Gon vs Killua

[kkck]

I think impression is the result of gon being a reinforcement type. Of course his nen would appear to pack a stronger punch so to speak. Killua and gon would have roughly the same amount of nen but in turn the way gon uses it with reinforcement would give the impression of it being in itself more potent.

 

[jorped]

And not quite so, since Killua can hump higher even when Gon focus all his Nen on his feet.

Couldn't that have to due with the fact that Gon isn't still as good as Killua using Nen ?

 

[Uriel]

Couldn't that have to due with the fact that Gon isn't still as good as Killua using Nen ?

Could be, I'm uncertain about it. I think they're both so weird in the world and have so much potential that we always measure them in the same level even if they had completely different training as kids.

Still they know the same about Nen. Maybe Killua is smarter and focused all his Nen in only one point to jump a bit higher :P

 

[kkck]

I always had the impression that -hatsu aside- gon and killua were roughly equal when it came to their overall nen skill. They have had the same nen formation and have been seen progressing at roughly the same rate for one thing. In turn killua has had a dramatically different, and in all likelyhood better, physical and combat training. Killua was trained to murder with highly advanced techniques from the moment he was born. He has been formally trained by top class fighters and nen users for as long as he could remember. Gon in turn was not trained like that, he got strong by training on his own and playing with the forest animals. Of course killua would jumo higher than gon, they have the same amount of nen and nen skill but in turn killua is physically more powerful than gon.

Even the hatsu bit would not necessarily be attributed to a difference in nen skill. Killua had an unnatural aptitude towards transforming his nen into electricity due to his upbringing. Once that is done, as killua said, the issue is putting the electricity to use.

 

[Netero]

As of right now I would have to lean towards Killua but if Gon could use his adult Hatsu ability I think he would beat Killua easily imo.

 

[kkck]

Well, yeah, if gon could use his adult form he would easily beat killua. The form comes with a dramatic increase in nen at the very least and his rock seems to actually be completed.... the form made short work of a royal guard, even the puppet after pitou died was not that much of an enemy (which should be even more powerful than regular pitou).

 

[Tombadgerlock]

Killua has more precision, Gon has more endurance. Killua has more strategy and has been tutored on tactics, Gon has more natural insight and guts.

In many ways, they enable each others- a good example would be the fight with Raizor, where Killua was shown having extreme precision when it came to aura reditribution, but gon was shown to have a ever-increasing tempo.

Also, 'amount' of nen comes in different ways. First is obviously the amount of nen in the aura. Second would be the amount of nen that can replace that (reserves), and third would be the amount of nen in a particular area of the body.

I'd say Gon is by far superior in the first two category, BUT Killua is not only far superior in the last one, but he doesn't need much if any 'prep time', or 'motivation' to fight ot his fullest. Gon gets much, much stronger against an actual enemy (Killua actually was the opposite for a while).

As for techniques- Killua had mainly two 'powerups' during the ant arc, if you discount the sheer base stat increase by biscuit's training. The first is taking off the needle, the second is Kanmaru.

Gon mostly improved (beyond base stat increase from biscuit) his jajanken, as well as his understanding on how to use it for the first part, but then improved his 'hated race' trait.

There is no telling how that one works yet.

 

[kkck]

I would actually question whether gon actually has more endurance than killua or that killua is more strategic. Has there been a time where killia has shown to be less resilient than gon? Killua has always been more phisically capable than gon due to his extreme upbringing, even if gon has had more chances to show off his endurance it is very likely because he is more reckless while fighting. As for strategy, I get the mild impression they are along the same lines but with different angles. Killua is more likely to have plan the entire battle or set up something complicated while gon is more the type to come up with things on the spot.

As for amount of nen, I can´t imagine gon having an advantage. Both of them have always trained together and to the same degree, even the last time they trained with bisk both of them could keep their ren up for roughly the same amount of time (meaning there is factual evidence that the amount of nen they have is at all points comparable). As for the amount of nen in a body part I also think it is rooughly the same. Only reason gon has an advantage here is that he is a reinforcement type thus the same amount of nen seems more powerful.

 

[Tombadgerlock]

I would actually question whether gon actually has more endurance than killua or that killua is more strategic. Has there been a time where killia has shown to be less resilient than gon? Killua has always been more phisically capable than gon due to his extreme upbringing, even if gon has had more chances to show off his endurance it is very likely because he is more reckless while fighting.

The endurance angle comes mostly from seeing that Gon gets stronger as the fight goes on (he is constantly preping), and that from the comments of a few characters it seems he is slightly better at it.

As for strategy, I get the mild impression they are along the same lines but with different angles. Killua is more likely to have plan the entire battle or set up something complicated while gon is more the type to come up with things on the spot.

yes, this is strategy and tactic. Two completely different things.

As for amount of nen, I can´t imagine gon having an advantage. Both of them have always trained together and to the same degree, even the last time they trained with bisk both of them could keep their ren up for roughly the same amount of time (meaning there is factual evidence that the amount of nen they have is at all points comparable). As for the amount of nen in a body part I also think it is rooughly the same. Only reason gon has an advantage here is that he is a reinforcement type thus the same amount of nen seems more powerful.

actually, Killua has an advantage there instead because his base body stat is still quite a bit better, and has Nen is a multiplier he has a slight advantage.

But gon has either a slightly bigger amount of Aura, or else Gon constantly use attacks that use more than his current maximum aura, while Killua... doesn't.

 

[kkck]

Killua´s nen attacks for the most part actually burn most if not all of his aura. His electric palm dried him up against gensuru´s friend, kanmuru is good for a good 8 hits (literally lol). Killua basically uses his aura a lot faster than gon. Gon uses reinforcement, his techniques do not require exceptionally large amounts of aura and the only reason that he actually seems to overuse his aura is that his enemies constantly seem impressed by his reinforced punches. Gon and killua´s training suggests that the two of them have similar amounts of total nen and aura.

 

[Tombadgerlock]

Killua´s nen attacks for the most part actually burn most if not all of his aura. His electric palm dried him up against gensuru´s friend, kanmuru is good for a good 8 hits (literally lol). Killua basically uses his aura a lot faster than gon. Gon uses reinforcement, his techniques do not require exceptionally large amounts of aura and the only reason that he actually seems to overuse his aura is that his enemies constantly seem impressed by his reinforced punches. Gon and killua´s training suggests that the two of them have similar amounts of total nen and aura.

No, Killua use-up his ready-transformed aura, not his aura itself.

Gon, however, has attacks that are greatly stronger than his maximum aura output.

 

[kkck]

I am not very sure as to what you mean with the first line...

Now, based on the nen explanations we have seen in the manga, does it make sense for gon to be able to use attacks with more nen than what he can output? Nen works with very strict rules, more so than in most other mangas with similar concepts, in this regard gon´s attacks simply cannot be stronger than his aura output. I will say it again, gon uses reinforcement hence why he would appear to have more nen, at least that is how I see it.

 

[Tombadgerlock]

I am not very sure as to what you mean with the first line...

Now, based on the nen explanations we have seen in the manga, does it make sense for gon to be able to use attacks with more nen than what he can output? Nen works with very strict rules, more so than in most other mangas with similar concepts, in this regard gon´s attacks simply cannot be stronger than his aura output. I will say it again, gon uses reinforcement hence why he would appear to have more nen, at least that is how I see it.

Gon uses more nen that he can output in his jajanken because of his 'belief/atachment/etc' in it, as well as is ridiculous way of doing it.

It's explicitely shown in the knuckle fight- Gon's aura output is something like 1000, and jajanken 3000.

Edit: http://www.tenmanga.com/chapter/HunterXHunter211/153411-5.html <= my numbers were a bit off, but you get the gist.