before

https://mangapark.net/title/10692-en-fairy-tail/813812-ch-503
That could be Dimaria just being Scared and not knowing about END’s power or to be fair Hiro could have changed his mind
 
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If I ask you what Natsu (magical) power is what would your answer be
Depends on the context, the way you asked seems more you are asking for his Fire Dragon Slayer Magic, but for example, if i say: Neinhart was defeated due to Natsu's power. Am i talking about the nature of fire dragon slayer magic or i'm talking about how strong Natsu power is? I choose the later because Fire Dragon Slayer is not a counter for Neinhart abilities. A completely different context would be if i say ''Larcade was defeated due to Sting's power'' because Sting is weaker than Larcade and what granted victory to his was the fact that his magic countered Larcade magic.

That Q&A that you didn’t read just said it may be a power he got for being END or something like that
But i read: Mira: Maybe it's a power he got for being END or something like that. Lucy: Natsu was tied up too wasn't he? Mira: He just went, BOOM, and just used his END power. Lucy: He had those magic power blocking handcuff on too. Mira: END power. Lucy: That's a really useful power

What i'm trying to say is that END power is a power boost instead of an ability that negates hax. I'm not gonna say that this is obvious like some would do because it isn't, i see that you are pointing it as hax counter ability, it's a possible interpreation due to the word used, you are right to put words to scrutiny, but my point is that it's more fair to be a power boost than a hax counter ability due to the set of reasons i put here. Besides since the nature of END's powers were never fully detailed i just don't think it's fair to assume that it simply counter time stop.

It does work on Brandish if you look on the bottom Dimaria does that thing with her teeth when she’s about to use her power
Most spriggans have a similar level of power, so Dimaria power can work on most spriggans, Brandish tried to use her Command T on Neinhart, but it didn't worked because AFTER the Irene enchant his magic power increased to surpass her, my point is that her magic don't work on people with higher magic power than her like END, but if you have the same level of power it will still work. The reason that Larcade and Irene are above her is because they have more magic power.

That could be Dimaria just being Scared and not knowing about END’s power or to be fair Hiro could have changed his mind
These are theories, but anything to support them?
 

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Depends on the context, the way you asked seems more you are asking for his Fire Dragon Slayer Magic, but for example, if i say: Neinhart was defeated due to Natsu's power. Am i talking about the nature of fire dragon slayer magic or i'm talking about how strong Natsu power is? I choose the later because Fire Dragon Slayer is not a counter for Neinhart abilities. A completely different context would be if i say ''Larcade was defeated due to Sting's power'' because Sting is weaker than Larcade and what granted victory to his was the fact that his magic countered Larcade magic.
you do make a good point on this one but usually when someone is talking about a ranking they don’t just say power by itself
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But i read: Mira: Maybe it's a power he got for being END or something like that. Lucy: Natsu was tied up too wasn't he? Mira: He just went, BOOM, and just used his END power. Lucy: He had those magic power blocking handcuff on too. Mira: END power. Lucy: That's a really useful power
power here is just another name for ability because they’re talking about something he can use not how strong he is
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Most spriggans have a similar level of power, so Dimaria power can work on most spriggans, Brandish tried to use her Command T on Neinhart, but it didn't worked because AFTER the Irene enchant his magic power increased to surpass her, my point is that her magic don't work on people with higher magic power than her like END, but if you have the same level of power it will still work. The reason that Larcade and Irene are above her is because they have more magic power.
depends on the magic some can work on people that are stronger some can’t
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These are theories, but anything to support them?
Yes Hiro himself
you have anything that supports yours
 
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Dimaria's words stated that Natsu was able to move in the stopped time because he was more powerfull than her.


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Obviously, Dimaria can't keep Irene, August and Larcade in the stopped time area otherwise she would be stronger than them.
 

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Dimaria's words stated that Natsu was able to move in the stopped time because he was more powerfull than her.


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Obviously, Dimaria can't keep Irene, August and Larcade in the stopped time area otherwise she would be stronger than them.
Yeah but later on Hiro said it’s a power he got for being END so either END has some type of ability that allows him to move or Hiro changed his mind
 

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Yeah but later on Hiro said it’s a power he got for being END so either END has some type of ability that allows him to move or Hiro changed his mind
I didn't interpret it this way.
 

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you do make a good point on this one but usually when someone is talking about a ranking they don’t just say power by itself
Neither i did a ranking but i still said power, my example was to show that the same way Natsu defeated Neinhart because his power was superior, END should have defeated Dimaria because his power was superior, not because of any ability, i was demonstrating that the use of the word power can mean it.

power here is just another name for ability because they’re talking about something he can use not how strong he is
Not necessarily, and without direct evidences of an ability i cannot just assume it. Like i said, what we know about END powers is that it uses fire and can kill a immortal, if it have an ability to counter time stop it should have been directly stated, but in other hand we can simply assume that END power surpassed Dimaria's power and due to that Age Seal didn't worked on him.

Yes Hiro himself
you have anything that supports yours
Where? The Q&A? But like i said it don't necessarily means ability and could mean power level or power boost
Lack of detailed descriptions about END power, Larcade and Irene being above Dimaria and Dimaria words
 
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