Discussion Franky's upgrades

[hyper_megaman]

everything you said pretty much confirmed what i said...
besides the loss of limbs thing, you have to strengthen other parts of your body to be able to use a prosthetic limb
prosthetics would be BF36 - he replaced his torn destroyed body with metal
you're saying BF37 is an armor he walks into to be strong, and he leaves and then he's super weak again
hopefully he never leaves that armor on the ship when he gets into a pinch

yes, tony stark can't do crap, his ability is being really smart
all the power is in the armor, which is why there's a war machine and other enemies who just use armors...
the power's in the suit, not the person

and i dont know how much you'd need to pilot an exosuit, cause there's no such thing in real life to test it out

essentially, yes.

point is, he never leaves the armour. and i'm not saying armour per se. it could be extension upgrades/modifications, that he can choose to detach and go back to his old form the day he sees the need to.

he's not going to take it off for fun. there are stitches, which i'm sure will hurt when pulled out forcefully.

if tony stark were to design just iron man for the upper torso, and keep it on 24/7, since he can use it with his daily life anyway, would it matter if he had the ability to walk out of it or not?

 

[Turtle Pirate]

essentially, yes.

point is, he never leaves the armour.

if tony stark were to design just iron man for the upper torso, and keep it on 24/7, since he can use it with his daily life anyway, would it matter if he had the ability to walk out of it or not?

ok, i see that as weak

sure if he never leaves the armor then it doesn't really matter much, but tony stark will remain weak, iron man is the strong one

the case for franky and tony stark is different though. Tony stark can't turn himself into a cyborg, so he makes an armor to use.
Franky can, and has, turned himself into a cyborg. So why build an armor that you never leave if you can just turn your weak body into a powerful one and not have to worry about the ability to ever even return to that much of a weaker version of himself?

in your case - franky = weak - BF37 = Strong
mine - franky is BF37 so = strong

tony stark = weak, but brilliant - iron man = strong

 

[hyper_megaman]

Franky can, and has, turned himself into a cyborg. So why build an armor that you never leave if you can just turn your weak body into a powerful one and not have to worry about the ability to ever even return to that much of a weaker version of himself?

in case u haven't realised, if u were franky u would never want to live with this kind of body for the rest of ur life. he's vain and engrossed with aesthetics

and bf36 was never weak to begin with

i don't see how actually cutting off ur arm and attaching it even further out to make an ugly modification to ur body that is hard to reverse is actually more appealing than utilising what u already have and adding on further armour and extensions.


if the exosuit/prosthetics theory holds, bf37 is not just the armour. just as the thousand sunny is not the ship that sails around the world, though capable, until it has finished sailing

bf37 is essentially non-achievable without the suit, and designed for permanent use in conjunction with bf36 as an interrelated system, that cannot be used by others, or at least not easily. therefore if my theory holds, BF36+exosuit extensions could be the true bf37.

just like how the hulkbuster armour functions with the modular armour. hulkbuster is worthless alone, and u don't exactly need extra piloting skills to power it. it's just an extension of the already-powerful modular armour

also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeWT-fuUyEY

the moment u hear of the word 'exosuit' u begin to associate it with the common mecha stereotype of must-take-off-everyday huh. 'armour' means he must take it off every single day and only walk into it when he fights

your arguments are all invalid if he were to keep it on 24/7 for years on end. it becomes the equivalent of prosthetics, and upgrade extensions. start trying to wrap your mind around this, it's not that hard. try thinking of its own aspects instead of regurgitating what you've seen and basing everything on that convention.

it doesn't impede his daily life anyway, aside from looking clumsy/ugly, and he can even lift coke bottles delicately. i don't see the need for him to ever take it off, not unless huge damage occurs.

could be right, could be wrong, but i'm satisfied with this theory for now, and it's as plausible as yours imho. your arguments are based on stereotypical views of exosuit usage, nothing clever or fresh of your own.

can't wait to see his full power too, even if i get proven wrong. knowing oda, i would be gladly wrong when the time comes.


this is my theory for now.

 

[Turtle Pirate]

in case u haven't realised, if u were franky u would never want to live with this kind of body for the rest of ur life. he's vain and engrossed with aesthetics

and bf36 was never weak to begin with

i don't see how actually cutting off ur arm and attaching it even further out to make an ugly modification to ur body that is hard to reverse is actually more appealing than utilising what u already have and adding on further armour and extensions.


if the exosuit/prosthetics theory holds, bf37 is not just the armour. just as the thousand sunny is not the ship that sails around the world, though capable, until it was finished sailing

bf37 is essentially the suit, but designed for permanent use in conjunction with bf36 as an interrelated system, that cannot be used by others, or at least not easily.

just like how the hulkbuster armour functions with the modular armour. hulkbuster is worthless alone, and u don't exactly need extra piloting skills to power it. it's just an extension of the already-powerful modular armour

also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeWT-fuUyEY

the moment u hear of the word 'exosuit' u begin to associate it with the common mecha stereotype of must-take-off-everyday huh. 'armour' means he must take it off every single day and only walk into it when he fights

your arguments are all invalid if he were to keep it on 24/7 for years on end. it becomes the equivalent of prosthetics, and upgrade extensions. start trying to wrap your mind around this, it's not that hard. try thinking of its own aspects instead of regurgitating what you've seen and basing everything on that convention.

it doesn't impede his daily life anyway, aside from looking clumsy/ugly, and he can even lift coke bottles delicately. i don't see the need for him to ever take it off, not unless huge damage occurs.

could be right, could be wrong, but i'm satisfied with this theory for now, and it's as plausible as yours imho. your arguments are based on stereotypical views of exosuit usage, nothing clever or fresh of your own.

can't wait to see his full power too, even if i get proven wrong. knowing oda, i would be gladly wrong when the time comes.


this is my theory for now.

you haven't understood a single thing i've said kid

that's why i said i'm done

you're too stubborn to even think about what i'm saying

so i'll say this again
i'm done, you're not gonna give this up til you see otherwise, so just enjoy your "armor" idea

so don't ask me anymore questions, i told you quite plainly exactly what i thought in like two lines, and then even explained in vast detail, and you have failed to get my point
talk to someone else

 

[hyper_megaman]

you haven't understood a single thing i've said kid

that's why i said i'm done

you're too stubborn to even think about what i'm saying

so i'll say this again
i'm done, you're not gonna give this up til you see otherwise, so just enjoy your "armor" idea

so don't ask me anymore questions, i told you quite plainly exactly what i thought in like two lines, and then even explained in vast detail, and you have failed to get my point
talk to someone else

oh no i got your point, i just ignored it.

so now let me sum up what you said


'i don't want franky to be so because what would mean he is still weak. your theory is invalid because it would make franky weak in my opinion'

that's YOUR opinion, and here's mine.

chauvinistic much?

does it matter if he makes it permanent or if it's just prosthetics if it achieves the same results, same strength?

same results but with more versatility. essentially we have the same end-result idea, except you don't think he can do that one function my theory implies.


so if u think about it, my franky has the same abilities as yours, except he has the extra ability of detaching the exosuit one day if need be. so he's actually more powerful than yours. weak? only in your mind.



and me being stubborn? i've repeated countless times i could be right or wrong, but the possibility is there. and i would just want confirmation, whether or not i'm right.

you, on the other hand, came into my thread and said my idea was impossible, using your subjective reasoning as an absolute argument, and keep insisting other people's theories don't work except for your own.

stubborn? riiiiiight.

 

[Gourmamonster]

what's BA?

BA = Badass

 

[hyper_megaman]

BA = Badass

oo yes please


i wanna see franky around kuma level. maybe slightly deficit in durability/strength because kuma's newer vegapunk tech, but with added franky creativity

 

[Pipio]

What is the point in arguing over whether Franky's upgrades can be detached or not? Basically he can detach anything thats not his original body or attached to some important organs.

IMO Franky's ares look incredible stupid with the giant spheres on each shoulder and Cubes for forearms. I hope his arms are transformable.

Like someone said before.. 2yr old crack.

Which might actually make sense, Vegapunk the kid genius maybe designed something similar to bf-37 when 2 or 3 and thus the kid on crack (braincells) theory pans out.

 

[beastboy]

What know, Chopper, Zoro, Sanji, Usopp and Luffy will have an Exo-Suit too, and then Pirates Docking 6 will be complete and ubber powerfull!!

Wait, this was supposed to be super silly and idiot but I'm starting to like the idea!

 

[Spam286]

essentially, yes.

point is, he never leaves the armour.

If this is your argument why are you even arguing? He's still gonna look like that whether it's a suit or straight up upgrades.

in case u haven't realised, if u were franky u would never want to live with this kind of body for the rest of ur life. he's vain and engrossed with aesthetics

This may be true, but Franky has a very warped sense of what looks good. Remember he's the guy who walks around perpetually in speedos and a hawaiian shirt. I'd wager if I spent two years designing either a suit I was gonna spend all of my time in or upgrades to myself, either way I'd design it in a way I liked. Franky probably looks like that now because he thinks it looks good anyway.

Personally I like the new look. It's zany and interesting and outside the box, which is totally Franky's style.

 

[kkck]

I am just glad franky got his hair back lol.

 

[Gourmamonster]

I am just glad franky got his hair back lol.

Same here, but on the next page his hair is missing again!

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

I hope he can use lasers now. It would be great to see him destroying pirate or marine ships with them))

 

[Bhoot]

i have to say that Frankys new looks are not that good . Simply because he could have increased the size of his legs and feet . Right now he just looks out of proportion [i mean he is like a cone trying to balance himself on the tip] . Larger legs&feel would have turned him into a gorilla type cyborg thingy [which as per me would be very cool] . But right now atleast he got this hair back

 

[Izznoogood]

But still, its too wierd that he left scars on his body when we have seen him with no scars when he first rebuild himself, and im guessing he had way much more to work with i guess. And most offputting is the legs, what in the world has he done, if this is his true form, hehe. He went og a acid trip and jsut started upgrading himself is my guess.

And im of the hope its just a cyborg suit for adventure and battle. Does that body fit in the kitchen ect?

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Franky left scars on purpose. This is obviously for the new Franky Centaur.

 

[beastboy]

Well, of corse Franky fits in the sunny, the ship's inside is really big.
I just don't know if the net bed's will be enough for him to sleep.

 

[Deo_df]

sunny doesnt have net beds

franky is not iron man

the big balls on his shoulder are designed to compensate for the weakness of the shoulder joint. they look slightly silly, but very powerful at the same time. It would also allow for for rotation which human shoulders cant.

All the animal cyborgs had awesome vision things, so did the pacifistas, i want to know if franky has upgraded his vision???

i think he is at least as strong as a pacifista, remember water 7 when he fought luffy, luffy didnt kick his arse as expected, they were fairly close, luffy later unveils gear 2 & 3 and completely surpasses franky (not that they fought but it was obvious as it allowed him to beat cp9), but initially frankys battle capabilities were on par (more likely below) luffys. he would have seen at least an early blue print of a pacifista as well as knowing their capabilities so would have been aiming to be better than the pacifista, perhaps he fights one and just looses then upgrades again???

 

[cno]

I am one of those people who think Franky looks much improved, minus for still not wearing any pants.

I am looking forward to seeing what the actual upgrades are besides just his overall change in looks.

As for people questioning is size, I am sure that his legs will be able to extend in some way shape or form, The look at least they can open up and do something. Same for his chest.

 

[chess4]

so frankie has headlights for nipples and a rocket launcher is his let shoulder. cool, i still hope frankie back is still human flesh and his is not completely a robot.