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Because Erza is unnaturally tanky. This is the same woman that destroyed Deus Sema despite every bone in her body (barring her right arm) being broken.
I never claimed Erza was more hurt by Laxus, my point was that Erza took that amount of damage from an unnamed attack even though she was wearing armour specifically designed to resist lightning. If Laxus' unnamed strike was able to hurt Erza that much even with the armour, then the hits Kyria took weren't exactly unimpressive.
Especially since she was still getting up and fighting after being hit by them, only getting KO'd when he brought out the Secret Art.
This means next to nothing here though because Human Mira has nothing approaching the level of damage output that Laxus' unnamed attacks have.
Laxus may not have been going all out against Kyria, but a casual Laxus is still >>>>>>>>>> Human Mira.
If that was supposed to be a witty comeback its a complete failure because Madmole was ready to fight.
The guy was scorched but he could still stand, talk and none of the Dragon Eaters said they weren't in a condition to fight.
Except Skullion deadass says they are retreating because they're outnumbered:
Saying it doesn't make it so - she didn't and there's no reason to believe she would have.
Its a sword enchanted with DS Magic and the strike Kyria took was empowered by fire at that. That is >> anything Mira has in this situation except maybe her BSS punch, and even that is debatable.
Also @Seven777 @Jean Grey @Axiomus
One of you take a screen shot, apparently the sword that one-shotted Irene out of her Dragon form is a 'rando sword'.
It doesn't matter if Erza has held back in the past and struggled because of it, since she has NEVER struggled with anyone as weak as Human Mira.
I'm sorry, why the are you listing those feats as if they are amazing durability feats?
Seilah is outdated as hell and Jacob's offence was awful even in Alvarez. The dude couldn't put down Lucy and the most NaLu suffered was tiny cuts and bruises. Meanwhile Kyria has proven she can one-shot Lucy with a casual roar and inflict gaping wounds on her.
Seriously, just look at the info-graphic @Axiomus made, its crazy talk to say Jacob is more offensively impressive than Kyria.
"Fodder level attack"
Guess Gajeel considers base Natsu as fodder. Guess a serious Natsu considers a rampaging Dragon God as fodder...
The actual fuck dude, you're getting this fodder Secret Art stuff from nowhere.
I'm not even going to bother contesting this point because it doesn't matter which one of us is right.
At the end of the day the attack Laxus used to KO Kyria is > one punch from BSS. And Human Mira has to inflict enough damage on Kyria to match at least two unnamed attacks from Laxus before attempting to KO her with BSS. That just isn't going to end well.
"Only took out Jura" - it 'only' took out the 2nd/3rd strongest character in the entire tournament?
Just because he isn't spamming it as his finisher doesn't mean its outdated. For one it could actually mean he doesn't need to use it regularly to win his fights, so Roaring Thunder could be stronger than either of us think. All we have are the feats, and they are of putting down one of the strongest characters at that time and KO'ing someone who tanked a flame enhanced hit from Belserion and was still in good enough of a condition to fight. That is not an insignificant attack.
By this logic I could argue Natsu's Secret Art is better than his FDK Demo Fist because he chose to use the Secret Art on Mercphobia (in their first exchange) instead of the Demo Fist.
Not using an attack doesn't suddenly mean its weak sauce. Its just a good showing for Erza and good hype for Red Lightning.
Also a reminder, this is Ms KeepsFightingWithEveryBoneBroken, not exactly your average fighter.
Mate, I'm not arguing Laxus went all out against her or that he absolutely had to use his Secret Art.
My argument is that he chose to end the fight quickly after the attempted hax and used an attack that's utterly outclassed every other offensive spell in the arc that wasn't an FDK spell or Black Ash.
Could Laxus have beat Kyria without using the Secret Art? Yes, but he obviously felt other attacks in his arsenal wouldn't suffice (may I remind you that this includes his Roar, Lightning Dragon's Jaw and Heavenward Halberd - Roaring Thunder is > all of those, and they were powerful as hell in the previous arcs).
Human Mira has 0 feats to suggest she can tank a Roar from Kyria. That Roar one-shotted Lucy and Wendy and left Erza cut up. Even if I'm being incredibly generous that Roar is still doing moderate-major damage to Human Mira.
As for going to H2H, you say that like this benefits Mira. Kyria would cut her to pieces in close range, she was keeping up with Erza, showed good agility when fighting Wendy + Lucy and is durable enough to tank a hit from Belserion. What is Human Mira doing that stops her from being stomped?
Right now I don't see anything saying she wouldn't be.
Its changing the subject because you keep going "OMG, LUXUS WASN'T EVEN HURT, KYRIA SO WEAK" while actively avoiding the fact that Human Mira isn't Laxus. Hell, most characters don't have Laxus-tier durability. Your being disingenuous here and its irritating. For the first time ever you've made me happy that you're not going to respond because the shit your arguing is awful.
When the hell has base Mira taken hits from S-Class FT tier opponents?
I take back what I said above, I really want a response now, because either I've somehow forgotten something major (and I easily could have) or this is a feat that was from ages ago or not from an S-Class at all.
BSS wasn't a match for Skullion at all. In all of the bits of the actual fight we saw, Skullion/Madmole looked to be having the edge. Mira couldn't even touch Skullion be it with physical attacks or Magical, and Elfman got hurt just from punching Madmole.
I know you believe that Elfman can suddenly hit harder than FDK Demo Fist despite being in the same Soul that got hurt just from punching Madmole and that Mira... somehow managed to find a way to hit Skullion, but until we see how the fuck such events happened, I'm calling that fight for what it is - suspect.
Elfman has never shown that level of offence before and Mira shouldn't have been able to touch him, its a massive outlier.
His offence doesn't need to be amazing when people get hurt just by punching him.
Also, his "defence ain't crap"? This guy is shrugging off Demo Fists. That's arguably the best durability feat from anyone that's not God-tier.
So we're just ignoring her feats against Wendy, Lucy and Erza? All of whom are far better than Human Mira.
And once again, base Natsu >>>>> Human Mira, she's not catching any of Kyria's attacks.
Who did she take hits from?
And lmfao, Soulless, Human Mira not using Magic is > casual Erza? I knew you liked Mira but this is ludicrous.
Fam, you criticise Erza for getting slapped around by Minerva, Kagura, Ikagura when Mira got slapped around by books
Being serious though, Imma repeat myself - it doesn't matter if Erza got slapped around in the past, Kyria still annihilates Human Mira.
Just casually leaving out the fact that said S12 had his eyes closed and she admitted that he would have clapped her had he been fighting properly?
And Seilah is outdated, stop bringing her up. Spriggans were touted as more powerful than any other enemies FT had ever faced. I don't buy it but for the Jacob feat to be impressive you have to.
So what is it? Is Seilah still somehow relevant or is Jacob actually powerful? It can't be both.
LMAO
How the hell is Lighting Dragon's Jaw better than a Secret Art? That would make zero sense. That was from an exhausted Laxus at that. Roaring Thunder shits on Jaw hard, there's a reason Roaring Thunder is the Secret Art. This would be like saying Fire Dragon's Iron Fist > any of Natsu's Secret Arts.
Also, you know what, you're right. You haven't been lowballing Laxus. Instead you've been lowballing the Dragon Eaters and Erza constantly to try and wank Mira. And its ridiculous.
She really can't. Magicless, Soulless Mira isn't doing anything that could be compared to base Sting, let alone Laxus.
You have yet to explain how hurting Jacob is somehow equal to KO'ing a Dragon Eater that shat on a superior version of Lucy than the one Jacob fought. Especially since Jacob couldn't put down that inferior version of Lucy WITH HIS EYES OPEN.
Bruhhh, this Jacob wank is stupid. Natsu was holding back massively in the guild.
Once Jacob was out of the guild Natsu did go serious, but he didn't 'force' Natsu into it, he just went for the one-shot KO. Kinda like how Laxus used Roaring Thunder on Kyria. Of course even if that isn't the case Natsu had far more incentive to go for the one-shot seeing as Jacob's Transport could still be a danger vs Kyria whose hax had literally just failed on Laxus.
Fam, you're giving her feats she doesn't have. We have no idea who hurt Madmole or how many hits it took.
Regardless, this is why the fight is suspect. Alegria was needed to take out Spriggan subordinates but BSS suddenly has punches on-par with FDK Demo Fist?
No she wasn't, not at all. The other FT high tiers would be Erza, Laxus and Gildarts, right? Lets have a look:
- Gildarts puts up a decent performance against August, a guy immune to Caster Magic, casually wrecked Crime Sorciere and was going to wreck Natsu
- Laxus was fighting on-par with Wahl despite literally being half-dead and having MBP fits and outright one-shot killed him once he was healthy and circumvented Wahl's lightning immunity. This is also solid evidence to say that August's comment about how Laxus could kill Ajeel with one nameless attack is true.
- Erza fought against Irene, taking blast after blast from her, destroyed Deus Sema and knocked her out of her Dragon form
- Mira had to go all out against two Spriggan subordinates, was left tired and then fought a Spriggan who was blind and still barely won
Oh come on, it was a joke for Christ's sake.
