Anime Hunter X Hunter Anime- Fall 2011

[Crude]

^ I was actually thinking about Bleach when I wrote that

 

[chei]

I do. A still can't find who are the voice actors for Gido and Sadaso. They are not mentioned in ANN or Hunterpedia.

Kastro's voice actor turned out to be Tokuyoshi Kawashima.

The voice actor credits are on the official website:
http://www.ntv.co.jp/hunterhunter/character/other_03.html

Sadaso is this guy: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=89211
Gido (as CrudeCross mentioned) is this guy: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ency...e.php?id=50440

I remember liking Spider's Shizuku's voice a lot in the old series, I hope the 2011 can find someone with a unique voice like that. I hope Feitan get a new male voice like Illumi (who's great in the new one). But in general I don't really care for who's who in voice acting, as long as they fit the character. The 1999 series's Hisoka has a memorable and unique voice but it can sound geeky at times, the new Hisoka's voice is more generic and uneven, but when he's good he's good.

 

[Netero]

Zushi has scarlet eyes!? [Gyo 1999]

 

[fanatik]

...Does anyone even care or pay attention to this? The Voice actor thing?

I do as well. In fact, I'm on pins and needles waiting to hear Maeda's performance as Machi, because she is pretty much unknown, and Machi just happens to be my favorite female character in this series, so an inadequate performance could ruin a lot of my favorite scenes.

I remember liking Spider's Shizuku's voice a lot in the old series, I hope the 2011 can find someone with a unique voice like that. I hope Feitan get a new male voice like Illumi (who's great in the new one). But in general I don't really care for who's who in voice acting, as long as they fit the character. The 1999 series's Hisoka has a memorable and unique voice but it can sound geeky at times, the new Hisoka's voice is more generic and uneven, but when he's good he's good.

I absolutely loved Kuroro's voice, the exact kind of voice to accentuate the fact that he's a born leader - so calm and quiet yet with enough authority to make everybody listen without ever raising his voice. That'll be tough to find a seiyuu that could perform on par with that.

As for Hisoka, I like his new voice; I can even say that I like it more than the old one... But there's a slight problem: I can't seem to remember it... I mean whenever I recall Hisoka, it's always the old voice I hear in my head and never the new one... I'd like to change it but it doesn't seem to be that easy... The old one was so catchy and memorable that I just... it feels really weird, this state.

 

[MegamanX195]

^I used to have that problem with Hisoka's voice too, but "my mind" already got used to his new one after I re-read the manga. Don't ask me why, though.

So, how do you guys think the fight explanation will be done? With the Narrator, like the manga? If it is done like that, then this episode will most likely be quite a bit more than just 2 chapters from the manga, since the second chapter is basically just the explanation.

 

[SHINOBI-03]

I think it'll be either by the narrator or Machi.

 

[Beans]

In another HXH forum, some people say that skipping the whole Kastro vs. Hisoka fight is even better than showing Hisoka's severed hand with no blood!!
Man! Do these people have minds?

 

[Uriel]

In another HXH forum, some people say that skipping the whole Kastro vs. Hisoka fight is even better than showing Hisoka's severed hand with no blood!!
Man! Do these people have minds?

That's why other forums are other forums and this one has a collection of users with better judgment. Being they like or they don't, their arguments are always pretty solid. Anyway, it has no point discussing the opinion of others.

 

[mousiehamster]

Sometimes, leaving things unsaid, unspoken, unseen: that is: largely to the imagination is more effective than showing things concretely; this is a concept Togashi understands intimately. Notice how many fights are "off paneled" and the number of characters who have such a reputation without the audience knowing their abilities. This is one of the reasons why I didn't like the Canary filler - it didn't live up to its concept. That said, skipping the entire Kastro fight was probably a compromise due to censorship rather than something done for artistic reasons. As for the way the fight was portrayed, i didn't find it too remarkable - it was okay. The signposting of Kastro's technique was rather unnecessary too. It's just a normal attack infused with nen without any particular qualities and the commentator was there to lend a voice - no need to make things too artificial.

 

[Beans]

Zushi has scarlet eyes!? [Gyo 1999]

We'll see Gye next episode, can't wait.

Spoiler

 

[chei]

^I used to have that problem with Hisoka's voice too, but "my mind" already got used to his new one after I re-read the manga. Don't ask me why, though.

My mental voice for Hisoka is a lot closer to the new voice. The old Hisoka has a very memorable voice, but I could never fit that into my mental image for him. Instead I kept seeing a scrawny Japanese guy with horn rim glasses who dressed up like Kenichi Mikawa at night. When the old Hisoka get 'excited', I burst into laughters instead of getting creeped out. The new Hisoka is very good at the smug/amused lines.

Sometimes, leaving things unsaid, unspoken, unseen: that is: largely to the imagination is more effective than showing things concretely; this is a concept Togashi understands intimately. Notice how many fights are "off paneled" and the number of characters who have such a reputation without the audience knowing their abilities.

Yeah yeah yeah but Kastro vs Hisoka isn't one of these leaving-to-imagination throw away battles. I want to be shown NOT told. Hisoka is too big a personality to for that. And I want to see Hisoka's showmanship, I want to see Hisoka in trouble (such a rare moment in the series). The 1999 series' director made a stupid choice in denying the audience that, Togashi already illustrated the fight in details anyway.

 

[TheAmericandream]

Yea I agree with you here, I think the 1999 series and Togashi have a habit of leaving things unseen in their work. Especially Togashi, its one of the reasons he is able to do more with 1 chapter then just about any other shonen author. But with Hisoka vs Kastro wtf crazy as it was in the 1999 series it just left me confused back then. It wasn't until I read the manga that I understood what went on in that fight, and the reason it really bothers me is because it made Nen and Hisoka's Hatsu unnecessarily complicated and mysterious when in the manga its explained rather thoroughly. I think the larger crime for me actually was how they left out some of the explanation of how Hisoka won, and only kinda glossed over it in episode 41 with Wing explaining it to Gon and Killua. Aside from the change to Mito and Ging's relationship, its my biggest hangup with the 1999 series, so its great seeing it done proper in the new series.

 

[Beans]

Before reading Hisoka vs. Kastro in the manga, there was something I didn't get about Hisoka's Nen ability, for me it was a big problem. my problem was Hisoka's-fake-spider-tattoo!

When I saw Hisoka removing his tattoo I was like how the hell could he do that?
I only got it when I read the fight in the Manga.
They could have explained how he did it in the old version, but they chose not to, and why? no nobody knows.

 

[SHINOBI-03]

Before reading Hisoka vs. Kastro in the manga, there was something I didn't get about Hisoka's Nen ability, for me it was a big problem. my problem was Hisoka's-fake-spider-tattoo!

Spoiler

When I saw Hisoka removing his tattoo I was like how the hell could he do that?
I only got it when I read the fight in the Manga.
They could have explained how he did it in the old version, but they chose not to, and why? no nobody knows.

The upcoming events are all out of the loop in the old version. For crying out loud, they made what's supposed to be the final big fight the next one in the old version. It also made some big contradictions.

Spoiler

-Hisoka gave Gon the condition to fight him if he just won one fight. In the old version he fights him after sensing his aura from the forest. And that's another thing... does nen exist in plants as well?
-All what Gon wanted was to fight Hisoka and give him his badge back. After the fight, there shouldn't be a reason to stay, but they made them fight the 200th floor trio in the fights that were supposed to be before Gon x Hisoka and it was supposed to have Gon's first victory that was also supposed to be fulfilling Hisoka's condition to fight him.
-Machi was supposed to give Hisoka Chrollo's message and that's it. She wasn't supposed to stay any longer. But the old version made her delay message and she also saw Hisoka's fight with Gon. She was not suppoed to know Gon until Yoknew arc.

 

[Beans]

^ You're right, the whole plot was missed up in the old version, censoring the trio's disabilities and skipping Kastro's fight, making the second fight between Gon and Gido meaningless...etc.

 

[futurefrog]

^ You're right, the whole plot was missed up in the old version, censoring the trio's disabilities and skipping Kastro's fight, making the second fight between Gon and Gido meaningless...etc.

Heaven's Arena was for lack of a better term, absolute shit, in the 1999 series. None of it made sense and it caused dozens of plot holes down the line. The only good thing about it is that Furuhashi had mercy and ended the arc quickly. You can just tell that Furuhashi did not care about Gon and Killua all that much and just wanted to get to the Kurapika stuff as quickly as possible. He was nothing short of obsessed with the Kurapika character, so much so that some people I know had believed Kurapika to be the main character from the few eps they watched. It's ridiculous how bad an understanding Furuhashi had of Hunter x Hunter. /End Rage

 

[Diivil]

"Their aura's flow like a serene rivers." - Wing

MANGA

HXH 2011

HXH 1999

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Ten, Zetsu, Ren, Hatsu in the new hxh anime respectively (models: Kastro and Killua):

TEN

ZETSU

REN - (massive) white aura, HATSU - colored aura (hands)

Ten, Zetsu, Ren, Hatsu in the old hxh anime.... none. They're all depicted like this:






Credits: images provided by SHINOBI-03

/nuff said

 

[chei]

I wonder if Madhouse will remain faithful to manga during the arm-fixing/shower sequence. If so will fans of 1999 series complain about the lack of aggressive move Hisoka pull on Machi? How it's so 'disappointing' blah blah?

 

[Buggy]

What I hate the most is that in 30 or so episodes we get 2 or 3 filler recap episodes. I can understand when anime is getting close to manga and has to give time for manga to advance, but now with 340 chapters to work with why was that necessary?

 

[SHINOBI-03]

Heaven's Arena was for lack of a better term, absolute shit, in the 1999 series. None of it made sense and it caused dozens of plot holes down the line. The only good thing about it is that Furuhashi had mercy and ended the arc quickly. You can just tell that Furuhashi did not care about Gon and Killua all that much and just wanted to get to the Kurapika stuff as quickly as possible. He was nothing short of obsessed with the Kurapika character, so much so that some people I know had believed Kurapika to be the main character from the few eps they watched. It's ridiculous how bad an understanding Furuhashi had of Hunter x Hunter. /End Rage

Kurapika IS Furuhashi's favorite character:

- Gave him REAL swords instead of wooden ones
- Made his fight with Hisoka before anyone else AND in full detail.
- Ended the Heavens Arena arc quickly so he can go to Yorknew arc where Kurapika shines.
- Didn't make Kurapika look like a bad guy by making him feel guilt while hurting and killing Uvogin.
- He made Uvogin and Pakunoda haunt his dreams and further make him feel the guilt.
- He didn't want him to live like a cold blooded killer and wanted him to die regretting his actions.

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What I hate the most is that in 30 or so episodes we get 2 or 3 filler recap episodes. I can understand when anime is getting close to manga and has to give time for manga to advance, but now with 340 chapters to work with why was that necessary?

You think that's bad? Watch Chobits (By the same studio). It was 28 episodes and it had 4 recap episodes.