Gear 2 vs. Gear 3

[Lohnt]

Re: Gear 2 vs. Gear 3 (latest chapters) - possible spoilers

I agree with that... Personally I don't see why Gear 3 is stronger than Gear 2. In battles, speed is more important than strength.. No use if you can hit hard but can't connects the punches. Perhaps, we'll see more of Gear 3 later on.. (I'm imagining Gear 3 punhing all that Buster Call ships away)

You have never watched a professional heavyweight boxing match have you? Speed is good, but if your one punch can knock the opponent out, it doesn't matter if he hits you once or a hundred time, all you need is a single punch.

 

[bax]

Re: Gear 2 vs. Gear 3 (latest chapters) - possible spoilers

You have never watched a professional heavyweight boxing match have you? Speed is good, but if your one punch can knock the opponent out, it doesn't matter if he hits you once or a hundred time, all you need is a single punch.

Nope, I dislike boxing. I believe Gear 2 is better judging from the usability and flexibility of it. I'll consider hanging my mind if I se Luffy upgrade his Gear 3 or at least put a better use of it in a fight. He only managed to connect one punch at Lucci using Gear 3, and it seems that it's out of surprises the punch connected...

Is it possible that Luffy could fill his bones with more then just air for gear 3? I mean Luffy could only store as much air as he can but could it be possible to put like water into it or maybe helium?

Water is understandable and still possible.... But where does Luffy gonna find Helium? Let alone how to put it inside his bones....

 

[Lohnt]

Re: Gear 2 vs. Gear 3 (latest chapters) - possible spoilers

It's simple really, think of it this way:
No gear - Lightweight - Lucci
Gear 2 - Middle weight - Leopard Lucci
Gear 3 - Heavy Weight

If a heavy weight hits a middle weight, it's like the middle weight has taken 5 direct punches simultaneously (explaining why Lucci was sent flying).
If a heavy weight hits a light weight it's like Luffy vs Bellamy, all it will take it one punch, despite Bellamy beating the crap out of Luffy and Luffy walking away.
If a middle weight hits a heavy weight it is impossible for him to take the heavy weight down in a couple of rounds, he will need the entire match, and that is IF he can even knock the heavy weight out. The Middle weight will constantly be faster than the heavy weight, but his hits won't have any impact, so eventually the middle weight will get tired, while the heavy weight (if he's smart and has conserved energy) is finally fast enough to punch him without him dodging and wins.
You don't have to watch boxing, just listen to the news about guys that go down after the FIRST PUNCH, literally, there are cases where the match starts, a single punch is thrown and lands and game over.

 

[Analog Fish]

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Water is understandable and still possible.... But where does Luffy gonna find Helium? Let alone how to put it inside his bones....

I was just throwing things in but think about it it is called Bone Balloon.

 

[kaiten]

Re: Gear 2 vs. Gear 3 (latest chapters) - possible spoilers

Wouldn't helium make him float?

 

[Lohnt]

Re: Gear 2 vs. Gear 3 (latest chapters) - possible spoilers

He can already float using fusen (baloon)...

 

[bax]

Re: Gear 2 vs. Gear 3 (latest chapters) - possible spoilers

Wouldn't helium make him float?

Why not give him plutonium instead... Jet Nuclear Gatling.... the end of OP...

Seriously, I don't think Luffy will use other than air... Because the big problem is how to insert other substance inside one's body just like that in a battle?

 

[teokun]

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I GO FOR GEAR 3RD!!

just imagine GIANT STORM!! >_<

i was dissapointed when Jet Storm isnt the finishing blow but the classic gatling

 

[Analog Fish]

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He looked like all he could pull off was Gatling at that moment and it must be more of a strain on the body to use the storm in Gear 2.

 

[DesiSkull]

Re: Gear 2 vs. Gear 3 (latest chapters) - possible spoilers

since he just started using G2 and G3. it is straining already. and eventually he will get used to it and it will come more natural to him. this is only the begining of the G2 and G3. we will see made improvements to it. and it will be interesting.

 

[Kratos]

Re: Gear 2 vs. Gear 3 (latest chapters) - possible spoilers

i think for close combat gear 2 is better but for example to destroy a ship gear 3 is way better

 

[Remus]

Re: Gear 2 vs. Gear 3 (latest chapters) - possible spoilers

Gear 2 definitely has some huge improvement but Gear 3 is just pure destruction. Cant really be compared and its also depending on the situation. Well maybe Luffy will master all Rokushiki as well.This would make him way above what he has been so far.

 

[KotenKiri]

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Luffy can already use Soru right? He uses it with his Gear 2 but Soru is the reason for Luffy's speed in Gear 2. Gear 2, seems to accelerate his attacks while Gear 3 just increase the mass.
Gear 2 seemed best for large battlefields while Gear 3 seems best for close quarters combat.

 

[Lohnt]

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Luffy understands how Soru works, he doesn't use Soru per say, he uses a variation of it.
The reason I say this is because Luffy's Soru (which he barely had time to practice) is faster than Blueno's which is completly illogical if Luffy's move is indeed a Soru technique.

As we see with Lucci, the most experienced Rokushin user, his Soru is also the fastest (encounter with Nero), thus experience and physical ability play a part in Soru.
Where as just learning how to be faster by starting off with Soru, and then just mixing it up to become even faster (kicking the ground 11 times instead of 10, 12 13 etc) it is no longer just Soru.

I don't want to see Luffy use Gear 2 all the time.. to be honest Gear 2 is going to turn OP into DBZ since we'll never see any characters during fights AGAIN
Chopper: Where did Luffy and Aokoji go?
Nami: I dunno they just dissapeared!
Sanji: Nope.. Nami SWAAAAAN! those two.. they're still here
Zoro: They're moving so fast that your eyes cannot keep up with them
Chopper: Sugoi!!!!
etc

 

[jeffhmwong]

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Wonder how many more gears will there be. O well, I think gear 3 was kinda crap. 2 was cool,real cool.

Sanji red leg was much cooler. BUT

Zoro Asura Was the champion. Woot..

 

[Vicil]

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Luffy understands how Soru works, he doesn't use Soru per say, he uses a variation of it.
The reason I say this is because Luffy's Soru (which he barely had time to practice) is faster than Blueno's which is completly illogical if Luffy's move is indeed a Soru technique.

As we see with Lucci, the most experienced Rokushin user, his Soru is also the fastest (encounter with Nero), thus experience and physical ability play a part in Soru.
Where as just learning how to be faster by starting off with Soru, and then just mixing it up to become even faster (kicking the ground 11 times instead of 10, 12 13 etc) it is no longer just Soru.

I don't want to see Luffy use Gear 2 all the time.. to be honest Gear 2 is going to turn OP into DBZ since we'll never see any characters during fights AGAIN
Chopper: Where did Luffy and Aokoji go?
Nami: I dunno they just dissapeared!
Sanji: Nope.. Nami SWAAAAAN! those two.. they're still here
Zoro: They're moving so fast that your eyes cannot keep up with them
Chopper: Sugoi!!!!
etc

Agreed. DBZ got so far away from it's roots and totally lost itself in power-levels. Thankfully, even though one-piece follows the same vein, the threat of an enemy isn't measured by their level of power alone; instead, a one-piece fight is about having unique powers, training to get the most out of them, and testing them against a completely different kind of enemy. It keeps the action fresh.

I'm actually looking forward more for how Luffy can handle some of the big fish that were introduced. Upping his speed and strength was fine for dealing with lucci, but power ups alone won't work as well against enemies like admiral iceman, and definetely not blackbeard. Seeing his new techniqeues is only half the fun, but how he uses them against new enemies will be awsome.

 

[hollowfied]

i was dissapointed when Jet Storm isnt the finishing blow but the classic gatling

Whats really teh difference between Storm and Gattling?

They seem like same attacks.

 

[Absolutio]

I think that storm always comes with a twisted balloon before it, launching luffy at the enemy, thus giving him momento+spin attacks, and maybe just larger/faster/stronger gattling generally.. =D
On topic: I think that in this arc Oda made clear of Gear 2 vs. Gear 3.. Luffy used gear 3 for a reason.. If the enemy is strong, yet has a low menurvability, gear 3 is the answer.. It has way more destruction power, but it doesn't make luffy's attacks faster.. Gear 2 does make luffy's attacks stronger, but not as strong as gear 3, but makes him also way faster.. So their usage depends on the situation (gear 2 against lucci, gear 3 against ozz).

 

[Imitorar]

Actually, Oz was very fast, since he was strong enough to use Soru. The reason Gear 3 worked was because Oz was restrained and weakened by the rest of the crew, so he couldn't move, and they needed to break his spine, so the extra strength boost of Gear 3 was needed, and it worked because the other Straw Hats restrained Oz. However, I most certainly agree with you that Gear 3rd is a bigger strength boost, but a drop in speed, and Gear 2 is a huge boost in speed, and a lesser boost in strength.

 

[Impel Down]

Gear 2nd doesn't give a real power boost, true, but the speed of the attack goes into it as well, because of just how fast it is. Like, it hits, and then the air hits with it because of the momentum.

Also, Gear 2nd allows more attacks to be given with it, like with GGN Jet Gattling Gun, that greatly increased the number of blows and the rate at which they happened, so it could be considered a "power increase".

At the same time, because Gear 3rd is so large, just shifting would wipe out a large number of enemies, so that could be considered a boost in speed because your attacks take effect instantly. Although, against a real opponent, this wouldn't work as well as a substitute for speed, but you get the idea.