Anime Hunter X Hunter Anime- Fall 2011

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Oh actually that is right, from the looks of the preview it showed Satots still talking to Gon so yeah your right.
In the manga Satotz talks to Gon once when he wakes up and then again after
when Gon shows him the license card he got from Kite which actually belongs to Ging.

It will be rather interesting to see how they plan on doing that scene.
Since they skipped Kite's introduction earlier.

Hope they don't skip it. But I do think next episode will center around Ging.

That's next episode , it's on Chapter 38 and this episode ends at Ch 37 2nd page

So Next episode going to cover Chapter 37 + Chapter 38

And also Satotz talk to Gon about him is on Next Episode too :D so right now the anime still stay true to the manga xD
I know. I'm just saying Satotz was supposed to talk to him about Luluku ruins THIS episode. But if they just push it to next episode when Satotz will be talking about
Ging anyways well then I'm fine with that.

This episode... was just... awesome.

Honestly, I thought Gon and Killua VS Netero in the ball game was the best episode yet, but this just brought the new anime to a whole new level! It was like I was watching/reading it for the first time again! Absolutely flawless!

If I HAD, definitely HAD, to say something bad about the episode, it would be Gon's dream. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't awesome like the rest of the episode. It was just... there.
I thought the dream was a good set up in a way. Gon does suddenly wake up
in the beginning of the chapter and it being a nightmare about not being able
to reach his father helps to build his character and it's good timing with him
having just been beaten up by Hanzo and probably feeling like he lost the exam.
Plus since it's on the chapter cover it's technically canon.

I thought the dream was awesome in starting the episode with an ominous atmosphere... its definitely better than having to listen to that boring narrator who gives a recap at the beginning of every episode

I thought this episode was pretty flawless...the only thing i wished it had also done was flood the room with red sunset light like in the original anime as it will make the whole atmosphere more spookier..Killua vs Ilumi were near the last round so it should be late afternoon or sunset by then

I realised they decided to move Satoz's story about the ruins and Ging to the next episode, which will go well with Gon showing him Ging's license , but the problem is in the manga Gon explained the license was left behind by Kaito and gave Satoz Kaito's contact..... I wonder whether that means the anime will finally show us Gon's encounter with Kaito or will they skip Kaito's part altogether and leave it till later (because the preview does not indicate any scene of Gon's past)
I like the dream but I also like the narrator however sometimes the narration isn't
so great. Like when he was saying Gon was angry. Well...yeah. I dunno if it felt a bit
unnecessary. But whatever.

Actually I'm quite happy they DIDN'T try to make it spooky.
And I dunno if it would be that late. The fights were pretty short
and in the manga they were nonexistent. Only the 1999 anime
had them be longer.

Yeah it's going to be interesting to see how they plan on pulling it off.



Yeah it does seem like they're going to talk about Ging instead of Kaito in the next episode, as you said the preview didn't indicate anything about Kaito but you never know, it might be intertwined with the conversation with Satotz. He said he wasn't done speaking to Gon near the end of the episode. This is one of the relative parts where Kaito could be presented but we just have to wait and see.
the next two corresponding chapters are Light and Darkness Part 3 and Ging Freecss
so if it's NOT about Ging then that's just crazy. Plus the dream sequence HIGHLY
suggests so. Plus what better way to return from the break then to kick it off
with a Ging related episode. It will be a good reminder of WHY Gon is taking the exam.



Gon's dream was somehow in the Manga

This was a great episode, I give it 9.5/10
this makes me love the episode even more

I would LOVE if the the three pictures of Kurapika and Hisoka fight wouldn't be THAT static. I would enjoy that filler be a bit more dynamic. Overall, it was good. Finally we're closer to better arcs <3
true but it went by quick so I thought it was fine. And I think Hisoka v Bodoro made up for it.


Oh and it turns out Satotz DOES talk about Luluku ruins again in the chapter Ging Freecss
 

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Pretty awesome episode. I like how they managed to produce a darker atmosphere than normal without using a sunset lighting like with the 99' version. Thing with Illumi's eyes looked pretty cool too, and I loved the shots where Killua went crazy on Boldero. Poor guy.

On a different note, I noticed Illumi's theme (?) wasn't in the first soundtrack so here's hoping that we'll get darker music like that in the second soundtrack. I think there's a possibility Kaito will be mentioned next episode, or at the very least soon. One of the songs on the first soundtrack is called "Kaito's theme"(and was actually used in this week's episode for some reason) so that should at least put to rest the crazy theory that Madhouse is trying to erase him from the anime entirely.
 

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This episode has been splendidly animated, but as the plot progresses I keep wondering if they are going to change the timeslot.
 

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I kinda liked the way the fights were done in the first anime better, but this was still a great episode. Kurapika vs Hisoka was a little static yes, but Hisoka vs Bodoro had some pretty fluid animation and was cool. I loved the Latin chorus that played during Killua vs Illumi, it was pretty badass and sounded ominous. I still don't like the way Illumi's face is drawn in this anime though, I think it could look a little better. And the dream sequence at the beginning of the episode was a cool reference to the chapter cover!

On a different note, I noticed Illumi's theme (?) wasn't in the first soundtrack so here's hoping that we'll get darker music like that in the second soundtrack. I think there's a possibility Kaito will be mentioned next episode, or at the very least soon. One of the songs on the first soundtrack is called "Kaito's theme"(and was actually used in this week's episode for some reason) so that should at least put to rest the crazy theory that Madhouse is trying to erase him from the anime entirely.
Just out of curiosity, which track is this? Could you tell me the track's number?
 

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I think there's a possibility Kaito will be mentioned next episode, or at the very least soon. One of the songs on the first soundtrack is called "Kaito's theme"(and was actually used in this week's episode for some reason) so that should at least put to rest the crazy theory that Madhouse is trying to erase him from the anime entirely.
Wait, what? There isn't a "Kite's Theme" on the OST.
 

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I kinda liked the way the fights were done in the first anime better, but this was still a great episode. Kurapika vs Hisoka was a little static yes, but Hisoka vs Bodoro had some pretty fluid animation and was cool. I loved the Latin chorus that played during Killua vs Illumi, it was pretty badass and sounded ominous. I still don't like the way Illumi's face is drawn in this anime though, I think it could look a little better. And the dream sequence at the beginning of the episode was a cool reference to the chapter cover!



Just out of curiosity, which track is this? Could you tell me the track's number?
I prefer this one. The old anime had longer fights and drama wise they were cool
but it was like watching old people fight (this isn't counting Gon vs Hanzo nor Killua vs Illumi). The fights here are shorter but much more intense. Not as dramatic as the 1999 version but I like it better as it's not dragged out.

to give an example...

Hisoka vs Bodoro in 1999 was more dramatic because it really emphasized the point that Hisoka is a million times stronger than Bodoro but yet Bodoro fought on. However it
was kinda silly in a way with Hisoka just fighting with his pinky. Not very exciting.

The 2011 version is less dramatic because it spends less time on it. but the action is a lot cooler. especially when Hisoka twisted his wrist. That was pretty vicious. :)

Also Illumi's face is actually drawn closer to the manga than the 1999 anime.
His eyes are more narrow in the 1999 version then they are in 2011 or manga.
 

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I know that Illumi's face in the 2011 anime is closer to the manga but I think they could've improved upon it just like they did with some other characters. For example, Gon, Killua, Kurapika and Leorio have designs based on Togashi's style in the 2011 anime with the anime team having improved their designs. In other words, the 2011 anime's drawings are based on Togashi's style only better looking than the manga.
 

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Gon's dream was somehow in the Manga

This was a great episode, I give it 9.5/10
Thnx for this i didn't realize that.
Nice episode but i really was looking forward to Kurapica vs Hisoka :mad
 

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Thnx for this i didn't realize that.
Nice episode but i really was looking forward to Kurapica vs Hisoka :mad
Here it is :teehee



wait did you miss it?

It was the third panel

where absolutely nothing happens.

expecting a bit more? sorry
 

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Here it is :teehee



wait did you miss it?

It was the third panel

where absolutely nothing happens.

expecting a bit more? sorry
This made me lol. :derp
 

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Wait, what? There isn't a "Kite's Theme" on the OST.
Never mind. On youtube it was being called "Kaito's theme" but apparently it's Killua's.
 

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I think it's going on a break next week because of a Japanese holiday.
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2062.html


But I could be wrong lol.
Just Ignore this post. I got the dates mixed up I thought HxH was going on break March 3rd, but it's actually being postponed to March 3rd. So I have no clue why it's going on a break next weekend lol.
 

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Just Ignore this post. I got the dates mixed up I thought HxH was going on break March 3rd, but it's actually being postponed to March 3rd. So I have no clue why it's going on a break next weekend lol.
It's because NTV got the rights to live broadcast a Japan Marathon race and the race is at the time when HxH is usually shown. Out of all the the shows.. lol
 

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It's because NTV got the rights to live broadcast a Japan Marathon race and the race is at the time when HxH is usually shown. Out of all the the shows.. lol
Thanks for letting me know, and yes... out of all the shows that air on Saturday mornings it had to be HxH lol.
 

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LOL

but I was expecting this one :D


Well they did show that...though they only showed the bottom part of his face.

I imagine it was half not wanting to animate the part (it would be rather difficult to animate) and half dramatic purposes.
because in a way if the animation isn't done right it's going to look silly and ruin the atmosphere of the rest of the episode.

I still would have liked to see it animated though. but oh well.

still love the episode
 

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Early comparison.

Episode 20 of Madhouse's adaptation covers chapters 35 and 36 in the manga, as well as corresponds to episodes 29 and (most of) 30 in Nippon Animation's adaptation. It first aired on February 19, 2012. For the sake of context, episode 30 of the Nippon Animation series first aired on June 3, 2000.

Chapter 35 opens with Gon waking up following the end of his match. He is accompanied by Satotz, who debriefs him about the results of the rest of the matches. The 1999 series changes the type of bandage on his forehead. The rooms all look a bit different. Also, Satotz might be in a rolling chair in the manga.




Episode 29 of the 1999 series, however, is another story. It begins with the conclusion of the match between Gon and Hanzo and proceeds into the beginning of Hisoka vs. Bodoro. I'll explain more in a bit.

Anyways, Satotz tries to congratulate Gon. He holds out his hand to shake the boy's hand, but Gon refuses to initially take it. The dynamic stays this way in the 1999 series throughout their conversation, but Satotz in the manga and 2011 series grabs Gon by the hand and makes him shake his own.

Satotz' speech is very different in Nippon Animation's version. In it, he chastises Gon for his reckless behavior and sort of teaches him a lesson. This might be a major issue in Gon's characterization in that version. I don't like the dynamic because Satotz is acting as if he's Gon's parent and the boy takes those words to heart in the 1999 series. Because this never happens in the manga, Gon doesn't actually learn anything from his match with Hanzo. This is important. Below are the two versions of Satotz' speech--one from the manga/2011 series and the other from the 1999 series:

Manga/Madhouse Version (2011):
(Satotz extends his hand to Gon in a gesture.)
Gon: "Mr. Satotz... I"
Satotz: "You can't."
(Satotz grabs Gon's hand and forces it to shake his own.)
Satotz: "Just as someone who has failed the exam can no longer pass, someone who has passed the exam can no longer fail. The rest is up to you."
"If you feel you are unqualified to be a pro, you are free to destroy or put away your license. You can even sell it, since no one else will be able to use it. Even so, there are plenty of people willing to pay a fortune to get their hands on a card like that [this line is missing from the 2011 series]. However, a person who has passed the exam will not be allowed to take it again. Thanks to our predecessors' efforts, Professional Hunters are treated well. Hence, there are many applicants who harbor ill intentions. If it weren't for them, we would accept every person who applied. Most professional Hunters this card more valuable than their own lives, yet no more than a worthless scrap of paper at the same time. And the most important thing is what you accomplish...once you become a Hunter, that is."
Gon (2011): "What I accomplish..."
Satotz (2011): "Gon, you can decide for yourself when you're ready to use this card. I have faith in your judgment."
Gon: "Okay. A lot of people helped me reached this point. I'll use this once I've returned the favor!"
Satotz: "So then, once again I'd like to congratulate you on becoming a Hunter."
Gon: "Thank you. Mr. Satotz!"


Nippon Animation Version (1999):
Satotz (1999): "Let me give you a piece of advice: It's okay to push your way through sometimes, but there's a right time, a place, and a situation for everything. You could end up with irreversible consequences if you fail to grasp that. You only have one life, after all."
Gon (1999): *solemnly said* "Yeah..."
(Satotz extends his hand to Gon in a gesture.)
Gon (1999): "Mr. Satotz... I"
Satotz (1999): "No you can't!"
"Just as someone who has failed the exam can no longer pass, someone who has passed the Exam can no longer fail. The same goes for you. The rest is up to you."
"You have what it takes to become a Hunter. This has been proven during the course of the Exam."
Gon (1999): "But I lost to Hisoka...and I couldn't beat Hanzo either." (apparently it's common knowledge that Gon took Hisoka's badge in the 1999 series)
"I don't deserve it. I only passed the Exam because they all felt sorry for me."
Satotz (1999): "And is that really so terrible?"

*Commercial Break*

Satotz (1999): "(Satotz says this in a strict, chastizing manner) Let me be completely honest with you, Gon. Miss Menchi and Buhara didn't see anything exceptional in your performance at the end of the Second Phase."
"The fact that you're only twelve years old is remarkable. However, all applicants are considered equal in the Hunter Exam. I believe no one, including myself, ever expected you to get this far."
Gon (1999): "I guess you're right. It must've just been dumb luck, right?"
Satotz (1999): "However, you have proven us all completely wrong. Gon... do you know what the Final Phase is all about?"
Gon (1999): "Huh? Well, that's...um..."
Satotz (1999): "It isn't about winning or losing. It tests something more than that. And you managed to answer correctly to Mr. Chairman's test."
"That's why you passed."
Gon (1999): "Huh? ...I don't get it."
Satotz (1999): "It's okay if you don't understand. Sometimes we don't fully unterstand the Chairman's true intentions. Let me explain to you the details."
"Regardless of how you feel about it, you will be issued a license card."
Gon (1999): "A Hunter...card."
Satotz (1999): "The license card that will be proof of you being a Hunter. And what you do with it is entirely up to you. Needless to say, passing the Exam is not the goal, but just the beginning. If you don't think you're worthy of being a Hunter, you are free to destroy or put away your license. You can even sell it. The most others can do with it is to use it as a display. Even so, there are plenty of people willing to pay a fortune to get their hands on a card like that. You could sell it and spend a lifetime in luxury...or seven lifetimes. However, once you've passed the exam, you can never take it again. Thanks to our predecessors' efforts, Professional Hunters are treated well. Hence, there are many applicants who harbor ill intentions. If it weren't for them, we wouldn't mind passing all applicants...so says the Chairman. Most professional Hunters this card more valuable than their own lives, yet no more than a worthless scrap of paper at the same time. And the most important thing is what you accomplish once you become a Hunter. If you feel like you've taken on debts, it's okay if you take your time to repay them. What's important is what you do in the future from here and what you hope to accomplish."
Gon (1999): "The most important thing is what I do in the future from here... I remember my friends that saying the same thing to me before, but I guess I didn't really know what they meant."
Satotz (1999): "Like I said in the beginning, there's a right time for everything. You may know something, but you won't realize it until the time is right. Or understand it, yes? But it seems as if you've made some good friends, haven't you? I hope you appreciate them because true friends are as hard to come by as having true talents."
Gon (1999): *Smiles* "Of course!"
Satotz (1999): He managed to make such good friends during this grueling Exam. And there's his extraordinary will power...Just what is this kid made of...?

... (skipping ahead)

Satotz (1999): "Well then, Gon. This is your license card."
Gon (1999): "My...card."
Satotz: "Gon, you can decide for yourself when you're ready to use this card. I have faith in your judgment."
Gon (1999): "Yeah. I only got this card because a lot of people have helped me reach this point. And I have so many debts to repay to their hands. And so...I'll start using it after I've returned the favor to everyone!"
Satotz (1999): "Yes. So then, once again I'd like to congratulate you on becoming a Hunter."
Gon (1999): "Thank you."


Interestingly enough, both conversations diverge from the manga in their last few lines by skipping a scene (though the Nippon animation version simply moves those lines slightly later in the conversation). Satotz and Gon talk about something in the manga and 1999 series that hasn't been addressed in the 2011 series yet, but I won't go too far into it because the preview indicates that the end of their talk might occur in the next episode.

Though I believe Satotz's comments about initially underestimating Gon in Nippon Animation's version (as well as his last comments in the above dialogue) only serve to show the director's choice in making him the flawless boy wonder of the story.

This one of the major issues that the 1999 series had in characterizing Gon. They're trying too hard to have every character in the story say how special Gon really is; how talented and mysterious. This gets the studio in a bit of trouble during the Yorknew City arc.

There's also something that's bothersome about another of Satotz' added lines in the Nippon Animation version, but I won't be specific until my next comparison. I'll give you a hint--it has to do with Satotz's line referencing Menchi and Buhara. Figure it out yourselves--you're Hunters, aren't you? ;)
The Hunter's License looks different between anime series. It's green with a red back in the 1999 series, whereas both sides are blue in the 2011 series. Due to the 2011 series postponing the flashback in the first chapter about Gon's past, this is the first time that viewers see a Hunter's License in the series. This is the first time in which the fixed Hunters Association logo makes an appearance in the 1999 series.

If someone wants to decode the written text on the 2011 series' version of the license so I can translate it, be my guest ;)

Now we get to the meat and potatoes--the rest of the Exam. Who failed and who passed? None of the versions do the subtle reveal of who failed the exam. Togashi draws Killua in on the next page but doesn't overtly say he failed (and it's a different image from the bloody one). The 2011 series moves the scene in which mentions Killua's failure right here. The 1999 series doesn't show Killua's bloody hand until the next episode, and even then it's censored by being placed in shadow.




In the 1999 series, Gon's heart starts to ache once he hears that Killua failed. From this point onward, his heart continually races while listening to Satotz' story. Listening to the story is a more emotionally taxing affair on Gon in the 1999 series.

Satotz (1999): "What's wrong?"
Gon (1999): "I'm fine...It's gone now."
Satotz (1999): "It's probably the stress."
Gon (1999): "But above that...!"
Satotz (1999): "I understand. Let me go back a little and start from the beginning of the third round..."


So then Satotz proceeds by talking about what occurred directly after Gon passed out. The order of the matches in the Final Phase are as follows:
Round 1: Gon vs. Hanzo
Round 2: Kurapika vs. Hisoka
Round 3: Hanzo vs. Pokkle
Round 4: Hisoka vs. Bodoro
Round 5: Killua vs. Pokkle
Round 6: Leorio vs. Bodoro
Round 7: Killua vs. Gittarackur


The 1999 series completely changes them. This won't be the first time in which the order of events is altered in Nippon Animation's version.
Round 1: Kurapika vs. Hisoka
Round 2: Gon vs. Hanzo
Round 3: Hisoka vs. Bodoro
Round 4: Hanzo vs. Pokkle
Round 5: Leorio vs. Bodoro
Round 6: Killua vs. Pokkle
Round 7: Killua vs. Gittarackur


Kurapika's fight against Hisoka is animated first in episode 26 of the Nippon Animation version.


The 1999 series removes the cut on Kurapika's cheek and elongates the battle in the manga--despite Togashi only drawing in three panels of non-combative scenes to represent their match. It isn't a very good episode--it's visually unimpressive and the dialogue is terribly generic (and largely consists of rewritten versions of statements made in the past by characters).

Come to think of it, don't you find the Final Phase of the Hunter Exam to be a complete letdown? It was supposed to be this big martial-arts tournament promising some unlikely matchups, but the manga offers no fighting at all while the 2011 series shortens it to short and still frames. Again, this disappointment is Togashi's intent. As Gon said, the Final Phase tested one's own will rather than physical capability. The most important details readers and viewers are supposed to note from each match are in the conversations. I'll go into more detail later.

Killua says something to Hanzo that throws off Hisoka, Kurapika, and Leorio. He asks him "Why did you forfeit the match? I'm sure that you know ways to make Gon surrender without killing him." The three characters I mentioned are then shocked that Killua would say something like that--especially since it had been assumed that he and Gon had gotten closest to each other out of everyone in the exam. In the 1999 series, all of the contestants glare at Hanzo instead. The Nippon Animation version also places this scene immediately after Hanzo knocks Gon unconscious. This is a mistake because this flashback should be emphasized--everything that transpires in Satotz's description of the Final Phase to Gon is very important.



Hanzo's final line to Killua is changed in the 1999 series:
Hanzo (Manga/2011): "I guess you could say that he won me over. If you need a reason, there you go."
Hanzo (1999): "I guess you could say that he won me over. I couldn't fight him anymore. A good enough reason to lose...It wasn't on purpose."


So in the 1999 series, this scene transitions into the beginning of Hisoka vs Bodoro and then cuts to Gon waking up in bed. More Hisoka vs. Bodoro is placed when Satotz begins telling Gon about the Final Phase in the 1999 series. Menchi gets really mad at anyone with confidence in themselves in the 1999 series; she sees it as cockiness. She HATES Hanzo and dislikes Killua. There are some really generic comments on the sidelines for this match:

Menchi (1999): "For an old guy, he sure has a lot of fight in him!"
Satotz (1999): "It all comes down to having a fighting spirit."


Finally, Killua vs. Gittarackur. He reveals his true identity to be that of Illumi Zoldyck--Killua's older brother.


Episode 29 (1999) ends, Episode 20 (2011) goes to commercial, and that's the end of part 1 of this comparison. Part 2 later.
 

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You know, something I always DO remember is Satotz speech of Nippon series. I always thought He was an uncle since I heard it, it's funny you mention his parental figure :P

I was disappointed later when I was unable to see his Nen because I truly believed He was a main character.
 

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Amazing comparison as always!
 

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You know, something I always DO remember is Satotz speech of Nippon series. I always thought He was an uncle since I heard it, it's funny you mention his parental figure :P

I was disappointed later when I was unable to see his Nen because I truly believed He was a main character.
Satotz has always been a favorite of mine. Simply for the fact he has an insane amount
of endurance and how he don't take no crap from Hisoka while even Menchi a single
star hunter got the heebie jeebies from Hisoka. I would love to see Satotz fight
 
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