Predictions Future Wano's Fight Matchups

[King Moe]

result of the fight :
Sanji vs Queen (sanji lost , another L)
Luffy vs Jack (luffy improved himself in CoA aspect and won)
Kidd vs Apoo (kidd won and improved himself)
Law vs King (law wins extreme-difficulty)
Zou Rulers and Ashura Douji vs Jack (ally team wins)
Franky vs Higher-Ups at Factories (franky wins)
Brook and Usopp vs Headliners (shp wins)
Robin and Nami vs Shogun's higher-ups (shp girls win)
Zoro and Okiku vs Orochi (Zoro okiku stomps , another W for zoro)
Samurai vs Yonko and Shogun's crew and soliders (samurai wins)
Luffy, Kidd, and Law vs Kaido (luffy team wins through extreme-difficulty)

Sanji vs Queen (Nah, Sanji been on Ws lately, he defeat Queen)
Luffy vs Jack (While Luffy will win, it be a struggle as Jack still has the most durability than anyone we ever seen, so it would be a struggle)
Kidd vs Apoo (I feel this be undecided to keep their rivalry, but might be a favor to Kidd, but no true defeat)
Law vs King (Would be like that for sure)
Zou Rulers and Ashura Douji vs Jack (They will, but again durability and attack power will be off-the-charts)
Franky vs Higher-Ups (Factories) (Yep, but struggle for him again though)
Brook and Usopp vs Headliners (Struggle win for both)
Robin and Nami vs Shogun's higher-ups (Women Power, but seriously their be struggle for this too)
Zoro and Okiku vs Orochi (Okiku gets development and do more in the fight and Zoro get the cheat spot victory. Once again disgrace Mihawk's name. First the nails now this. The Ls just don't stop.)
Samurai vs Yonko's and Shogun's crew and soilders (They will, but probably impact on both sides and barely win)
Luffy, Kidd, and Law vs Kaido (I agree on this style for sure)

Now let's get back ot focusing on Law since this is more center about for him.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

i think law might be going to fight orochi since orochi and law are both allies in the war.

 

[Brandish μ]

It might be a good time, at the end of Act II, to revive this thread for your thoughts on the future match ups.

We've reached a point where they're going in. The question is, is this the set up for the final battle, or the set up for a devastating L before the final battle? I prefer the latter because I don't feel the high stakes for the SH. I feel the stakes for team Kozuki. I see some determination in the SH. I don't feel like everything is on the line yet.

So the standard formula from Water 7 can be done again. Luffy loses (again) to Kaido, Zoro/Sanji lose to commanders, Brook and co lose to headliners/gifters; then all bounce back for the win.

What do you think?

 

[Shasha23]

It might be a good time, at the end of Act II, to revive this thread for your thoughts on the future match ups.

We've reached a point where they're going in. The question is, is this the set up for the final battle, or the set up for a devastating L before the final battle? I prefer the latter because I don't feel the high stakes for the SH. I feel the stakes for team Kozuki. I see some determination in the SH. I don't feel like everything is on the line yet.

So the standard formula from Water 7 can be done again. Luffy loses (again) to Kaido, Zoro/Sanji lose to commanders, Brook and co lose to headliners/gifters; then all bounce back for the win.

What do you think?

Yeah i can see that happening but some Strawhats are immune from defeats and i dont see them ever lossing, yeah i can see Luffy taking an L and maybe even Sanji, Franky and Chopper but because of that "ill never lose again" Zoro cant take an L from a swordsman and the YC are all swordsman.
Maybe if Kaido destroys Luffy and Zoro at the same time while the others fight to save them from being captured and end up losing too, that might work, but if it turns out like this the arc will drag on for a long time.

I agree on that its act 3 and the stakes dont feel as high yet, its like win or lose for the Strawhats its not that big of a deal unlike Momo and his men.

 

[King Moe]

Yeah i can see that happening but some Strawhats are immune from defeats and i dont see them ever lossing, yeah i can see Luffy taking an L and maybe even Sanji, Franky and Chopper but because of that "ill never lose again" Zoro cant take an L from a swordsman and the YC are all swordsman.
Maybe if Kaido destroys Luffy and Zoro at the same time while the others fight to save them from being captured and end up losing too, that might work, but if it turns out like this the arc will drag on for a long time.

I agree on that its act 3 and the stakes dont feel as high yet, its like win or lose for the Strawhats its not that big of a deal unlike Momo and his men.

He can. Zoro isn't free from losing from swordsman opponent. It be good development for Zoro especially thinking he could tame Enma easily when he shouldn't be that quickly. It got that glaring weakness, so don't think Zoro is incapable of losing. Plus dk know among his opponents are 'true' swordsman and can still lost to them. Wouldn't past it on Oda especially for their development including him.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 17, 2019, Original Post Date: Sep 17, 2019 ---

It might be a good time, at the end of Act II, to revive this thread for your thoughts on the future match ups.

We've reached a point where they're going in. The question is, is this the set up for the final battle, or the set up for a devastating L before the final battle? I prefer the latter because I don't feel the high stakes for the SH. I feel the stakes for team Kozuki. I see some determination in the SH. I don't feel like everything is on the line yet.

So the standard formula from Water 7 can be done again. Luffy loses (again) to Kaido, Zoro/Sanji lose to commanders, Brook and co lose to headliners/gifters; then all bounce back for the win.

What do you think?

Aww...Thanks for bring back my thread, Brandish. Also I agree either your statement it night go, but Oda could do twist about it especially remember Raleigh's words that tougher the battle, their Haki grow more especially fir Monster Trio, so I can see them pushing to their limits in their fight. Along with other surprises Oda has in stored.

 

[Futomimi]

Kidd vs Queen
Zoro vs King
Marco vs King
Zoro vs Kyoshiro
Sanji vs Perospero
Inurashi and Nekomamushi vs Jack
Nine Red Scabbards vs Ninjas
Ashura Douji and Kinemon vs Traitor
Law vs Scratchman
List of people I think will fight/lose to Kaidou/Big Mom
Ashura Douji
Kawamatsu
Kidd
Law
Zoro
Killer
Sanji
Luffy

Luffy and Kidd will be last standing (in finale not necessarily next act) and fight over who beat Kaido - Big Mom escapes

 

[Shasha23]

He can. Zoro isn't free from losing from swordsman opponent. It be good development for Zoro especially thinking he could tame Enma easily when he shouldn't be that quickly. It got that glaring weakness, so don't think Zoro is incapable of losing. Plus dk know among his opponents are 'true' swordsman and can still lost to them. Wouldn't past it on Oda especially for their development including him.

Zoro has never lost to a swordsman after his promise, this story is based on keeping promises and fate so NOPE Zoro will never lose in a swordfight!
Oda doesnt not break from his set rules for storytelling, unfortunately for you Zoro cant lose a sword fight ever.

 

[thedude]

The way this current chapter is going, with seemingly everyone on their way to Wano, all bets are off in terms of who will fight who.

 

[HereNThere]

So the standard formula from Water 7 can be done again. Luffy loses (again) to Kaido, Zoro/Sanji lose to commanders, Brook and co lose to headliners/gifters; then all bounce back for the win.

Nah, there are too many notable folks in the equation for that to be repeated. Unless the Scabbards and Big Mom's crew suddenly disappear or become super preoccupied with something, everyone is going to be spread out.

Aside from Luffy, I don't see any of the other Strawhats losing per se. I see them being distracted before their turn to fight. Zoro will probably scrap with Kyoshiro again trying to take down Orochi, but it won't be a full fight. Sanji, as usual, will probably be smitten with a girl (probably a Kunoichi or Smoothie) and that'll distract him until his fight. Everyone else will probably be various forms of captured and/or thrown off course before their fight.

 

[King Moe]

Zoro has never lost to a swordsman after his promise, this story is based on keeping promises and fate so NOPE Zoro will never lose in a swordfight!
Oda doesnt not break from his set rules for storytelling, unfortunately for you Zoro cant lose a sword fight ever.

Then it makes things too predictable and Gary Sue if he always win fights especially with swordsman. Oda won't go that route about him for this at all. Zoro can and still lose in this war as he won't be untouchable in there like the rest.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 19, 2019, Original Post Date: Sep 19, 2019 ---

Kidd vs Queen
Zoro vs King
Marco vs King
Zoro vs Kyoshiro
Sanji vs Perospero
Inurashi and Nekomamushi vs Jack
Nine Red Scabbards vs Ninjas
Ashura Douji and Kinemon vs Traitor
Law vs Scratchman
List of people I think will fight/lose to Kaidou/Big Mom
Ashura Douji
Kawamatsu
Kidd
Law
Zoro
Killer
Sanji
Luffy

Luffy and Kidd will be last standing (in finale not necessarily next act) and fight over who beat Kaido - Big Mom escapes

Nice list, but don't see Zoro back to back with two serious opponents like that as got be one or other. Given his fight performance, it be too over the top to beat both back to back. Sanji see him more facing Queen or King than Kidd since Kidd got more grudge with Kaido, so he might face someone else before Kaido too.

 

[Shasha23]

Then it makes things too predictable and Gary Sue if he always win fights especially with swordsman. Oda won't go that route about him for this at all. Zoro can and still lose in this war as he won't be untouchable in there like the rest.

Oda is doing that now, just because you dont like it doesnt make it fact!!
Last time Zoro lost a swordfight was in 1998, and since then he has not lost once.

 

[King Moe]

Oda is doing that now, just because you dont like it doesnt make it fact!!
Last time Zoro lost a swordfight was in 1998, and since then he has not lost once.

More the other around as given his past 4 fights have him looking bad, I won't put it over Oda to make him look bad again. Just you in denial about that.

Still can happen again and he isn't immune to losing at all. Got live with that.

 

[Shasha23]

More the other around as given his past 4 fights have him looking bad, I won't put it over Oda to make him look bad again. Just you in denial about that.

Still can happen again and he isn't immune to losing at all. Got live with that.

Yeah he is looking bad for you by winning OK moe-kun
You can hope and pray all you want but in 21 years he has not lost a fight so keep on praying but it wont come true

 

[King Moe]

Yeah he is looking bad for you by winning OK moe-kun
You can hope and pray all you want but in 21 years he has not lost a fight so keep on praying but it wont come true

Not that, I am using logic, not headcannon he will never use. Oda done it before, he can do it again. That's what you doing on denying on reality of situation and trying make him Gary Sue by saying that.

 

[Shasha23]

Not that, I am using logic, not headcannon he will never use. Oda done it before, he can do it again. That's what you doing on denying on reality of situation and trying make him Gary Sue by saying that.

in that 21 year time period when did Oda make him lose since you think you know, your logic is idiotic since it contradicts everything Oda has done for 22 years

 

[Fox666]

If Zoro has lost a fight?

- Buggy
- Mihawk
- Arlong
- Mr. 3 (unseen)
- Enel
- Moriah (unseen)
- Oars and Moriah
- Kuma
- The entire Strawhats crew was barely standing after defeating PX-4, definitely none of them could do it alone
- Kizaru
- And more recently Zoro had trouble with Kyoshiro...

A few of these are technically swordsmen. I would call his encounter with Kyoshiro a "defeat", even if they didn't ended the battle, Kyoshiro prevented Zoro from accomplishing his goal...

 

[nik87]

A few of these are technically swordsmen. I would call his encounter with Kyoshiro a "defeat", even if they didn't ended the battle, Kyoshiro prevented Zoro from accomplishing his goal...

Really? An unfinished clash, you count as Zoro's defeat as a swordsman?

 

[afromarco005]

I want to say 3 things:

1. Zoro wont lose a swordsfight until Mihawk and no amount of Moe "nails" and "faint" arguments will ever change that.
2. Our man Brooke needs to fight Apoo the battle of the musicians is too perfect an opportunity for Oda to miss. Make it a 2 v1 if needed but it needs to happen.
3. Robin needs a 1v1 fight (maybe vs the ninja boss after whooping all of his underlings asses) where she looks super cool and make use of her super versatile DF in imaginative ways.

that is all.

 

[King Moe]

in that 21 year time period when did Oda make him lose since you think you know, your logic is idiotic since it contradicts everything Oda has done for 22 years

Stop bashing just when you get counter. You always quick to do that.

Also you prove my point on your biased if your really saying Zoro never list a fight. What series you watching? There is a list of fights that he lost to before both pre-timeskip and post-timeskip.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 20, 2019, Original Post Date: Sep 20, 2019 ---

I want to say 3 things:

1. Zoro wont lose a swordsfight until Mihawk and no amount of Moe "nails" and "faint" arguments will ever change that.
2. Our man Brooke needs to fight Apoo the battle of the musicians is too perfect an opportunity for Oda to miss. Make it a 2 v1 if needed but it needs to happen.
3. Robin needs a 1v1 fight (maybe vs the ninja boss after whooping all of his underlings asses) where she looks super cool and make use of her super versatile DF in imaginative ways.

that is all.

1. It's not me, it's Oda on how he writes. We had 4 fights in Wano that made him look bad. Going thinking he is unstoppable is pure ignorance (Not insult, but saying in general saying) as Oda will give him struggles and perhaps loses here and there. It be boring if every fight is simple for him.

2. I can see that and be good point for Brook to be strong as a Supernova while others be more far above. Think Franky and Robin be apart of that too.

3. Could be with that leader of the Ninja Squad with giant head could be her opponent, but would like her beating T6H/Numbers to not fall behind as her final opponent. Be good progress for her.

 

[jaymizzo]

If Zoro has lost a fight?

- Buggy
- Mihawk
- Arlong
- Mr. 3 (unseen)
- Enel
- Moriah (unseen)
- Oars and Moriah
- Kuma
- The entire Strawhats crew was barely standing after defeating PX-4, definitely none of them could do it alone
- Kizaru
- And more recently Zoro had trouble with Kyoshiro...

A few of these are technically swordsmen. I would call his encounter with Kyoshiro a "defeat", even if they didn't ended the battle, Kyoshiro prevented Zoro from accomplishing his goal...

Not pure swordsmen but this is gold