Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[grey matter]

Suzaku can one shot literally any spriggan with maybe the exception being August not becauseAugusto is stronger than Eileen. The reason why Suzaku is a horrible match up for Eileen is two things. Eileen is a certified jobber and Suzaku isn't going to be playing around, all he needs is one swing and Eileen is gone. He's definitely faster than her that's for sure. All s12 are literally jobbers and suzaku isn't, he's not going to "play with prey". Same with misaki.




I literally said no hax involved can you even read at all? With hax kyria can one shot erza and laxus something she actually did lmao can't say the same for any spriggan.

Also you literally said that natsu and erza were open but @GodSlayer666 baked you on that point with actual manga panels and you can't address that.

You see the difference between normal fans and spriggan fans is we actually post manga feats to back-up our claim while you guys live in lala land no featsand just vibes. If I ask you to show me spriggan 12 who can one shot natsu and erza together you can't

Legitimately mental. You even mentioned no hax, and he brought up Marin lmfao.

Spriggan fans have got to be the most dishonest anime fanbase I've ever seen.

August > Eileen is canon by the way. By portrayal, just a bit above. By feats and abilities, he destroys her easily. Dude is the Suzaku of Spriggans, he (and GOAT Serena to a lesser extend) is carrying spriggans ass so hard at this point

 

[Rigel]

Ajeel might last a little longer because of Suzaku being at a disadvantage unless his sword has a special able that counters Ajeel magic

Based on what we've seen from intangibility users throughout this arc, especially in this chapter, it's necessary for the user to have reaction time to transform their body into the element.

Juvia was hit by several anchors; she didn't have enough reaction time to transform her body into water.

In the battle against Gate, she was also hit by a tree trunk and even screamed in pain.

Daemon was also defeated by a speed blitz from Mirajane using Alegria. These are good examples.

This also explains why Skullion has injuries, even though Mira was only using Satan Soul in the confrontation.

There are several examples.

Suzaku is far superior to Ajeel in terms of speed and movement; Ajeel would probably be killed instantly, without giving him time to use his magic.

 

[Ratrace]

Based on what we've seen from intangibility users throughout this arc, especially in this chapter, it's necessary for the user to have reaction time to transform their body into the element.

Based on the fact that sword users don’t do well against intangibility users unless they have some kind of magic that helps them counter it. Characters need reactions for almost everything

 

[Darklord#10]

August > Eileen is canon by the way. By portrayal, just a bit above. By feats and abilities, he destroys her easily. Dude is the Suzaku of Spriggans, he (and GOAT Serena to a lesser extend) is carrying spriggans ass so hard at this point

For me it doesn't really matter if Augusto is stronger than Eileen. If mashima thinks their on the same level it's whatever. The big deal is Eileen is a jobber so like even if she's stronger than most of the cast, she's going to have trouble against the top dragon slayers because she's weak against DS magic we've seen it.

 

[Rigel]

Based on the fact that sword users don’t do well against intangibility users unless they have some kind of magic that helps them counter it. Characters need reactions for almost everything

Yes, and I'm saying that Ajeel has no feat that justifies reacting to Suzaku's attacks.

Mirajane only has physical punches, and even then, she killed Daemon.

 

[Ratrace]

Juvia was hit by several anchors; she didn't have enough reaction time to transform her body into water.

In the battle against Gate, she was also hit by a tree trunk and even screamed in pain.

Daemon was also defeated by a speed blitz from Mirajane using Alegria. These are good examples.

This also explains why Skullion has injuries, even though Mira was only using Satan Soul in the confrontation.

There are several examples.

Suzaku is far superior to Ajeel in terms of speed and movement; Ajeel would probably be killed instantly, without giving him time to use his magic.

You forgot Meredy vs. juvia

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Yes, and I'm saying that Ajeel has no feat that justifies reacting to Suzaku's attacks.

Mirajane only has physical punches, and even then, she killed Daemon.

I’m just saying that Ajeel at least has a way to counter Suzaku attacks unlike most of the other spriggans

 

[WoWfan]

I think i see why people have been hyping Lucy up so much till now, and I should have seen it too, if she can master Gotfried on her own she would trully be star level, in fact higher than that, considering the feat involved moving several stars lightyears apart relatively fast in seconds, that is insane, Multi-Solar System ro Galaxy level at best.

She is even stronger than Frieza at this point, and given enough time, she can eclipse universal threat like Acnologia and already surpassed the Fraud Gods like Ignia!! Maybe, JUST Maybe, can finally reach the level of Ichiya, and shatter the Hiro Multiverse!!!

you know what, I think I’m turning over new leaf on this whole power system, I think I see what these Lucy fans have been on about with hyping their girl up to no avail. heck, why not go higher than that, lets look at Laxus, he could easily oneshot the fraud gods themselves if he so chose with but a wink of his eyelid!!!

you know, I think I see the light and converted, especially on this particular first day of the month that commonly expressed by everyone!!!

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Ajeel turns swords into sand when it touches his body. '-'

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It's so sad that there are a lot of people here who would be angry about the fact that a fight between Brandish and Suzuku would be the latter shattering his sword, then the sword would "disappear" in his hand as soon as he shattered it. Suzuku would be confused and said, "Why did my sword disappear? ", and Brandish would answer, "I turned it into a non-factor. It's such a bother".

 

[WoWfan]

Ajeel turns swords into sand when it touches his body. '-'

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It's so sad that there are a lot of people here who would be angry about the fact that a fight between Brandish and Suzuku would be the latter shattering his sword, then the sword would "disappear" in his hand as soon as he shattered it. Suzuku would be confused and said, "Why did my sword disappear? ", and Brandish would answer, "I turned it into a non-factor. It's such a bother".

The way I see it, there are people who get mad for saying that Brandish is still stronger than Lucy given that the latter is terrified of the former and with showings in the past, trying to say that her Taurus form can match Brandish’s power at least.

 

[GodSlayer666]

I'm tired of this discussion about Erza and Laxus' level and the Spriggan level because you clearly ignore the manga's context in order to demote the Spriggan group. And I think that I was already clear about what I was defending.

And you are ignoring how the spriggans were defeated. I'm not demoting anything, it wasn't me who drew Neinhart, Wall and Jacob being one shotted, it wasn't me who turned Ajeel into a Elfman and Lisanna victim, it wasn't me who drew Gray and Gajeel curbstomping Invel and Bloodman with a power up that didn't even put them at Laxus and Jellal level, it wasn't me who made a Gray level END offscreen Dimaria. And about Erza all you use is the Irene fight where Erza even got boosted by Irene own enchantments as Wendy used her body.

What happened with Erza and Natsu against Suzaku is that the Fairy Tail wizards challenged him with their casual levels, while Suzaku would only be dealt with if they were prepared to fight someone who needed their peak.
Suzaku is strong, and he can one-shot any Spriggan who isn't prepared to fight him; however, what you don't count on is that the Spriggans with application magic can subdue him with their power quite fast if they are prepared, and some of them, like Irene and August, have already proved to be able to keep fighting even with serious wounds.
Misaki is at least as strong as Suzaku, and Erza fought her and "won", which proves that Suzaku wouldn't be able to defeat Erza if she were more prepared to fight.

Suzaku didn't even used a named attack, more casual than that impossible, yet he one shotted her, in that case it was casual vs casual, Misaki by other hand was unable to do the same and no ''perharps'' equalize them. But Natsu was far from being casual, and he literally said that he wasn't holding back at that time

Ajeel might last a little longer because of Suzaku being at a disadvantage unless his sword has a special able that counters Ajeel magic

Suzaku should be able to counter logias

At his introduction he cuts Alta Face's fingernail dirt creatures and this dirt property should be similar to sand. Even after being cut the creatures seems to not be very solid

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

And you are ignoring how the spriggans were defeated. I'm not demoting anything, it wasn't me who drew Neinhart, Wall and Jacob being one shotted, it wasn't me who turned Ajeel into a Elfman and Lisanna victim, it wasn't me who drew Gray and Gajeel curbstomping Invel and Bloodman with a power up that didn't even put them at Laxus and Jellal level, it wasn't me who made a Gray level END offscreen Dimaria. And about Erza all you use is the Irene fight where Erza even got boosted by Irene own enchantments as Wendy used her body.



Suzaku didn't even used a named attack, more casual than that impossible, yet he one shotted her, in that case it was casual vs casual, Misaki by other hand was unable to do the same and no ''perharps'' equalize them. But Natsu was far from being casual, and he literally said that he wasn't holding back at that time

Suzaku should be able to counter logias

At his introduction he cuts Alta Face's fingernail dirt creatures and this dirt property should be similar to sand. Even after being cut the creatures seems to not be very solid

You are just incoherent for pretending that Misaki wasn't one-shot by Erza, that Haku wasn't defeated by a not-so-strong attack from Wendy, and that Kirin wasn't defeated by the same spell that defeated Wall, which is a finisher spell. This argument of being one-shot is kind of mediocre, because a finisher spell is supposed to be used to defeat the opponent, regardless of whether it was used quickly in the fight or as a last resort. The Spriggan overall suffered a more fair defeat than Haku, Misaki, and Kirin.

A strong swordman doesn't need a named attack to cut fiercely. Erza didn't use a named attack to destroy the meteor, Irene's body, or make a hole in Plutogrim.
It's not hard to see Natsu, without holding back, attacking with a power that he thinks is enough to hurt his opponent, but it isn't, and then, later, he manages to create a more powerful attack. It happened with Madmole.

Natsu rushed to attack Suzaku without being prepared for how strong the opponent was, and, because of it, he was cut and defeated. Later, he proved to be able to nullify the cuts with dragon slayer fire magic:

Please, stop pretending that Suzaku is the only strong wizard that defeated Erza and Natsu's level of wizards, because Youkou did that with a smoke monster; Brandish did that by growing Natsu's tumor; Ajeel almost defeated Erza, who needed Bisca's help; Neinhart defeated Erza; August defeated Jellal + Oracion Seis, etc. This Suzaku's feat is basically the standard of the Spriggan level and not an exception. And just because you preferred a damage feat over a magical effect feat, your preference can't change the fact that some wizards with magical effects are as strong as the one who quickly knocked out casual Erza and Natsu with his sword.

Unless these "finger tail monsters" have the power to turn every object into sand, there is no analogy with them and Ajeel's magic.

 

[Goku solos]

Do you realise that Ajeel literally said ANYTHING that touches turn into sand? so it's not even applied to swords only and the fact he was harmed by Natsu Elfman and etc' literally proves him wrong.
Also this mf literally was defeated by a sword.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Do you realise that Ajeel literally said ANYTHING that touches turn into sand? so it's not even applied to swords only and the fact he was harmed by Natsu Elfman and etc' literally proves him wrong.
Also this mf literally was defeated by a sword.

I doubt that he means the human body in the "anything", because when Natsu punched him, he didn't say: "How is that possible?". He is stating that no object can hurt him.

 

[WoWfan]

I doubt that he means the human body in the "anything", because when Natsu punched him, he didn't say: "How is that possible?". He is stating that no object can hurt him.

Other thank turning the human body into a mummy.

 

[Darklord#10]

You are just incoherent for pretending that Misaki wasn't one-shot by Erza, that Haku wasn't defeated by a not-so-strong attack from Wendy, and that Kirin wasn't defeated by the same spell that defeated Wall, which is a finisher spell. This argument of being one-shot is kind of mediocre, because a finisher spell is supposed to be used to defeat the opponent, regardless of whether it was used quickly in the fight or as a last resort. The Spriggan overall suffered a more fair defeat than Haku, Misaki, and Kirin.

A strong swordman doesn't need a named attack to cut fiercely. Erza didn't use a named attack to destroy the meteor, Irene's body, or make a hole in Plutogrim.
It's not hard to see Natsu, without holding back, attacking with a power that he thinks is enough to hurt his opponent, but it isn't, and then, later, he manages to create a more powerful attack. It happened with Madmole.

Natsu rushed to attack Suzaku without being prepared for how strong the opponent was, and, because of it, he was cut and defeated. Later, he proved to be able to nullify the cuts with dragon slayer fire magic:

Please, stop pretending that Suzaku is the only strong wizard that defeated Erza and Natsu's level of wizards, because Youkou did that with a smoke monster; Brandish did that by growing Natsu's tumor; Ajeel almost defeated Erza, who needed Bisca's help; Neinhart defeated Erza; August defeated Jellal + Oracion Seis, etc. This Suzaku's feat is basically the standard of the Spriggan level and not an exception. And just because you preferred a damage feat over a magical effect feat, your preference can't change the fact that some wizards with magical effects are as strong as the one who quickly knocked out casual Erza and Natsu with his sword.

Unless these "finger tail monsters" have the power to turn every object into sand, there is no analogy with them and Ajeel's magic.

You're just debunking yourself . You don't even realize it.
Natsu decided to increase the intensity of the heat of his flames to beat madmolle. This is how natsu always fights. Against suzaku natsu didn't even try to get hotter he switched his entire fighting style against suzaku. He developed a whole new technique against suzaku .

Are you even reading the panels you're posting. Natsu destroyed 3 spriggans and got one shot by suzaku

 

[WoWfan]

Not always, like with Gajeel, Jackal, Zancrow, to name a few. There is strategy involved with other fights too. Suzaku got bodied by a nerfed weaker dragon god while a Spriggan of said level managed to cause damage to a DG nerfed and at full power.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

You're just debunking yourself . You don't even realize it.
Natsu decided to increase the intensity of the heat of his flames to beat madmolle. This is how natsu always fights. Against suzaku natsu didn't even try to get hotter he switched his entire fighting style against suzaku. He developed a whole new technique against suzaku .

Are you even reading the panels you're posting. Natsu destroyed 3 spriggans and got one shot by suzaku

Natsu just put magic in her arms to tank the cuts. I'm pretty sure that he did something like that previously in the manga. I'm not debunking anything.

Without Lucy's power, Natsu would be easily taken by Jacob's transport magic.
He passed out against Brandish with little effort from her.
He wouldn't have done anything against Dimaria if it weren't for E.N.D's power.

Funny how Natsu didn't even need an enhanced mode, such as Dragon Force or even Lightning Fire Dragon Mode to fight Suzaku later.

 

[Darklord#10]

no hax involved

Without Lucy's power, Natsu would be easily taken by Jacob's transport magic.
He passed out against Brandish with little effort from her.
He wouldn't have done anything against Dimaria if it weren't for E.N.D's power

Are you actually capable of reading? Read what I wrote. I said no hax involved. All what you typed is called cheat magic. I said one shot both natsu and erza without HAX INVOLVED. Calm down and read. With hax even a fodder like brandish is capable of affecting augusto. Larcade magic can work on people above him. I'm not talking about hax here. Brandish quite literally got one shot by Dimaria and she was about to get cooked by Neinhart and natsu one shot the both of them

Funny how Natsu didn't even need an enhanced mode, such as Dragon Force or even Lightning Fire Dragon Mode to fight him later.

Is this a joke? You post natsu using fire dragon King scales and you said he didn't fight suzaku using enhanced mode?

Natsu just put magic in her arms to tank the cuts. I'm pretty sure that he did something like that previously in the manga. I'm not debunking anything

. Bro do you have comprehension issues? This is why I get angry. You show a scan of natsu blocking an attack with his hands and you say it the same thing as against suzaku. THE FUCKING PANEL OF NATSU ISN'T EVEN THE SAME

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Spriggan fans

Itachi fans exist bro.

 

[GodSlayer666]

You are just incoherent for pretending that Misaki wasn't one-shot by Erza, that Haku wasn't defeated by a not-so-strong attack from Wendy, and that Kirin wasn't defeated by the same spell that defeated Wall, which is a finisher spell. This argument of being one-shot is kind of mediocre, because a finisher spell is supposed to be used to defeat the opponent, regardless of whether it was used quickly in the fight or as a last resort. The Spriggan overall suffered a more fair defeat than Haku, Misaki, and Kirin.

Erza was K.Oedby Suzaku but not by Misaki and but you want to equalize both attacks Haku is a hax merchant. Laxus got a stronger mode change and one shotted Kirin while Wall was one shotted by a weaker mode change that Kirin tanked and even overpowered, just imagine pushing DBZ Freeza agenda by saying he is still stronger than Cell despite being folded by SSJ1 level characters while you need SSJ2 level characters to fold Cell this is how spriggan agenda is pushed...

A strong swordman doesn't need a named attack to cut fiercely. Erza didn't use a named attack to destroy the meteor, Irene's body, or make a hole in Plutogrim.
It's not hard to see Natsu, without holding back, attacking with a power that he thinks is enough to hurt his opponent, but it isn't, and then, later, he manages to create a more powerful attack. It happened with Madmole.

Suzaku is not a FT mage that Hiro draws all the time for Hiro to stop caring about naming his attacks, if Suzaku strongest attacks are named then a non named attack is casual, besides it's pretty clear that he only became serious when he faced Selene

What's your evidence that Suzaku was beyond casual when he folded Natsu and Erza ? Because the story only suggests that he got serious against Selene.

Please, stop pretending that Suzaku is the only strong wizard that defeated Erza and Natsu's level of wizards, because Youkou did that with a smoke monster; Brandish did that by growing Natsu's tumor; Ajeel almost defeated Erza, who needed Bisca's help; Neinhart defeated Erza; August defeated Jellal + Oracion Seis, etc. This Suzaku's feat is basically the standard of the Spriggan level and not an exception. And just because you preferred a damage feat over a magical effect feat, your preference can't change the fact that some wizards with magical effects are as strong as the one who quickly knocked out casual Erza and Natsu with his sword.

Suzaku defeated Erza without hax differently from Youko and Brandish cases. Erza grew far stronger than Ajeel in 100YQ and it was that Erza that was beaten by Suzaku and even if she didn't got stronger he still defeated her more easily. Neinhart defeated a tired Erza. August is a top spriggan. Spriggans are jus wanked fodders. Let's just ignore all fights and push agendas then Of course i prefer damage feats, people who make damage feats always beat magical effect users in an embarrassing way if they aren't reduced into irrelevant fodders like Marin Hollow lol

Suzaku got bodied by a nerfed weaker dragon god while a Spriggan of said level managed to cause damage to a DG nerfed and at full power.

Selene wasn't nerfed and stop acting like if Brandish can leech feats of people she gigantifies

 

[WoWfan]

Not who I was referring too, and it ain’t leeching when Lucy’s Taurus form ain’t the strongest spirit dress she got