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Didn't Ignia say in chapter that humans can't damage the labyrinth? Suzaku and Natsu that they have attack power far higher to Wendy's feats are not capable of causing damage to walls.

So the scene against Haku was just a matter of drawing. There was no comment from Irene or any other characters about Wendy damaging the maze.
I wouldn't put what he said as true since he did not see Wendy fight, and we have visual evidence of the ground being damaged by Wendy's Sky Drill, it was a more important matter of Wendy getting stronger than last time which is an elevation of her strength. Besides, Dragon Slayers are stated to not be totally human since Edolas.
 

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I wouldn't put what he said as true since he did not see Wendy fight, and we have visual evidence of the ground being damaged by Wendy's Sky Drill, it was a more important matter of Wendy getting stronger than last time which is an elevation of her strength. Besides, Dragon Slayers are stated to not be totally human since Edolas.
Wendy doesn't have the power level to produce attacks higher to Natsu and Suzaku. Suzaku injured Selene, and and he managed to match himself in a battle against her in his human form. The same Suzaku who can't damage the labyrinth.

If Suzaku is vastly superior to Wendy in every way and can't damage this labyrinth, why would Wendy be able to? She's gotten stronger, but that's not to say that the potency of her attacks surpasses Natsu and Suzaku in that aspect.

And Ignia was referring to Natsu and Suzaku who are Dragon Slayers just like Wendy.

Be honest, why would Wendy be able to damage the maze when she is so much inferior to Natsu and Suzaku?
* Ignia says humans cannot damage to the labyrinth.
* Hiro makes Ignia melt the walls just for Natsu and Suzaku to be amazed at the power level of a Dragon God.
* Irene and Lily didn't comment on Wendy damaging the maze. Hiro didn't use this artifice to exalt Wendy.

The result of this says that the scene was just a matter of design of the scenery. Just it.
 
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Wendy doesn't have the power level to produce attacks higher to Natsu and Suzaku. Suzaku injured Selene, and and he managed to match himself in a battle against her in his human form. The same Suzaku who can't damage the labyrinth.

If Suzaku is vastly superior to Wendy in every way and can't damage this labyrinth, why would Wendy be able to? She's gotten stronger, but that's not to say that the potency of her attacks surpasses Natsu and Suzaku in that aspect.

And Ignia was referring to Natsu and Suzaku who are Dragon Slayers just like Wendy.

Be honest, why would Wendy be able to damage the maze when she is so much inferior to Natsu and Suzaku?
* Ignia says humans cannot damage to the labyrinth.
* Hiro makes Ignia melt the walls just for Natsu and Suzaku to be amazed at the power level of a Dragon God.
* Irene and Lily didn't comment on Wendy damaging the maze. Hiro didn't use this artifice to exalt Wendy.

The result of this says that the scene was just a matter of design of the scenery. Just it.
Until Natsu and/or Suzaku produce said energy, Wendy would have a higher stat, Selene likely tricked Suzaku at this point since Ignia could melt the wall, the same material that Wendy could break, nothing says that other characters can't surpass even main characters. which Natsu and Suzaku are not human as stated since early in the series, what makes you think Wendy can't match them at this point? even hidden potential Wendy overwhelmed Erza back then. again DS are not truly human, Natsu was in base at the time, Why would they? they did not try to damage the walls or floor to see if that would get out so they wouldn't know anyway.
 

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Until Natsu and/or Suzaku produce said energy, Wendy would have a higher stat, Selene likely tricked Suzaku at this point since Ignia could melt the wall, the same material that Wendy could break, nothing says that other characters can't surpass even main characters. which Natsu and Suzaku are not human as stated since early in the series, what makes you think Wendy can't match them at this point? even hidden potential Wendy overwhelmed Erza back then. again DS are not truly human, Natsu was in base at the time, Why would they? they did not try to damage the walls or floor to see if that would get out so they wouldn't know anyway.
WTF

Wendy Belserion was ragdolling Erza because she didn't wanted to hurt Wendy's body.

So you're implying that Wendy would defeat Human Selene or even be a match to her?? That's reaching it dude:yodawg
 
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It's still a spanking, the wank is getting ridiculous.

We went from Wendy calling herself weak and overconfident, getting oneshotted by Kyria, beaten up by base Nebal, losing to that yokai girl almost instantly (getting called weak again), Haku (10 year old) taking her roar on purpose without any damage because he doesn't care... to Wendy defeating Gray. How is that? In a single move: Wendy enchants Haku's plushies and lands her finishing move, which suddenly works, because Haku was a fodder with hax like many others before (and many after) him. But for some Wendywankers, this single move negates everything up there.

By the way, Haku didn't just tank Wendy's roar, he tanked Wendy's Irene powered roar, vastly more powerful than Wendy's (enough to surprise Lily). Irene herself being stronger than Wendy at "1%", it's no surprise. This clearly shows that Wendy, even when powered up by Irene, isn't shit and this was just a hax fight. But sure, you can wank her for "having defeated a black dragon eater" while Natsu is struggling with one (and lost to him the first time alongside Erza), only to disappear in 20 chapters or so when she gets oneshotted or fodderized by the next mid-high tier enemy that doesn't do hax for her to un-hax. But in the meantime I guess she's > to Natsu and Erza, lol.
 

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She is stronger than them individually
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WTF

Wendy Belserion was ragdolling Erza because she didn't wanted to hurt Wendy's body.

So you're implying that Wendy would defeat Human Selene or even be a match to her?? That's reaching it dude:yodawg
Erza was going in for direct blows against Wendy while Irene possessed her in hopes that would get her out, it wasn’t until the last Moment that Erza stopped and was practically Near defeated until Wendy intervened as Wendy. Hey, I don’t draw the story, hiro does, if he showed Wendy capable of breaking something that even Suzaku can’t then she would be above him there.
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It's still a spanking, the wank is getting ridiculous.

We went from Wendy calling herself weak and overconfident, getting oneshotted by Kyria, beaten up by base Nebal, losing to that yokai girl almost instantly (getting called weak again), Haku (10 year old) taking her roar on purpose without any damage because he doesn't care... to Wendy defeating Gray. How is that? In a single move: Wendy enchants Haku's plushies and lands her finishing move, which suddenly works, because Haku was a fodder with hax like many others before (and many after) him. But for some Wendywankers, this single move negates everything up there.

By the way, Haku didn't just tank Wendy's roar, he tanked Wendy's Irene powered roar, vastly more powerful than Wendy's (enough to surprise Lily). Irene herself being stronger than Wendy at "1%", it's no surprise. This clearly shows that Wendy, even when powered up by Irene, isn't shit and this was just a hax fight. But sure, you can wank her for "having defeated a black dragon eater" while Natsu is struggling with one (and lost to him the first time alongside Erza), only to disappear in 20 chapters or so when she gets oneshotted or fodderized by the next mid-high tier enemy that doesn't do hax for her to un-hax. But in the meantime I guess she's > to Natsu and Erza, lol.
Correction, Wendy was weaker than she was now and was in base when Kyria defeated her, not at her best, Nebal was stronger with DF, Yokai girl uses different power that are incompatible and took out both Erza and Wendy, when Wendy enchanted Spirit arts, Erza defeated Yokai girl. there you contradict yourself, Haku tanked Wendy’s stronger roar which showed he is not physically weak, it was also Wendy’s own power, Irene just helped unlock it.
 

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Until Natsu and/or Suzaku produce said energy, Wendy would have a higher stat, Selene likely tricked Suzaku at this point since Ignia could melt the wall, the same material that Wendy could break, nothing says that other characters can't surpass even main characters. which Natsu and Suzaku are not human as stated since early in the series, what makes you think Wendy can't match them at this point? even hidden potential Wendy overwhelmed Erza back then. again DS are not truly human, Natsu was in base at the time, Why would they? they did not try to damage the walls or floor to see if that would get out so they wouldn't know anyway.
Sorry, but if you think Wendy is stronger than Natsu and Suzaku or if want to come close to their power level, I won't continue this discussion.

And Ignia is a Dragon God, melting the walls is expected for his power level, as the creator of the labyrinth was also a Dragon God. But weaker than Ignia.

Wendy Belserion only injured Erza because the redhead didn't want to hurt Wendy's body. Erza could have destroyed Wendy with no difficulty in Alvarez.

And you can't assume Selene was lying without the manga stating it. For now, Suzaku = Selene's human form.

Natsu set fire to the place and did no damage to the walls. Suzaku is unable to cut through the walls to escape the enclosed space, which Natsu is using to his advantage in the fight.

And I don't know if you're forgetting, but Ignia put Natsu and Suzaku as humans. He was referring to the two as well, and they are Dragon Slayers.

Anyway, I'm getting out of this discussion. I find it extremely ridiculous to consider Wendy to be on the same level as Natsu, Erza, Laxus, Suzaku.
 

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Sorry, but if you think Wendy is stronger than Natsu and Suzaku or if want to come close to their power level, I won't continue this discussion.

And Ignia is a Dragon God, melting the walls is expected for his power level, as the creator of the labyrinth was also a Dragon God. But weaker than Ignia.

Wendy Belserion only injured Erza because the redhead didn't want to hurt Wendy's body. Erza could have destroyed Wendy with no difficulty in Alvarez.

And you can't assume Selene was lying without the manga stating it. For now, Suzaku = Selene's human form.

Natsu set fire to the place and did no damage to the walls. Suzaku is unable to cut through the walls to escape the enclosed space, which Natsu is using to his advantage in the fight.

And I don't know if you're forgetting, but Ignia put Natsu and Suzaku as humans. He was referring to the two as well, and they are Dragon Slayers.

Anyway, I'm getting out of this discussion. I find it extremely ridiculous to consider Wendy to be on the same level as Natsu, Erza, Laxus, Suzaku.
Well Wendy can break the floor of the labyrinth too, and one would expect that Suzaku would be able to break it too since this DG is weaker. That is not true as Erza went in for direct attack against Wendy possessed by Irene to try and get her out, it wasn't till the very last moment that Erza officially stopped attacking and that was when Wendy was about to finish her off before Wendy as Irene intervened. and yet Ignia's human form melted the walls while Suzaku could not even scratch it, so there is falsehood in Selene's words. really that was only one moment where that happened with confined space, Ignia only used them as humans because that is what they look like but means little since it is stated that they are not truly humans and that Ignia Wants to fight Natsu when he gets stronger, so it is reference to strength, not species, Well Wendy with her potential is stronger than Erza already and considering that Irene's power was necessary to save Erza from Wendy then is proof enough.
 
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Rofl,now Wendy is even below Team Rocket Trio 🤡
I thought you were speaking of Thunder Legion lol.

Wendy can't defeat Madmole. FDKM >>>>>>>>>>> Sky Drill.

She might be able to defeat Skullion because she can blow his ashes away but Kyria one-shots again until you give me reasonable argument on Wendy defeating her.
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Erza was going in for direct blows against Wendy while Irene possessed her in hopes that would get her out, it wasn’t until the last Moment that Erza stopped and was practically Near defeated until Wendy intervened as Wendy. Hey, I don’t draw the story, hiro does, if he showed Wendy capable of breaking something that even Suzaku can’t then she would be above him there.
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Correction, Wendy was weaker than she was now and was in base when Kyria defeated her, not at her best, Nebal was stronger with DF, Yokai girl uses different power that are incompatible and took out both Erza and Wendy, when Wendy enchanted Spirit arts, Erza defeated Yokai girl. there you contradict yourself, Haku tanked Wendy’s stronger roar which showed he is not physically weak, it was also Wendy’s own power, Irene just helped unlock it.
Kyria casually dodged a DF punch lol
 

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Didn't Ignia say in chapter that humans can't damage the labyrinth? Suzaku and Natsu that they have attack power far higher to Wendy's feats are not capable of causing damage to walls.

So the scene against Haku was just a matter of drawing. There was no comment from Irene or any other characters about Wendy damaging the maze.
Wendy is secretly a dragon..😆😆😆😆
 

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He may have been smitten by Wendy, but he himself said he could not afford to lose as he would miss a chance to go on a date with her, so he had to use strength to win which involved the plushies or even exchanging fists, and even said he gotten serious. Not being turned into a plushie is not a type advantage, it is a counter to his hax, which didn’t include all of his spells, Irene did that, he basically did hurt her by sending her flying with a punch or holding her down with plushies, type advantage is her being unaffected by air based attacks.
Sure, the strength to win without hurting her. Strength that was actually turned against him due to type advantage.

Sure, but his magic had no effect on her. A fire mage could always just punch Natsu to win the fight, they're still at a disadvantage though because their magic doesn't work.
Nah, the wind just blew some rocks around.

He did not at all. Not once was there shown actual structural damage like Wendy did as shown with chunks of rocks coming directly from the ground.

Like I said, it was shown visually that he shattered a part of the floor. It wasn't just specks of white stuff here and there thrown up lol. You actually have zero proof to say there was no structural damage since we never saw the entire room Lily and Wendy were in to say so and we never saw where Haku landed as well lol. While Natsu and Suzaku both admitted to not being able to do so.

Suzaku and Natsu both failed to damage the Labyrinth at all. Not once was their a visual chunk of it actually being destroyed like with Wendy's Sky Drill. So again, the feats are not comparable. you have to be blind to ignore the direct showing of actual damage.

Also, I have to laugh at the fact you admit there was debris but somehow made some illogical excuse as to why it was there. How is it regular debris when it was torn directly from the ground of the labyrinth???? Since when were there even shown to be any sort of regular floor or rocks in the labyrinth in the first place??? It was literally stated that all the walls, ceiling, and floors are apart of the labyrinth.

She showed she destroyed the Labyrinth's floor directly on panel so she did it, point blank. This copium levels of debating. Not once was there a statement tht she did not destroy the floor. Not once has Haku been stated to be a BDSK bcs of stats and not once has he shown to be weak in them. There is also the fact that hax was never ever a factor for being a BDSK as well otherwise Wraith/Kiria would have been enlisted among them for their hax.And also Wendy wasn't the perfect counter for since him still could still use his stats and magic to fight back.

Make it make sense. You guys are grasping at straws at this point :facepalm
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Not once was there shown structural damage from Wendys's attack either. You see the floor afterwards, it's in pristine condition, you see it when Lily picks up Wendy. All she did was blow some rocks around.
Oh and it's not up to me to prove there was structural damage, it's up to you. You've shown no damaged structure. The manga makes no note of damaged structure like it did with Ignia. By default, Wendy did nothing.

Nothing illogical about it. It's a rocky room that's constantly changing. The floor will literally break apart on it's own lmao.

So? Not once has Neinhart been stated to be a spriggan because of hax, does that mean his physicals are as good as God Serena's? Not once has Caprico been stated only Seven Kin level because of hax, does that mean Lucy was more powerful than both Natsu and Gajeel for soloing him with a single spirit? No, obviously not, because Lucy had circumstances in her favor, while Natsu and Gajeel took their opponents head on. This is obviously the case, anyone with a brain could tell you that.

Grasping at straws lol, from the guy trying to claim Wendy>Natsu. You're wanking Wendy and giving her feats she doesn't have, plain and simple. It's like trying to say Tenrou Lucy>Natsu, ridiculous, dumb, hardly even believable that anyone would argue it.
 

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Sure, the strength to win without hurting her. Strength that was actually turned against him due to type advantage.

Sure, but his magic had no effect on her. A fire mage could always just punch Natsu to win the fight, they're still at a disadvantage though because their magic doesn't work.

Nah, the wind just blew some rocks around.


Not once was there shown structural damage from Wendys's attack either. You see the floor afterwards, it's in pristine condition, you see it when Lily picks up Wendy. All she did was blow some rocks around.
Oh and it's not up to me to prove there was structural damage, it's up to you. You've shown no damaged structure. The manga makes no note of damaged structure like it did with Ignia. By default, Wendy did nothing.

Nothing illogical about it. It's a rocky room that's constantly changing. The floor will literally break apart on it's own lmao.

So? Not once has Neinhart been stated to be a spriggan because of hax, does that mean his physicals are as good as God Serena's? Not once has Caprico been stated only Seven Kin level because of hax, does that mean Lucy was more powerful than both Natsu and Gajeel for soloing him with a single spirit? No, obviously not, because Lucy had circumstances in her favor, while Natsu and Gajeel took their opponents head on. This is obviously the case, anyone with a brain could tell you that.

Grasping at straws lol, from the guy trying to claim Wendy>Natsu. You're wanking Wendy and giving her feats she doesn't have, plain and simple. It's like trying to say Tenrou Lucy>Natsu, ridiculous, dumb, hardly even believable that anyone would argue it.
That is not type advantage it was just Irene possessing the plushies, not how that works, as Wendy has to consciously case the spell to counter his own, it is not like her slayer type advantage of air. Sure you can physically damage the slayer even though your element is bad match up but you have to be physically stronger, case in point Laxus vs Orga. There were no rocks around as they were fragmented from the floor Itself.
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I thought you were speaking of Thunder Legion lol.

Wendy can't defeat Madmole. FDKM >>>>>>>>>>> Sky Drill.

She might be able to defeat Skullion because she can blow his ashes away but Kyria one-shots again until you give me reasonable argument on Wendy defeating her.
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Kyria casually dodged a DF punch lol
That only shows that Kyria would be physically weak against Wendy’s DF if she had to dodge it.
 

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That is not type advantage it was just Irene possessing the plushies, not how that works, as Wendy has to consciously case the spell to counter his own, it is not like her slayer type advantage of air. Sure you can physically damage the slayer even though your element is bad match up but you have to be physically stronger, case in point Laxus vs Orga. There were no rocks around as they were fragmented from the floor Itself.
Yeah, and her "just possessing the plushies" saved Wendy from defeat and bound Haku for the victory.
Well it is how it works, Wendy didn't cast the spell to possess the plushies, it happened entirely without her consent.
Yes, exactly. Haku was simply a bad match up for Wendy, which means his only option was physicals, because his magic didn't work. But there's the rub, he actually doesn't want to hurt her. Like I said, it's simply a good matchup for Wendy. It doesn't make her any more powerful than Gray, than Lucy beating Caprico in Tenrou made her more powerful than Gajeel. It's just a good matchup, with useful circumstances in her favor.
 

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Yeah, and her "just possessing the plushies" saved Wendy from defeat and bound Haku for the victory.
Well it is how it works, Wendy didn't cast the spell to possess the plushies, it happened entirely without her consent.
Yes, exactly. Haku was simply a bad match up for Wendy, which means his only option was physicals, because his magic didn't work. But there's the rub, he actually doesn't want to hurt her. Like I said, it's simply a good matchup for Wendy. It doesn't make her any more powerful than Gray, than Lucy beating Caprico in Tenrou made her more powerful than Gajeel. It's just a good matchup, with useful circumstances in her favor.
And it was Irene who cast the spell anyway, not a bad match up as he had no air magic, he just did Not have the mind set on hurting Wendy but restraining her to win, his magic did work a couple times, it is a matter of Wendy consciously doing it, especially when he blitz her the first time, and when his plushies held her down. That’s the point, not in magic but in mindset. She is already more powerful since her magic was stronger than before. Lucy never beat capricorn in Tenrou, Gajeel did not show any feats against DDK level characters, and even was nervous around them, those circumstances being mainly mindset
 

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"Wendy hits leagues harder than RL Laxus and FDKM Natsu. Look at these rocks!"

Natsu and Suzaku against the Labyrinth:

Wendy against the Labyrinth:

You:


Bonus:
Gray getting fodderize by Skullion who is fodder to the BDSK:


Wendy mid diffing a BDSK:

You thinking Gray wins:
 

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>Wendy defeats a DDSK
>Graystans: Like i care,shit feat
>Also Graystans: Getting trashed by Skullion is a better feat as defeating a DDSK


Wendy neg-diffs the Icenerd
 

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Sure, the strength to win without hurting her. Strength that was actually turned against him due to type advantage.

Sure, but his magic had no effect on her. A fire mage could always just punch Natsu to win the fight, they're still at a disadvantage though because their magic doesn't work.

Nah, the wind just blew some rocks around.


Not once was there shown structural damage from Wendys's attack either. You see the floor afterwards, it's in pristine condition, you see it when Lily picks up Wendy. All she did was blow some rocks around.
Oh and it's not up to me to prove there was structural damage, it's up to you. You've shown no damaged structure. The manga makes no note of damaged structure like it did with Ignia. By default, Wendy did nothing.

Nothing illogical about it. It's a rocky room that's constantly changing. The floor will literally break apart on it's own lmao.

So? Not once has Neinhart been stated to be a spriggan because of hax, does that mean his physicals are as good as God Serena's? Not once has Caprico been stated only Seven Kin level because of hax, does that mean Lucy was more powerful than both Natsu and Gajeel for soloing him with a single spirit? No, obviously not, because Lucy had circumstances in her favor, while Natsu and Gajeel took their opponents head on. This is obviously the case, anyone with a brain could tell you that.

Grasping at straws lol, from the guy trying to claim Wendy>Natsu. You're wanking Wendy and giving her feats she doesn't have, plain and simple. It's like trying to say Tenrou Lucy>Natsu, ridiculous, dumb, hardly even believable that anyone would argue it.
We don't know where Haku fell, you forget he was in mid air and was hit at an angel? You act like Sky Drill made a crater throughout the entire room lol. I already proved with visual showing she destroyed the ground. You have to prove where there was no structural damage shown throughout the entire room. Like I said you don't know where Haku landed after he was hit in mid air so it's up to you to prove there was no crater in the room. Bcs again we already saw the damage from Sky Drill on panel. Bcs the fight was over? Why would there be a note of it when no one is there but Lily and Wendy, both who give zero shit about the Labyrinth's structure? You act like they are gonna give a play by play every time something big happens. They literally glossed over a BDSK getting beat. 🤣

Neinheart was a S12 bcs of his magic power not his hax or strength. Literally all the S12 were given the title bcs they were all equal (except the top 2) in magic power. It had nothing to do with stats or hax so the point is moot. Loke was stronger than Gajeel for going toe to toe with 7kin while he got beat by people who legit stated they were fodder to them. Loke while not using Lucy's magic, still relied on Capricorn in that fight as well. Natsu only had a problem with Zancrow bcs Zancrow legit hard counter him. He had no trouble fighting against other 7kin and then went on to take Hades so his feats were still as good or better than Lucy's and Loke's in that arc. Can you show me a feat that puts Gray on the level of a BDSK who are admitted to be the top dogs of the guild by the person who fodderized Gray.

You are grasping at straws. You now shifted the argument to Tenrou Lucy bcs you have no argument against Wendy be portrayed at a high tier status. I don't want to hear this from a guy who thinks Gray > Wendy when Gray was almost put six feet under by a guy who is fodder to a BDSK and Gray has consistently been portrayed to be weaker than Skullion. It's nothing like that since Tenrou Natsu has feats on the level or better than Tenrou Lucy. Why you acting like Tenrou Lucy or Loke was some weakling during that era? She was no Laxus or Erza but she held her own numerous times against people who could hurt or beat up the like Gray and Gajeel lol. So again your point is moot. You have no actual proof to say Wendy is weak when it's been consistently portrayed that Wendy is a high tier level adversary lol. And again I have on panel feats as factual evidence and you have what? Oh your own speculation of events lol. Your own preconceived notion of Haku's PL that has no actual facts to support said notion. Nothing in the manga stated his stats were weak, and nothing in the manga stated hax was the reason he was a DG. Instead Haku boasted about his stats and hax users like Kiria and Wraith were still below the BDSK despite having hax that took out BDSK level opponents.

Legit nothing from the opposition to prove that Haku had weak stats except the fact they can't grasp Wendy is simply just that powerful now. Wendy can continue to best opponents that can hurt or take out the likes of Natsu, Laxus or Erza and still be put below the likes of Gray bcs you guys can't accept the facts presented in the manga. :facepalm
 

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>Wendy defeats a DDSK
>Graystans: Like i care,shit feat
>Also Graystans: Getting trashed by Skullion is a better feat as defeating a DDSK


Wendy neg-diffs the Icenerd
Quite a remarkable feat to defeat a child who was holding back against you bcs he had a crush and against who you were the perfect counter.

This is really a trash feat to get low-diffed by someone who was literally countering all of your magic + who was in a good place to finish you quickly.
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We don't know where Haku fell, you forget he was in mid air and was hit at an angel? You act like Sky Drill made a crater throughout the entire room lol. I already proved with visual showing she destroyed the ground. You have to prove where there was no structural damage shown throughout the entire room. Like I said you don't know where Haku landed after he was hit in mid air so it's up to you to prove there was no crater in the room. Bcs again we already saw the damage from Sky Drill on panel. Bcs the fight was over? Why would there be a note of it when no one is there but Lily and Wendy, both who give zero shit about the Labyrinth's structure? You act like they are gonna give a play by play every time something big happens. They literally glossed over a BDSK getting beat
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I don't see any damage.
 

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Quite a remarkable feat to defeat a child who was holding back
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This is really a trash feat to get low-diffed by someone who was literally countering all of your magic + who was in a good place to finish you quickly.
Haku whould neg-diff Team Rocket,let alone losing to Skullion.

What feats has Gray to put her above Wendy where defeated a Top-Tier?
 
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