Anime Hunter X Hunter New Anime Discussion

[shareme]

Nah, the 1999 series had pretty good fillers. There were some head scratchers (illumi v. gon and arguably killua's airship filler) but on the whole it added a layer of complexity and richness that the manga did not have (togashi still feeling his way around during the Hunter Exam arc and seriously ill during Yorkshin arc).

What you see as "complexity and richness" is "unnecessary drama" to most of us. HxH doesn't waste time on the frequent and required "friendship speech" that you see from other shounen.

Um, no, Trick Tower wasn't designed to discourage teamwork. It was designed to stress the dynamics of a cooperative endeavor in the backdrop of high tension situations. Contestants can pass safely through the exam by turning on their teammates or by ultimately exercising calm and going through things pragmatically rather than sentimentally. Gon's team managed to make it through by doing precisely that.

This I agree. It boggles my mind how you can see this and remain blind to the 1999 faults and flaws.

Moreover the Battleship fillers are widely regarded as quality stuff.

I disagree. Those who liked the Battleship filler liked it for the fanservice and comedy antics NOT because of its "quality". One thing: the characters are OOC so I don't know where you got the "quality stuff" there.

What I want to know is, why isn't there a GIF of gon Cracking/streching his knuckles before he picked up the tile in the fight with the wheelchair dude? I thaought it was awesome how nonchalant he was XD.

I want that gif too! Gon's so cocky there.

 

[Bomber D Rufi]

Perhaps this is of interest to some people:

Not much here that we don't already know.

It just talks about the disablity three in detail, and the big blue text says 'The promised fight between Gon and Hisoka begins!!' The little tiny text says that Gon cleared Hisoka's conditions, and so he finally fights him. Below that is a teaser saying the 'monumentous' information about the spider's seiyuus will be revealed in the next issue of WSJ (Issue 29.) I think someone else mentioned that being revealed already. If people want me to, once the scans are out, I'll use my amazing seiyuu powers to deduce who will be voicing who. Unless of course someone with mighter seiyuu powers beats me to it. (Or more likely, no one cares.)

 

[Cinnabar]

Wait, what? No HxH next week?

Oh well. Madhouse better makes the wait and anticipation worthwhile. Though judging from the latest episode, they should have no problems with that.

Welcome! To any question I'm the mod of this section. Don't hesitate to PM me whenever you find necessary.

Alright. Thank you~

This was the best image of this episode, I love distorted faces.

I don't know why, but this is what won me over. Of course, the episode itself was awesome, but this part just really stood out for me.

Question:

What do you think makes for good filler or bad filler

I know I've complained more about fillers in the 1999 series than this 2011 series but I have reasons for that

1. The 1999 series has more fillers
2. The fillers in the 1999 series are generally of lesser quality
3. the fillers contradict the manga

But what do you think?

I can't say if I liked the '99 fillers or not since I haven't watched all of them. But based on what I have seen, I do agree with you that the fillers contradict the manga. Though to be fair, the '99 series had less material to work with. They also had a different focus (Kurapika) and interpretation (different characterizations), so they weren't as faithful to the manga to begin with. For me, the fillers were good for what they were: outside material that fills in gaps or pads out existing material (which is not necessarily equal to source material). They're alright as standalones (kinda like fanfictions), but they don't mix well with what is considered canon.

I want Madhouse to add to the anime whatever Togashi couldn't in the manga (for whatever reasons, like page limit). Though I'd accept any filler as long as it doesn't contradict the manga and it's enjoyable.

I want a Kite filler, though.

 

[SHINOBI-03]

I want Madhouse to add to the anime whatever Togashi couldn't in the manga (for whatever reasons, like page limit). Though I'd accept any filler as long as it doesn't contradict the manga and it's enjoyable.

They did with Canary's backstory and and how Kurapika met his master.

 

[Cinnabar]

And I think they did a good job with those! Which is why I hope they add more in the future if they could. Their weakest filler yet was the one where everyone was stuck in a room for 50 hours, but I enjoyed that part too nonetheless.

 

[SHINOBI-03]

And I think they did a good job with those! Which is why I hope they add more in the future if they could. Their weakest filler yet was the one where everyone was stuck in a room for 50 hours, but I enjoyed that part too nonetheless.

Well, the 99 version fans liked the battleship filler and complement the friendship and teamwork the characters had, but I prefer the room filler because it showed us the friendship between Gon and Killua and how they acted like typical kids of their age.

 

[ZonikStrike]

The only filler part I actually hate about 2011 is the Trial Gate. Srsly, wtf? Was there even the need to make them open one gate only together? When Leorio opened two of them and both Kurapika and Gon managed to open one by themselves. That was just stupid and unnecessary.
The Kaito absence is just time question so it isn't much of a deal.
I missed the sushi exam as well tho =(
Another fail is Hisoka's smoke&petals in first episodes. How did he do that huh?
Fillers on the other hand were just great. 50 hours wait was funny, HxH needs those breathers sometimes I think. Canary fight was nice as well. Mizuken was just badass.
1999 had many disturbing fillers. The second episode was so lame (no offense, 1999 fans) that I dropped HxH once before even getting to the best parts. The airship filler was OOC and had no sense for me (maybe cuz I've read manga before continuing the 1999 series). I actually skipped the 3.5 exam filler and don't plan to watch it in the near future, so I have nothing to say about it. I don't remember the foxbear cub filler well but I do remember it wasn't great. The only good filler maybe is Kurapika's one (don't remember it precisely but i didn't hate it).
While slowing the story up with filler moments, Nippon animation just rushed the things starting from Heaven's Arena and missing some important stuff, such as Meteor City avengers' story for example. So if some of 1999 fans say "fast pace isn't always good" they must remember, that Nippon actually failed in that aspect as well.
All in all it's arguable whether Nippon's characterization is deeper when it creates new plotholes while covering the so-called old ones.

 

[Cinnabar]

Well, the 99 version fans liked the battleship filler and complement the friendship and teamwork the characters had, but I prefer the room filler because it showed us the friendship between Gon and Killua and how they acted like typical kids of their age.

To each his own, I suppose. I liked the room filler precisely because of the reasons you said. I imagine it to be dragging to watch for some, but I thought it was kind of fun and lighthearted.

The only filler part I actually hate about 2011 is the Trial Gate. Srsly, wtf? Was there even the need to make them open one gate only together? When Leorio opened two of them and both Kurapika and Gon managed to open one by themselves. That was just stupid and unnecessary.

Oh, I forgot this one. I was disappointed with it 'cause it was supposed to be Leorio's spotlight. The first time I saw it, I thought they were making a point about how the power of friendship overrules Leorio's deserved screentime. Lol.

 

[Demonspeed]

I hope they'll make some Leorio fillers.

 

[mrsticky005]

Nah, the 1999 series had pretty good fillers. There were some head scratchers (illumi v. gon and arguably killua's airship filler) but on the whole it added a layer of complexity and richness that the manga did not have (togashi still feeling his way around during the Hunter Exam arc and seriously ill during Yorkshin arc).



Um, no, Trick Tower wasn't designed to discourage teamwork. It was designed to stress the dynamics of a cooperative endeavor in the backdrop of high tension situations. Contestants can pass safely through the exam by turning on their teammates or by ultimately exercising calm and going through things pragmatically rather than sentimentally. Gon's team managed to make it through by doing precisely that. Moreover the Battleship fillers are widely regarded as quality stuff.

Are you really thinking things through or are you finding an excuse to hate anything that doesn't adhere strictly to the manga?

They were ok fillers at best. And they weren't very complex or layered either.

I completely disagree. Trick Tower WAS designed to break up the team. That's the entire point of the last stage. Choosing the long route meant everyone failed. Choosing the short route meant that only three would pass. So two out of the five HAD to fail according to the rules. Gon was just clever enough to work
around such restrictions. Or do you think that Lippo purposely designed the towers so a person could break through?

Of course it is. But it's really just mediocre at best.

 

[MegamanX195]

The only Madhouse-only thing so far that disappointed me was the Trial Gate filler. Seriously, aside from taking away Leorio's awesomeness, it also made Gon and Kurapika somewhat weaker. The story requires them to be able to push the 2 Ton gates by themselves, and that IMO is the only inexcusable flaw.

Of course, I also prefer to believe Gon, Kurapika and Leorio did the same thing they did in the manga off-screen when they were coming back after they got Killua. Yeah, I like providing explanations/excuses where there is none a lot of the time.

 

[Crude]

What we really need is "The Misadventures of Leorio Paladiknight" fillers!

 

[mrsticky005]

What we really need is "The Misadventures of Leorio Paladiknight" fillers!

Even better have that as a tv series and move hxh2011 to a later time slot and replace whatever is there...Let's see. The 6'o clock news probably isn't very important!

 

[Demonspeed]

What we really need is "The Misadventures of Leorio Paladiknight" fillers!

I want Kurapika and Leorio's Huncyclopedia!

About Phantom Troupe VA will they give the name of Bono's VA because he won't speak for a while!

We can hope a change time slot in 4weeks. Some animes of this season will finish at the same week as Heavens Arena arc. If it happens York Shin and Chimera ants will be excellent!

 

[ZonikStrike]

O_o I found the Heavens' Arena!
http://www.annatoporovsky.com/userfiles/Dubai,Tower(1).jpg
Has anybody mentioned this already?

 

[mousiehamster]

They were ok fillers at best. And they weren't very complex or layered either.

Guess it's you against me on this one. The consensus is that it's pretty good.

I completely disagree. Trick Tower WAS designed to break up the team. That's the entire point of the last stage. Choosing the long route meant everyone failed. Choosing the short route meant that only three would pass. So two out of the five HAD to fail according to the rules. Gon was just clever enough to work
around such restrictions. Or do you think that Lippo purposely designed the towers so a person could break through?

It just so happened that they had virtually no time left. Why do you assume that every passage way for every contestant consists of pitting teams up against each other? There's going to be friction - no doubt the exam was engineered to cause teams to conflict - but the point is to persevere. Otherwise why bother with the vote watches? Why not just reduce the entire thing to a deathmatch? How do you think the Amori brothers got through the whole thing?

What you see as "complexity and richness" is "unnecessary drama" to most of us. HxH doesn't waste time on the frequent and required "friendship speech" that you see from other shounen.

Who is "most of us"? People that dislike the 1999 series purely because it wasn't 100% faithful to the material? Why is the series so critically well regarded?

This I agree. It boggles my mind how you can see this and remain blind to the 1999 faults and flaws.

Fault as in adapting the manga in a specific way?

I disagree. Those who liked the Battleship filler liked it for the fanservice and comedy antics NOT because of its "quality". One thing: the characters are OOC so I don't know where you got the "quality stuff" there.

...what comedy? The room swaps? I bet you just skipped right through it coz it wasn't in the manga.

 

[Kamen Rider Dragon]

I want Kurapika and Leorio's Huncyclopedia!

We can hope a change time slot in 4weeks. Some animes of this season will finish at the same week as Heavens Arena arc. If it happens York Shin and Chimera ants will be excellent!

Where did you get the from? The show does great in the slot it's in. Why would they mess with that?

 

[ZonikStrike]

Otherwise why bother with the vote watches? Why not just reduce the entire thing to a deathmatch? How do you think the Amori brothers got through the whole thing?

Majority vote was only one path of many that could have been chosen.

People that dislike the 1999 series purely because it wasn't 100% faithful to the material?
Fault as in adapting the manga in a specific way?

Being not faithful to the source material is a very big flaw in my opinion. At least we can say for sure it is not a plus.

...what comedy? The room swaps? I bet you just skipped right through it coz it wasn't in the manga.

I don't remember him saying that it was.

 

[Demonspeed]

Where did you get the from? The show does great in the slot it's in. Why would they mess with that?

This is just a supposition.I know that the anime is great, but it would be better if they change the slot.

 

[Kamen Rider Dragon]

Who is "most of us"? People that dislike the 1999 series purely because it wasn't 100% faithful to the material? Why is the series so critically well regarded?
Fault as in adapting the manga in a specific way?

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That's not the reason. The spotty and inconsistent character development is the reason. Even the 2011 series isn't 100% faithful. You can still have filler and be faithful to the spirit of the show.