Discussion Guns: What to Do?

[Christa]

Well, you must be really brave if you want to learn french XD Even french students can't write french without a hundred of mistakes >.< I think that's because child are too lazy to learn all the rules properly. After all, it's their first language XD

Ahem, that's not the subject. In fact, after watching Moore's movie, I was thinking two things : first, the NRA is evil (>.<) Second : Americans would have left their country if life was so dangerous... So I suppose Moore is showing the worst. But that's really disturbing x_X And the fact is : people in USA really HAVE guns in theirs houses. And childs, too.

Actually I should have mentioned this before, I DID date somebody whose father was a redneck with a gun who would shoot any trespassers on his property, and I think that's just not how we're supposed to live. He would probably have shot me if he knew about me dating her, too. Hence why I never entered THAT house =p

In my country, this kind of people exists, too. And they have shotguns. Or *checking dictionnary* yeah, clubs... er... machetes... That must really hurt X_x However, we are on an island. Criminals can't run away. So they try to control themselves... I hope it ^^"


(how do you call an inhabitant of USA ? We call them "etats-uniens", because USA is "Etats-Unis", but I don't know how you can call that x_X America is a continent, people from Canadia, Argentina or Chile are Americans...)

 

[weixiaobao]

MIss America used a hand gun to stop intruders from taking her farm equipment (Fri Apr 20)

In this case gun is not bad at all... So i think totally banned gun in USA would never work...

 

[PaperYomiko]

Well, you must be really brave if you want to learn french XD Even french students can't write french without a hundred of mistakes >.< I think that's because child are too lazy to learn all the rules properly. After all, it's their first language XD

You know, it's the same with English...I'm an English major, and my mom still corrects my grammar all the time. But I studied French for a long time, and it's actually a bit easier than English - not as easy as Spanish though

(how do you call an inhabitant of USA ? We call them "etats-uniens", because USA is "Etats-Unis", but I don't know how you can call that x_X America is a continent, people from Canadia, Argentina or Chile are Americans...)

We would call ourselves Americans - but you're right, Central and South Americans are 'Americans', too, so it does get a bit confusing

But to stay on topic... Michael Moore's movie did raise interesting questions, but he isn't very good about presenting both sides of an issue, so it really has to be taken with a grain of salt. He's very good at making provocative movies and inspiring debate, but I wouldn't necessarily quote him for truth. GK's right, especially with Farenheit 911 he got a lot of criticism for being untruthful.

Interesting about Miss America...didn't know that

 

[juUnior]

hmm in Poland it's rather that only policeman, military, and I dont know, agents which prtects somebody.. bodygourds, can have a weapon. Other way around I think it's not possilbe, but if you will end a course on using weapon, I think it's possible for citizens to have a weapon. Actually I didn;t look deeper into that ;p
Ont thing for sure: if somebody wanted to have a weapon illegaly, it's, like probably evrywhere else, possible -_-

 

[weixiaobao]

MIss America used a hand gun to stop intruders from taking her farm equipment (Fri Apr 20)

In this case gun is not bad at all... So i think totally banned gun in USA would never work...

I forgot to mention I didn't meant the current miss America...
the some long time ago miss America (she pretty old now)

 

[Christa]

I'm an English major

What's that ??? O_O I don't understand ^^" Do that means you're an english adult ?

Well, i think english rules are a bit easier than french rules, but I can't remember them when I speak. Too different XD So of course I use french grammar rules when I write or speak in english ^^"

To stay on topic, I never saw... watched... this "Farenheit 911", because I was really... how to say that... shaked by what had happened... Even if I'm not american... then I can't watch this movie.

About guns, Americans have this right since a long time, I suppose they can't lose this "habit" instantly... Well, before that, they could forbid the death penalty >.< Then forbid guns for "normal" citizens. About policemen and others, I don't know... Do you know that, in France and in other countries where guns aren't allowed, we can walk in the streets without fearing of being attacked by somebody with a gun... ... Yeah, that's not a good argument T_T because we can be attacked by somebody with a knife... But's that's rare !!

 

[JeffDoogins]

alright first things first

That's why I don't want to go in USA, in fact New Zealand seems safer to me.

ok to the topic in hand.... I live in Australia and the gun laws state that the police, military and heavily licensed gun owners are the only people that are leagally allowed to not only own a gun but to hold one aswell. The only way to get a gun license is to have a ligitimate reason other than protection ie. a farmer for foxes etc. and then you need to go through a whole lot of tests to see if your physically and mentally fit to own a gun and an inspector will come by and see where the gun and amunition is kept to see if it is safe enough that children or people other than the gun owner can't reach it. Also Military personel and the law enforcers are not allowed to posess any type of fire arm outside their field of work without a license ie. a police officer locks their gun in a case at the station.

also i'd like to say this works fine but its just the illegal firearms that get into the country through the coffin cheaters and the organised crime groups is when the real problems arise

 

[Christa]

I don't know what you are talking about, but I went to NEw Zealand tree times and the place is really nice. Australia seems to be cool, too, but the problem is Australian accent isn't really good when you want to learn english... and moreover, I'm hard of hearing, I need the purest english XD

Eh, even if I don't understand a lot of english words, it seems you're speaking very bad. Could you be less rude and agressive ? I'm feeling offended...

edit : Since the previous post was edited, now mine is a little strange... because I was answering to something which was erased... XD But thanks, moderator, now I not feeling offended XD

 

[Do Kesubei]

What's that ??? O_O I don't understand ^^" Do that means you're an english adult ?

It means that Paper Yomiko is studying English at his university. English is his "matière principale". ( I can't speak French, I had to look this term up )

Also, I believe most Americans walk down the street without being afraid of suddenly being shot, though it depends on the area. A city with an abnormally high crime rate may change this behavior, however.

I really don't know why stricter restrictions on who may buy a firearm hasn't been introduced, but it really needs to. Specifically, people with questionable psychiatric histories shouldn't be allowed to have one, at least for a certain amount of time. Even if banning the civilian use of guns doesn't work, states could just work on raising the bar on who can have one.

 

[Gold Knight]

ok to the topic in hand.... I live in Australia and the gun laws state that the police, military and heavily licensed gun owners are the only people that are leagally allowed to not only own a gun but to hold one aswell. The only way to get a gun license is to have a ligitimate reason other than protection ie. a farmer for foxes etc. and then you need to go through a whole lot of tests to see if your physically and mentally fit to own a gun and an inspector will come by and see where the gun and amunition is kept to see if it is safe enough that children or people other than the gun owner can't reach it. Also Military personel and the law enforcers are not allowed to posess any type of fire arm outside their field of work without a license ie. a police officer locks their gun in a case at the station.

also i'd like to say this works fine but its just the illegal firearms that get into the country through the coffin cheaters and the organised crime groups is when the real problems arise

I agree with that, though - and also, some people can just make their own lethal weapons by making bombs and such - there's recipes for them on the internet, even. Outlawing guns probably wouldn't solve the problem entirely at all, and in fact might put some people more at risk especially in underprivileged neighborhoods.

I think the best problem to solve this problem that I think in order to be a gun owner you have to sacrifice more of your time to helping the police or your neighborhood in some capacity though. Hence if you want guns THAT badly, then you gotta be, say, an informant, or an active participant in helping your local area crime-free.

 

[JeffDoogins]

I don't know what you are talking about, but I went to NEw Zealand tree times and the place is really nice. Australia seems to be cool, too, but the problem is Australian accent isn't really good when you want to learn english... and moreover, I'm hard of hearing, I need the purest english XD

Eh, even if I don't understand a lot of english words, it seems you're speaking very bad. Could you be less rude and agressive ? I'm feeling offended...

edit : Since the previous post was edited, now mine is a little strange... because I was answering to something which was erased... XD But thanks, moderator, now I not feeling offended XD

my point was that your comparing the 2 countrys' in a way i don't see the comparison. It'd be like me saying 'I don't want to go to New Caledonia, even the US seems safer to me'. Then again if this is because of your english grammar then i apologise

btw i thought editing meant making it user friendly; taking out the bad words, not deleting the whole thing.... i sound quite silly when my posts can only be read with holes in them, sillier than how i usually sound...