Game Fan League Discussion Thread

[Kaoz]

Welcome to the general NPoT Fan League Discussion thread. Is this your first time here? Then you might need a short explanation of what this is all about to get you started. Briefly put, in this game you create teams of NPoT characters and go up against other teams.

Picking teams is very simple. Players take turns drafting from a list of characters and each character can only be chosen once. When this is done, the real season starts. Each round you go up against another player. Both players send a line-up to the host which includes the characters they want to put into the matches as well as special moves the characters are supposed to use. Once all line-ups have been submitted, the host calculates the winner based on the characters' stats and the boosts they receive through abilities, all of which you can find in the characters' profiles. Depending on the season, rounds are best of 5 or best of 3 matches, that means you need to win at least 3 or 2 matches respectively to be declared the overall winner of a round. The winner then receives 2 points on the leaderboard whereas the loser receives 0 points. Once all players have gone up against every other player once, the 4 players with the most points advance to the semi-finals. The semi-final winners participate in the finals and whoever comes out on top there becomes champion.

But rather than reading long-winded explanations, you might prefer seeing how it works in action. If so, check out one of the previous seasons to get an idea of the procedure:

Spoiler: Old Formats

First Fan League
Expanded Fan League
New Prince of Tennis Fan League
New Prince of Tennis Fan League S2
New Prince of Tennis Fan League S3

Season 1
Season 2
Season 2.5
Season 3
Season 4 - Ongoing

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Still confused about something? Then just post your questions in this thread. No worries, we promise it is not that complicated once you have understood the basics.

 

[Kaoz]

Just to keep things easier, here is a new thread for any character discussions regarding the league.

1. Niou:

V1:
Niou (7, 7, 7, 8, 29) 35
All-rounder

-Guess Who? [Effect]:
When playing Doubles, Niou can copy the Effects and Auras of his partner.

-Illusion [Effect]:
When playing Singles, Niou can choose one player and copy that player’s stats at minus -1 to each of those stat and one of that player’s Effects such that their bases stats do not exceed +7 of his own. If that Effect would add points to any of Niou’s stats, the points are not added instead.


V2:
Niou (7, 7, 7, 8, 29) 35
All-rounder

-Guess Who? [Effect]:
When playing Doubles, Niou can copy the Effects and Auras of his partner.

-Illusion [Effect]:
When playing Singles, Niou can choose one player and copy that player’s stats at minus -1 to each of those stat. Also Niou can copy one Effect OR Aura from the chosen player. If points were added through an Effect or Aura, minus 2 of that points are added instead.


Discuss, please.


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So, for the sake of simplicity, I decided to display all the changes that were either suggested or accepted but not yet done here:

Spoiler: suggested changes

Any suggestions for season 3 can be viewed here.

Spoiler: Accepted

All characters/mechanics that were acctepted are put in here.
When a character/mechanic remains in the suggestions spoiler without a comment, it will be moved here.

Season 2 Discussion


Please be aware that most of these changes are meant to be implemented in season 2. With this being said, according to the characters' new abilities, their base stats and/or value might change.

 

[javimgol]

V2 is joke
Come one, is the most broken thing I've ever seen in my life. He's almost as best as Ryoga and Kazuya, better than Irie and Oni...but costing half of the points

V1 is a true monster, and a bit broken, but it's Niou and everybody loves him

 

[Kaoz]

I don't want to press the matter but I'd like to set on a version one hour before we start picking. Is this alright?

 

[Jyten]

V2 is joke
Come one, is the most broken thing I've ever seen in my life. He's almost as best as Ryoga and Kazuya, better than Irie and Oni...but costing half of the points

V1 is a true monster, and a bit broken, but it's Niou and everybody loves him

V2 he can only copy up to Tachibana 25+7 = 32? Sorry we should have said the sum of his base stats cannot exceed 7 instead of just +7.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

How about....this v3?

-Illusion [Effect]:
-Illusion [Effect]:
When playing Singles, Niou can choose one player and copy that player’s stats at minus -1 to each of those stat. Also Niou can copy one Effect OR Aura from the chosen player.If that Effect would add points to any of Niou’s stats, the points are not added instead.

Can still copy auras, but can't get points from it.

 

[Jyten]

How about....this v3?



Can still copy auras, but can't get points from it.

We could do that. Plus we do need to make a decision here soon so...I'm up for anything now. Granted version one was way weaker...he could only get essentially a +3 to all his stats using his feat and then with an effect just a wee-bit more.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Or maybe v4:

-Illusion [Effect]:
-Illusion [Effect]:
When playing Singles, Niou can choose one player and copy that player’s stats at minus -1 to each of those stat. He cannot copy anyone stronger than Tezuka. Also Niou can copy one Effect OR Aura from the chosen player.If that Effect would add points to any of Niou’s stats, Niou only receives 75% of the increase.

I think that V4 is the most accurate, manga wise, and not too broken. But it's your game, you guys decide.

 

[Kaoz]

V3 would probably be the one that follows the manga the most so far.

Let's hear what everyone else has to say though. We still have about 18 hours to decide.


Are there any objections with Tezuka's new version of PoHW (or any other abilities)?

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Actually, we have no idea whether he could copy Sanada or Echizen but maybe we could agree on 50% of the points are added?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I think he could copy Sanada or Yukimura, since he mentioned in the OVA that "he wouldn't lose to either Sanada or Yukimura as long as he has his illusions" but...eh.

I think that Tezuka is a good place to draw the line, since that's the most advanced player we saw him copy. Also, I can agree on 50%.

It's your call.

Also, I think that Niou shouldn't get -1 in his stats when copying players weaker than him, right?

Like, say whoever had Niou got drunk and decided to make him copy Shinji. Would he be weaker than the real Shinji? That makes no sense lol.

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Also, Tezuka's ability is perfect, in my opinion. No need to nerf or make it more overpowered.

 

[Kaoz]

Hmm, that's right...

Maybe this:

V5
-Illusion [Effect]:
When playing Singles, Niou can choose one player and copy that player’s stats. If that player's base total exceeds Niou's by more than 20 points, all stats are acopied at minus -2. Also Niou can copy one Effect OR Aura from the chosen player. If that Effect would increase/decrease the stats of any player, only have the points are added/substracted.

 

[Jyten]

Hmm, that's right...

Maybe this:

V5
-Illusion [Effect]:
When playing Singles, Niou can choose one player and copy that player’s stats. If that player's base total exceeds Niou's by more than 20 points, all stats are acopied at minus -2. Also Niou can copy one Effect OR Aura from the chosen player. If that Effect would increase/decrease the stats of any player, only have the points are added/substracted.

Other than 20 being a bit high. I think it should be a number just in case we ACTUALLY GET A MATCH IN SHIN...but you know, at this rate it may never happen. Sorry I had to.

Do you mean 10 instead of 20? Other wise at 20 he can copy Irie and Oni...I don't think he can...

Also, Tezuka looks good!

 

[Kaoz]

No, he couldn't. Oni has abase total of 50 and Niou's is 29.
29+20=49 =>no copy

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

V5 looks good, but you have to word it a little better. You made it look like he can copy Tezuka and co perfectly. Which I'd love to, but I have to be fair >.>

Did you mean something like:

-Illusion [Effect]:
When playing Singles, Niou can choose one player and copy that player’s stats. If that player's base total exceeds Niou's by up to 10 points, all stats are copied at minus 1. If that player's base total exceeds Niou's by up to 20 points, all stats are copied at minus 2. Also Niou can copy one Effect OR Aura from the chosen player. If that Effect would increase/decrease the stats of any player, Niou only gets 60% of its original effect

That way, he can copy up to Atobe with -1 in all his stats, Tezuka up to Echizen with -2 in all his stats, and can copy techniques but in a not-so-broken kind of manner. I put 60% so that it's more effective than Muga no Kyochi, but not by much.

...Not sure if I ended up making him more broken trying to fix him though, so feel free to ignore me.

 

[Kaoz]

Nah, it looks pretty good, imo. Let's see what everyone else has to say on the matter.

Also, if someone finds any more abilities that he thinks should be changed, please note that no changes will be made in the time of picking.

 

[Jyten]

Nah, it looks pretty good, imo. Let's see what everyone else has to say on the matter.

Also, if someone finds any more abilities that he thinks should be changed, please note that no changes will be made in the time of picking.

I think he looks good and my ability to do math falters more and more as we go about the day. Second day back into work after the holiday's has been a bit brutal.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

About doubles:

Level 2:
Bonus: +4 points are added to the pair’s total, L1 and L2 Formations can be used

Preset Pairs: Kita/Nitobe; Momoshiro/Kaidoh; Koharu/Hitouji; Renji/Kirihara; Niou/Yagyuu; Kamio/Ibu; Gin/Kenya

Renji/Kirihara and Niou/Yagyuu should be level 3. None of them has ever lost in doubles, and they could DEFINITELY take on the Silver Pair. Still, I understand why the silver pair is lv 4.

But I think those 2 pairs should definitely be level 3.

Question, how many characters are we going to be allowed to pick tomorrow? Only one?

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Also, a question about pair levels.
Any character combinations not listed in there, are they assumed to be level 1?

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Also, why PM you instead of just posting on the topic? If we post it, we can keep track of what characters have already been picked, and that way we won't try to pick someone who has already been picked. You know, to speed things up.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

About doubles:Renji/Kirihara and Niou/Yagyuu should be level 3. None of them has ever lost in doubles, and they could DEFINITELY take on the Silver Pair. Still, I understand why the silver pair is lv 4.

I think Level 2 makes more sense, because neither of those are really 'normal' pairs. The higher levels should be for doubles pairs which play together all the time.

Also, why PM you instead of just posting on the topic? If we post it, we can keep track of what characters have already been picked, and that way we won't try to pick someone who has already been picked. You know, to speed things up.

Yeah, I think posting would probably work more quickly than PMing.

 

[Kaoz]

About doubles:


Renji/Kirihara and Niou/Yagyuu should be level 3. None of them has ever lost in doubles, and they could DEFINITELY take on the Silver Pair. Still, I understand why the silver pair is lv 4.

But I think those 2 pairs should definitely be level 3.

Question, how many characters are we going to be allowed to pick tomorrow? Only one?
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Also, a question about pair levels.
Any character combinations not listed in there, are they assumed to be level 1?
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Also, why PM you instead of just posting on the topic? If we post it, we can keep track of what characters have already been picked, and that way we won't try to pick someone who has already been picked. You know, to speed things up.

On Doubles, I agree with whatb Kuwabra said, that's the reaso they are only L2.

Every Pair, that is not listed has a level of 0.

To tell the truth, I just noticed I fucked up with the timezones and switched voicA and Ken with you guys. It shouldn't be too much of a problem though as we can still say:
"Player X chose Y minutes after the pick started."
It just takes slightly longer like that.

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To avoid double picking, I'll post the chosen characters in my first post alongside:
"chosen X minutes after pick started". I apologize for this and hope that we can do it nevertheless.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Yeah, no problem. Still don't understand why we can't just post the choices though.

*prepares pm with "Niou" on it*

I'm sending this as soon as the selection starts. I have a laptop and a wifi stick, so even though I'm going skating tomorrow, I'm still gonna be able to pick him! HA!

...I am overly competitive, aren't I?