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And how did he learned it? When he dont have it when he still alive? Why did Bloodman have it also? Did he also learn it? So anyone can learn it. You just prove my point.
Bradman draws his power from the underworld and Silver was a deadman after Tartros. Bloodman may have learned it or may not have but this doesn't mean Whal can learn it instantly or create bots instatnly..
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His mission is beat the fairy tail. And he dont like being outnumbered right? So he is gonna wait for Wendy, Erza, Gray and Natsu to show up ? When in the first place he is the one who initiate the retreat in their first encounter?

Wraith is already beaten. Kyria will be massacred soon. So there are only madmole and him and sticky guy (who can be massacred by Cana and dragon force wendy). If he wont beat Mirajane then the next thing he will retreat again. Meaning failed mission.
His mission is to eat the dragon god not beat fairy tail. Skullion doesn't know that wraith is dead nor Kiria was beaten. I am not interested in these will be stuffs because those are non-canon. In fact, Kiria is up and not down..
 

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Bradman draws his power from the underworld and Silver was a deadman after Tartros. Bloodman may have learned it or may not have but this doesn't mean Whal can learn it instantly or create bots instatnly..
His magic is weakness. You cant change the fact that bloodman is still an underling of Zeref. So Devil Slaying was his toy.

If the devil Slaying was only passed to Gray. It can also be passed to robot or create it.

When its magic is to exploite weakness.

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Bradman draws his power from the underworld and Silver was a deadman after Tartros. Bloodman may have learned it or may not have but this doesn't mean Whal can learn it instantly or create bots instatnly..
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His mission is to eat the dragon god not beat fairy tail. Skullion doesn't know that wraith is dead nor Kiria was beaten. I am not interested in these will be stuffs because those are non-canon. In fact, Kiria is up and not down..
Then why he still wasting is magic power in prolonging the fight? If his mission is to only break the orb and eat aldoron? I doubt he still has enough magic power to eat aldoron. Not to mention how strong Natsu is .. And they are outnumbered because the whole fairy tail guild is here plus the white mage. It will be silly right?

He already retreated the first time. I doubt he can accomplish his mission if the whole guild is here plus the white mage.

The sureball thing for him to do is Low diffed Mirajane. Then break the orb or else Natsu and his team will interrupt again or even the white mage.
In short he cant low diffed Mirajane.
 
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His magic is weakness. You cant change the fact that bloodman is still an underling of Zeref. So Devil Slaying was his toy.
Lol Bloodman being his doesn't mean that whal is too. Weakness hasn't shown anything of being able to create lost magic.
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If the devil Slaying was only passed to Gray. It can also be passed to robot or create it.
Devil Slaying magic was passed to him by Silver but it doesn't mean it can be passed to robot or that he instantly create them.
 

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Nope you are disregarding their personality. Mirajane will not use her true strength against someone who is very close to her. If you want to disregard how she was easily triggered by Skullion by beating the gemini lisanna than Lucy beating the real lisanna then its up to you.

The robots main magic is to exploite weaknesses of its enemies. Thats why they negated the macro and and thunder tribe hax. You can deny it but it already stated in the manga. Macro works on alive , dead or inanimate object.
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Because it was mostly off paneled. You dont know what spell did Laxus used against Kyria right? Because it was off paneled.

Halphas, Seilah limit Release, sitri and Alegria has better feat in hand to hand combat than what Gray has shown in the entire series.
No, you're disregarding their personality. We saw clear cut that Gray was heartbroken by fighting the Raijinshu, while on the other hand we haven't seen anything at all like that from Mirajane. In fact she beat the shit out of Freed in a single chapter back in the day.

No, Wahl's explanation for why the Thunder Trube hax didn't work was because he was a Machina, not because he countered their magic with weakness. Nothing like that was mentioned about Macro either.
 

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Then why he still wasting is magic power in prolonging the fight? If his mission is to only break the orb and eat aldoron? I doubt he still has enough magic power to eat aldoron. Not to mention how strong Natsu is .. And they are outnumbered because the whole fairy tail guild is here plus the white mage. It will be silly right?
He won't be out of magic by spamming few fodder spells. Natsu being strong is irrelevant here since Mirajne is nowhere near Natsu's level. So what if he is outnumbered, he will just teleport away like the last time. Skullion using his full strength against Mirajane is laughable when he has his arms tucked to his shoulders.
 

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For now Gray wins unless mira beats skullion 2. The gap between Mira and gray isn’t that huge slayer advantage would be a huge factor here. Slayer advantage would be ineffective if the gap between 2 fighters are huge example Cheila vs dimaria dragon slayers vs dragons 3. I disagree with POF statement. Gray can’t use POF feats on mira because she is a Friend.
 
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Hmmm,I'm torn between the 2. Whoever wins this,it would be a high-diff fight IMO.
Pre Tartaros arc,I thought Gray was not a proper rival of Natsu. But after Tartaros onwards,I'm considering him as an S-class tier wizard especially after his Demon Slayer powerup. So there is a high chance he can defeat Mira.

Mira on the other hand was mostly sidelined,making a lot of FT fans doubt of her stand as an S-class wizard(mostly due to the fact that she was sometimes given an unfair treatment during battles). But all of her feats convinced me that she is still up there in the S-rank especially with her new TOs. Her only drawback was her stamina though.
 

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Gray managed to blitz Skullion with ice devil zero's longsword before Skullion had the chance to turn to ash, stalemate bone dragon's absolute ash, and was defeated by black ash. Mirajane tried to punch Skullion but he was able to turn to ash, dodged a few of Skullion's ash attacks, and then got kicked. Then both she and Elfman fought the dragon eaters offscreen, and it looks like the Dragon Eaters are winning. Unless you're saying that Skullion has used the effort he used against Gray off screen, which is a reach, I don't see how Mirajane is doing any better than Gray.

Mira on the other hand was mostly sidelined,making a lot of FT fans doubt of her stand as an S-class wizard(mostly due to the fact that she was sometimes given an unfair treatment during battles). But all of her feats convinced me that she is still up there in the S-rank especially with her new TOs. Her only drawback was her stamina though.
I don't think Mirajane's standing as an S-Class wizard was ever in question. Rather, the entire concept of being an S-Class wizard is obsolete. Being an S-Class wizard is really nothing special, and has never been anything special except in the very beginning of the series. Erza became an S-Class when she was 15, so right off the bat that tells that sets the standard for what it makes to cut it as a S-Class. This is honestly not a super-high bar to begin with. Being a Wizard Saint is more impressive title than being a Fairy Tail S-Class, and Wizard Saints are currently fodder.
 

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Gray managed to blitz Skullion with ice devil zero's longsword before Skullion had the chance to turn to ash, stalemate bone dragon's absolute ash, and was defeated by black ash. Mirajane tried to punch Skullion but he was able to turn to ash, dodged a few of Skullion's ash attacks, and then got kicked. Then both she and Elfman fought the dragon eaters offscreen, and it looks like the Dragon Eaters are winning. Unless you're saying that Skullion has used the effort he used against Gray off screen, which is a reach, I don't see how Mirajane is doing any better than Gray.



I don't think Mirajane's standing as an S-Class wizard was ever in question. Rather, the entire concept of being an S-Class wizard is obsolete. Being an S-Class wizard is really nothing special, and has never been anything special except in the very beginning of the series. Erza became an S-Class when she was 15, so right off the bat that tells that sets the standard for what it makes to cut it as a S-Class. This is honestly not a super-high bar to begin with. Being a Wizard Saint is more impressive title than being a Fairy Tail S-Class, and Wizard Saints are currently fodder.
Yeah,well I get your point,titles really don't matter at this point(especially that disappointing GoI😒). But Mira is still considered as a top tier mage of FT though. Gray even included her in the list of "pain in the ass" opponents.

We'll just have to see if she will be able to pull through in her battle against DEs. Though I got this feeling that Skullion was meant for Gray to defeat but I'm putting my hopes for Mira still,atleast heavily injuring the 2 would be enough for me.

Oh,I forgot to mention that I am a Mira fan. So there is a bias there.lol
 

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So? What's that going to accomplish? Taking over Macro was useful because it could help her call Elfman, on it's own it didn't actually do anything to Seilah.
Base Mirajane has no chance at beating even Ice Make Gray, and Demon Mirajane gets slaughtered, takeover doesn't change that. In fact it'd be incredibly generous to assume Mira could even get close enough to Gray to use takeover given her weakness to DeS magic.

Gray wins this easily.
Base Gray was getting pressured by the Thunder Legion. An attack from BSS was enough to take out a Spriggan. I’d say BSS and Sitri could give base Gray a run for his money. The aerial advantage isn’t doing Gray any favors at all. His most impressive feats are usually when he’s using DeS.
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Gray would win , but he's getting wanked.

Gray's showings against partial END = Power of Feelings + Slayer Advantage.

Gray doesn't get that kind of darkness everytime and he can't activate it everytime. And that powerup is a huge powerup. He was losing against Invel in DeS , and with the powerup he stomped him in base. Remember , Gray required the same PoF + DeS + Slayer Advantage to go on par with him. So there's a lot of factors to be considered.

That being said , Mira's got a heavy anti feat of having an extreme diff battle against Jacob who didn't use transport and kept his eyes closed the whole time . This is the reason I'm giving it to Gray. Otherwise power set wise Mira's more impressive.
How is the battle against Jacob an anti feat? Mira was low on magic and could only use her weakest form yet she was still strong enough to beat a Spriggan. Everyone seems to forget Mira was nowhere near perfect condition. Not even close.
 
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Base Gray was getting pressured by the Thunder Legion. An attack from BSS was enough to take out a Spriggan. I’d say BSS and Sitri could give base Gray a run for his money. The aerial advantage isn’t doing Gray any favors at all. His most impressive feats are usually when he’s using DeS.
On the other hand Mirajane was getting pressured by Juliet and Hyne, while Base Gray was enough to take out a spriggan.

On the contrary, aerial advantage does do Gray plenty of favours, since he’s both more versatile and more deadly than Mirajane at long range combat. Mira only has one long range attack lol, probably why she never uses her aerial “advantage”.
 

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tie, or Gray wins high diff. I see them pretty much on a same rank. Gray wins mostly because of his stamina. Mira's is not that great
 

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On the other hand Mirajane was getting pressured by Juliet and Hyne, while Base Gray was enough to take out a spriggan.

On the contrary, aerial advantage does do Gray plenty of favours, since he’s both more versatile and more deadly than Mirajane at long range combat. Mira only has one long range attack lol, probably why she never uses her aerial “advantage”.
Juliet and Heine>Thunder Legion.

Gray wrecked Invel in h2h. Invel has absolutely not prowess in close combat, hence why he got wrecked from a few punches.

Mira has more than one long range attack. Some of the Tartaros curses can be used at long range and Mira being able to fly helps her dodge attacks.
 

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Juliet and Heine>Thunder Legion.
According to whom?
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Mira has more than one long range attack. Some of the Tartaros curses can be used at long range and Mira being able to fly helps her dodge attacks.
Tartoros demons curses shouldn't be effective on Gray. He tanked mard Geer strongest spell which should be above anything rest of tartoros demons can dish out.
 

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Juliet and Heine>Thunder Legion.

Gray wrecked Invel in h2h. Invel has absolutely not prowess in close combat, hence why he got wrecked from a few punches.

Mira has more than one long range attack. Some of the Tartaros curses can be used at long range and Mira being able to fly helps her dodge attacks.
Or alternatively Thunder Legion>Juliet and Hyne.

He did indeed, and when Invel used his absolute strongest spell, Gray then proceeded to shatter it with a single punch.

She has one useful long range spell then, and it’s not even that useful. As for Tartaros souls, all unseen, so useless as far as I’m concerned. And even if they were useful, we don’t know if they offer flight, so at the very least useless in your flying scenario. Flight doesn’t really help dodge attacks, except nukes maybe, which Gray doesn’t use. Grays ice clones have better feats of evasion than Miras flight.
 
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Tartaros Gray with devil slaying powers surpassed mirajane and gray is natsu biggest rival...

Gray wins...
 

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Mira at fraction of her power beat an S12. Gray needed a boost of PoF and his ice advantage to win. That feats an outlier as seen when needed a DeS boost to keep with the Rajinshuu that got taken out by a Wall bot.
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Tartoros demons curses shouldn't be effective on Gray. He tanked mard Geer strongest spell which should be above anything rest of tartoros demons can dish out.
BSS >>>>> Rajinshhu.

Just bcs it stopped MG's hax doesn't mean he can stop all of Tartarus hax. Also Gray sweating to Mira-Seilah using Macro....
 

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Tartoros demons curses shouldn't be effective on Gray. He tanked mard Geer strongest spell which should be above anything rest of tartoros demons can dish out.
According to feats. Juliet and Heine tanked a BSS nuke that slapped Freed out of his “demon” form in the BoF arc. Freed is the strongest member of the Thunder Legion so the same nuke would wreck Bixlow and Ever even worse. Now that I think about it base Gray didn’t even use any attacks against them in the first place.
Thunder Legion are trash lol.

Completely forgot about slayer advantage welp.
 

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According to feats. Juliet and Heine tanked a BSS nuke that slapped Freed out of his “demon” form in the BoF arc. Freed is the strongest member of the Thunder Legion so the same nuke would wreck Bixlow and Ever even worse. Now that I think about it base Gray didn’t even use any attacks against them in the first place.
Thunder Legion are trash lol.
Not as trash as Juliet and Heine. I am not interested in outdated feats. What are those two gonna two once freed fulls out his Jutsu Shiki to prevent either one from using their Magic.
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Just bcs it stopped MG's hax doesn't mean he can stop all of Tartarus hax. Also Gray sweating to Mira-Seilah using Macro....
Mard Geer > Seilah so this means absolutely nothing. Gray could have been surprised at Mira's take over Seilah.
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Mirajane's hype machine is unstoppable though.
I know you are waiting for Skullion to stop the train as Spiderman did. :p
 
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