Character how strong is really Yukimura?

[kaibaman]

how strong is really Yukimura at the final vs Ryoma he wasn't at his 100 % and in this camp he was on 6th court he beat a 1st stinger #11, is he good enough to be on the top 5 of all japan?

 

[Hardy]

how strong is really Yukimura at the final vs Ryoma he wasn't at his 100 % and in this camp he was on 6th court he beat a 1st stinger #11, is he good enough to be on the top 5 of all japan?

1-He was at his 100 %, Ryoma was the best and won fair and square.
2- He IS good enough to be top 5, definetly. Along with Tezuka and Ryoma, they are the top 3 Ms characters in this series (a level above Sanada, Atobe, Shiraishi, Niou, Fujii, and others...)

 

[Ninomiya]

1-He was at his 100 %, Ryoma was the best and won fair and square.
2- He IS good enough to be top 5, definetly. Along with Tezuka and Ryoma, they are the top 3 Ms characters in this series (a level above Sanada, Atobe, Shiraishi, Niou, Fujii, and others...)

Sanada was said to be Tezuka and Yuki's level since back in Regionals.

 

[Hardy]

Sanada was said to be Tezuka and Yuki's level since back in Regionals.

And then Yukimura beat the crap out of him in the U-17 camp.

 

[Kaoz]

And then Yukimura beat the crap out of him in the U-17 camp.

While that's true, Sanada should have beaten Tezuka 6-0 in the National finals (or 6-2 or something if you give him a couple games with ZSS). The only reason why that didn't happen was because of Sanada's stubbornness. Ability wise he had a counter for everything Tezuka could do at the time.

 

[Hardy]

While that's true, Sanada should have beaten Tezuka 6-0 in the National finals (or 6-2 or something if you give him a couple games with ZSS). The only reason why that didn't happen was because of Sanada's stubbornness. Ability wise he had a counter for everything Tezuka could do at the time.

You think that the Tezuka from the U-17 camp that left Fuji crying in the ground won't win against Sanada?

 

[Kaoz]

You think that the Tezuka from the U-17 camp that left Fuji crying in the ground won't win against Sanada?

No, but that one had TnK and is thus significantly different from the Tezuka Sanada played during the nationals.

 

[Ninomiya]

TnK Changes the world for anyone.
Remember Ryoma getting the crap beaten out of him by Yuki? TnK reversed the ass-kicking.

Honestly, Yukimura is the 3rd/4th Strongest Japanese MSer.
Ryoma and Tezuka are definetes.
Since I expect Ryoma to get TnK back.

Sanada is possible, since although it was just one point, it was a beast point.
But at the same time, Yukimura showed a more serious expression after that point, so using what we have from the manga we cannot confirm who is stronger of the two anymore.

But 2 definetes and one possibility.
Nobody else can touch Sanada/Yuki out of the MSers besides Tezuka or Ryoma though.

@kaibaman
Yukimura's new Yips means that instead of going blind due to fear, you go blind while your in your normal mindstate. You don't realize you are losing anymore.
Fuwa was happy and arrogant and all.
So you can no longer break out of Yips since you don't feel like your being pressured by anything.

Unless you have an Aura, or 10ball return, I see no reason why the Yips won't reach you.
Since you no longer need to be necessary losing or being pushed into a corner to be Yipped by him.

 

[Hardy]

No, but that one had TnK and is thus significantly different from the Tezuka Sanada played during the nationals.

Then I'm right .Yukimura, Tezuka and Ryoma "are the top 3 Ms characters in this series (a level above Sanada, Atobe, Shiraishi, Niou, Fujii, and others...)"

Edit: Sanada probably has his "own level", as he's superior to the other ones I named.

 

[ashore]

its hard to say, did ryoma slow his shots down on purpose so yuki could play and it not be one sided? or did he slow it down so the refs wouldnt have to be confused all the time.
yuki is good that he was able to return ryoma's samurai drive and started to see the ball better and
be a person who cant return the ball.

 

[LetalHawk]

its hard to say, did ryoma slow his shots down on purpose so yuki could play and it not be one sided? or did he slow it down so the refs wouldnt have to be confused all the time.
yuki is good that he was able to return ryoma's samurai drive and started to see the ball better and
be a person who cant return the ball.

Well, Ryoma was holding back the entire time, the first time he hit the ball with all his force and Yukimura didn't see anything. then he slowed things down but Yukimura couldn't move, until he adjusted to Ryoma slowing things down. If he played all out with Tenimuhou, Yukimura would have been almost blind the entire time as the ball couldn't be seen and every time the monitor had to view the entire point, so Ryoma slowed things down in order that the referee could see the ball and the points were not confusing at all.

 

[tieuta]

who cares about Ryoma lmaoo he's there cause he' sthe main character lets get a match Tezuka vs Yukimura and also reveal the history between the two, when first year Tezuka slapped Sanada and then Yukimura played him 1on1, I want to know who won that match? seems like Yukimura lmaoo.

 

[Ninomiya]

who cares about Ryoma lmaoo he's there cause he' sthe main character lets get a match Tezuka vs Yukimura and also reveal the history between the two, when first year Tezuka slapped Sanada and then Yukimura played him 1on1, I want to know who won that match? seems like Yukimura lmaoo.

Right now, in this current storyline, Tezuka VS Yuki will be VERY one-sided. Since the boost TnK should provide, in addition to Tezuka Phantom should break Yukimura down comfortably.
Easy win for Tezuka since I don't think the MSers have closed the gap on what that crazy boost TnK provides.

 

[LetalHawk]

who cares about Ryoma lmaoo he's there cause he' sthe main character lets get a match Tezuka vs Yukimura and also reveal the history between the two, when first year Tezuka slapped Sanada and then Yukimura played him 1on1, I want to know who won that match? seems like Yukimura lmaoo.

Yukimura stands no chance right now against Tezuka. Let alone TnK, that is enough to break down Yukimura if you're a player with Tezuka's skills and more with TNK, which probably lifts speed, mental, power, stamina and technique to the maximum. This would be really one sided, probably Yukimura will improve more because his dream technique isn't enough to really beat TnK, so until Yukimura loses his first match in SPOT against a HS (probably from the top 3 or 4) in a close match, he won't improve more. Loses make people to evolve more, so a loss for Yuki would give him a massive improvement in the future.

 

[TheShiraishi]

All of this losing makes you better talk just makes me even more excited for Fuji's match (Any year now...)

 

[Phantron]

If you have some kind of protection from yips, Hyakuren Aura + some way to offset the speed loss that is enough to defeat Yukimura. He really had nothing that can deal with that outside of yips when Ryoma used it, and from his dialogue it sounds like Tezuka can do the same thing (Tezuka can't move the aura but he has TZone so he wouldn't need to chase after the ball). From the flashback scene, it seems like Tezuka was better than Yukimura when they were both in elementary school. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if it turns out Yukimura developed yips to deal with Hyakuren aura (which Tezuka had in elementary school).

 

[Hardy]

Guillan-Barré syndrome was Yukimura's disease. Look after it in Google, it's gonna blow your mind.

Spoiler

According to Wikipedia:

Guillain–Barré syndrome (GBS) (French pronunciation: [ɡiˈlɛ̃ baˈʁe], English pronunciation: /ˈɡiːlænˈbɑreɪ/), sometimes Landry's paralysis or Guillain–Barré–Strohl syndrome, is an acute polyneuropathy, a disorder affecting the peripheral nervous system. Ascending paralysis, weakness beginning in the feet and hands and migrating towards the trunk, is the most typical symptom, and some subtypes cause change in sensation or pain as well as dysfunction of the autonomic nervous system. It can cause life-threatening complications, in particular if the respiratory muscles are affected or if there is autonomic nervous system involvement.

-Acute motor sensory axonal neuropathy (AMSAN) is similar to AMAN but also affects sensory nerves with severe axonal damage. Like AMAN, it is probably due to an auto-immune response directed against the axoplasm of peripheral nerves. Recovery is slow and often incomplete.

Spoiler

Yes, Yukimura's disease was some kind of Yips, and he uses that against other players... He's a scary guy.

 

[TheShiraishi]

Does that mean he got Yips after the disease? If so, the winner of the assumed match between him and Tezuka would be Tezuka... interesting.

 

[Phantron]

Yukimura obviously has a reputation of possessing yips as a technique. Unless he got his reputation from the quarterfinals and below matches against people not important enough to show on screen (he didn't play in semifinals, he probably didn't even play in the earlier rounds but let's just say he did), he couldn't have possibly developed yips between the time he was hospitalized to nationals because there wouldn't be anyone noteworthy to even see that technique.

I'd say it's far more likely he got his disease because he has crazy mental powers. In POT all super powerful techniques tend to carry some risks.

Although the elementary match between Tezuka and Yukimura was never shown the finale, Sanada did say Tezuka had the upper hand. I don't see how Yukimura can beat Hyakuren with normal rally unless he had yips as a technique as an elementary student. It'd actually make a lot of sense if he developed yips to counter Hyakuren since he lost to it in the past. Looking at the game against Ryoma, it sure looks like he'd lose Hyakuren + TZone if he didn't have yips.

 

[Kaoz]

Guillan-Barré syndrome was Yukimura's disease.

Actually it wasn't. Konomi stated at a later point that it wasn't Guillan-Barré syndrome, but something else close to it without specifying what exactly. I can't be bothered to find the page right now but it's in one of the Rikkai question boxes iirc.