Canon Human acnologia vs human Eileen

[WoWfan]

yeah, sure, whatever.

 

[Axiomus]

Wendy had all the dragon slayers backing her up against Acno. I dont understand this argument. Acnologia fought more enemies. Acnologia fought stronger enemies. Acnologia did better against more and stronger enemies.

Also, Erza never had any of Irene's power. Dues Corona just boosts your combat abilities. It doesnt impart your MP on someone. 7DS Natsu > Erza, and Acno only lost because Fairy Sphere prevented him from moving. It took the whole continent to beat him.

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Also, Irene didnt do anything to Acno that Jellal didnt also do. The simple fact of the matter is, Acno has the means of gutting God Serena before August can react. He rips Irene apart with the first physical attack he lands

 

[WoWfan]

All the DS were tired and weakened compared to before their already intense fights, combat abilities include magical abilities, plus like any other spell it uses one’s magic power for whatever purpose, 7DS includes the MP of weakened and tired DSs, not their peak. Whole continent immobilizing him does not decrease stats so an attack with the combined power of 7 weakened DS should not have beaten Acno who was massively powered up, Jellal could react to Dragon Acno, and Dragon forms are factually greater than human forms, and Jellal was stomped by August, so transitive property is applied here.

 

[Shoutmon]

It truly is wild that there's even a debate for Irene not getting killed in record time here. Wild, but honestly not unbelievable given how hard her fans will twist things to her benefit

August is Irene's equal. The only part of him that could even remotely react to Acno blitzing Serena was his own asshole when it shat itself. August could've been executed at that moment instead, yet Irene's apparently gonna dance around him until she gets tired and slow enough to get tagged?

An actually serious Acno would kill her as soon as the fight starts

 

[WoWfan]

It truly is wild that there's even a debate for Irene not getting killed in record time here. Wild, but honestly not unbelievable given how hard her fans will twist things to her benefit

August is Irene's equal. The only part of him that could even remotely react to Acno blitzing Serena was his own asshole when it shat itself. August could've been executed at that moment instead, yet Irene's apparently gonna dance around him until she gets tired and slow enough to get tagged?

An actually serious Acno would kill her as soon as the fight starts

Jellal reacted to Acno in his dragon form, which is confirmed to be incomparably greater than his human form, and August stomped him. That is something to take into consideration when looking at characters stats by comparison and scaling.

 

[Shoutmon]

Jellal reacted to Acno in his dragon form, which is confirmed to be incomparably greater than his human form, and August stomped him. That is something to take into consideration when looking at characters stats by comparison and scaling.

August's entire gimmick is stealing the opponent's magic and using it against them (all the while negating the damage to him completely). Irene won't be able to use meteor out of nowhere to evade Acno

Not to mention that whole scene is completely inconsistent with prior established feats. The parent dragons (all inferior to Acno) could blitz across the whole continent, yet Acno himself struggles to catch both Cristina and Jellal? That sounds like an outlier

 

[WoWfan]

August's entire gimmick is stealing the opponent's magic and using it against them (all the while negating the damage to him completely). Irene won't be able to use meteor out of nowhere to evade Acno

Not to mention that whole scene is completely inconsistent with prior established feats. The parent dragons (all inferior to Acno) could blitz across the whole continent, yet Acno himself struggles to catch both Cristina and Jellal? That sounds like an outlier

Not really, he is powerful even without spells, and that is how many mage works, he even reacts to Gildarts who is greater than that of Jellal, so again, his speed would scale, if Jellal can react to Acno, then Irene would do so again. We do not know the exact time frame as to when they would complete their mission as it is systematic. You could say that Acno was just having fun and not taking it seriously like many people believe, so not really outlier if it fits with their personalities.

 

[Shoutmon]

Not really, he is powerful even without spells, and that is how many mage works, he even reacts to Gildarts who is greater than that of Jellal, so again, his speed would scale, if Jellal can react to Acno, then Irene would do so again. We do not know the exact time frame as to when they would complete their mission as it is systematic.

August used the same trick on Gildarts lol. He negated and replicated all the latter's magic. Irene doesn't auto-scale to meteor Jellal's speed just 'cause August could copy and use it against him

You could say that Acno was just having fun and not taking it seriously like many people believe, so not really outlier if it fits with their personalities.

Sounds great.

Acno was just having fun and not taking it seriously. If he was serious, he'd blitz Jellal like he blitzes Irene

 

[grey matter]

August used the same trick on Gildarts lol. He negated and replicated all the latter's magic. Irene doesn't auto-scale to meteor Jellal's speed just 'cause August could copy and use it against him


Sounds great.

Acno was just having fun and not taking it seriously. If he was serious, he'd blitz Jellal like he blitzes Irene

Man, IDK why you are wasting time arguing with WoWfan lol. You cannot get to change his mind with logic, he will continue spouting his headcanon.

That applies for anyone who believes Eileen can even scratch Acno, let alone put up a fight. They are far too gone.

Ehh, I guess you'll get there slowly. I also stopped after a while only as well lmao

Human Eileen's combat speed only scales to Erza. We saw this on screen AFTER Wendy went down.
August's base combat speed scale to Gildarts', who scales above Erza's combat speed. Once August pulls out meteor, his combat speed was on a completely different tier from Gildarts and therefore Erza and by extension Eileen.
Doesn't take rocket science to figure it out.

 

[WoWfan]

@grey matter Seeing as how Irene could casually outpace Erza before, that is not her cap. Don’t know what you are talking about. That was when Erza was powered by Irene’s enchantment thanks to Wendy’s aid. We never seen August use Meteor so your assumption is off.

August used the same trick on Gildarts lol. He negated and replicated all the latter's magic. Irene doesn't auto-scale to meteor Jellal's speed just 'cause August could copy and use it against him


Sounds great.

Acno was just having fun and not taking it seriously. If he was serious, he'd blitz Jellal like he blitzes Irene

He did not, he raised his cane and blocked a massive energy punch from Gildarts that devastated a church, so of course he didn’t negate and copy. Hey if Jura and Neinhart can tag the likes of Jellal then so can Irene or August. We never seen August copy Jellal’s meteor as it was off screen. But that is the thing, fun Dragon Form Acno is not the same as Serious human form Acno as he goes all out on those he responds to words of those he finds to not be ants.

 

[Darklord#10]

August used the same trick on Gildarts lol. He negated and replicated all the latter's magic. Irene doesn't auto-scale to meteor Jellal's speed just 'cause August could copy and use it against him


Sounds great.

Acno was just having fun and not taking it seriously. If he was serious, he'd blitz Jellal like he blitzes Irene

There's a reason why people doesn't take wowfan seriously. He keeps trying to prove something that's not true. He literally told me that magic power and magic spells are the same thing. Isn't that madness. He's not the only one tho.

 

[Shoutmon]

There's a reason why people doesn't take wowfan seriously. He keeps trying to prove something that's not true. He literally told me that magic power and magic spells are the same thing. Isn't that madness. He's not the only one tho.

Lol trust me, I know. I still remember the "universal Zeref and Natsu who's only weaker than Acno due to magic resistance" debate I had with him

I guess I just think that things will be different, more reasonable from time to time, but it never is

 

[WoWfan]

Lol trust me, I know. I still remember the "universal Zeref and Natsu who's only weaker than Acno due to magic resistance" debate I had with him

I guess I just think that things will be different, more reasonable from time to time, but it never is

What are you talking about? Zeref can create a universe with Neo Eclipse. Natsu is not stronger than Acno, don’t know what you mean there.

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There's a reason why people doesn't take wowfan seriously. He keeps trying to prove something that's not true. He literally told me that magic power and magic spells are the same thing. Isn't that madness. He's not the only one tho.

So you don’t think that magic spells rely on magic power? That’s good to know.

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you take things out of context yet again, when you look at it any spells are basically magic power in action, MPF proves that since you direct magic power at the sensor with one’s spells, or any action like a physical punch can carry magic power.

 

[Darklord#10]

Magic spells and magic power are not the same thing. You need magic power to perform a magic spell. Magic power is a source of power it's like chakra or cursed energy magic spells is different. Fire dragon roar Is a magic spell, universe 1 is a magic spell. SBT is a magic power simple logic.
Wowfan told me because you need magic power to perform a spell they're the same thing. Lmao bro there's a reason you're in the minority cuz your takes doesn't make sense. You can't be claiming universe 1 and SBT are the same thing

 

[WoWfan]

Magic spells and magic power are not the same thing. You need magic power to perform a magic spell. Magic power is a source of power it's like chakra or cursed energy magic spells is different. Fire dragon roar Is a magic spell, universe 1 is a magic spell. SBT is a magic power simple logic.
Wowfan told me because you need magic power to perform a spell they're the same thing. Lmao bro there's a reason you're in the minority cuz your takes doesn't make sense. You can't be claiming universe 1 and SBT are the same thing

And that magic power is carried in the spell, but Jutsus possess chakra though, don’t know about Curse energy though as it is a different powe system. Fire Dragon Roar is a spell which is made of Magic Power being projected, U1 is a spell that has magic power enchanted, SBT is a magic power waiting to be used, simple as that.

This page proves my point, anything directed towards it that has magic power will register, giving a point value, which includes any spells, even physical attacks so they do have magic power, it is the basis of the formers make up.

 

[Shoutmon]

What are you talking about? Zeref can create a universe with Neo Eclipse. Natsu is not stronger than Acno, don’t know what you mean there.

I'm talking about the debate we had in that Ignia vs Zeref thread. I should've clarified that it was savage flames Natsu and FH Zeref

 

[WoWfan]

I'm talking about the debate we had in that Ignia vs Zeref thread. I should've clarified that it was savage flames Natsu and FH Zeref

Ah, right, well, I still stand by it.

 

[Darklord#10]

Magic spells and magic power aren't the same thing for goodness sake

 

[WoWfan]

So you don’t think magic spells are made up of magic power then?

 

[Darklord#10]

You need magic power to perform a magic spell

@WoWfan lol I literally stated this. Stop Capping