Is Ace really Luffy's brother?

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maybe oda hadnt had him in mind back then, but i dont think that this Portagas last name is just a mistake/something without reason Oda made. It doesnt have to be something of big importance, but it is just a "something".
 

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in the mind of Oda noting is a "something" (that doesnt make perfect sence but what ever) it will become of so import later and it will be nothin we could have seen coming
 

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Portgas D. Shanks... LOL :s
No way... can't be.
My guess is that the event ace triggered will be when whitebeard discovers BB beat ace. Not killed .. Beat. There now i'm on topic.
Lets face it whitebeard making anykind of move will be astounding. Now if BB hands Ace over to the world govt. And becomes a shinchibukai. Then whitebeard moving against BB would be Whitebeard moving against the world govt.
That would be Insane. And would also be a huge event. The worlds strongest man and the man closest to becoming pirate king .. attacking the world govt. :o
This thought of mine gets really interesting when you stop and consider that A certain REVOLUTIONARY, Who is also surprisingly also connected to luffy, would probably be very interested in anyone of importance making a move on the world govt. :spaz
A event of this magnitude could tie together 90 - 100% of the threads in one piece.

Also we have no clue what shanks last name is. Or if it's even important. But I hope he isn't a D. I don't want all the cool strong people (not mugiwara's) to be D.'s!!
 

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no!!
that would make Luffy's crew look weak again...
I mean right now the Mugiwara crew is the only one that has waged war on the World Government :noworry

anyways you could be right Anti-Panda
 

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Hm...Well, I could kind of see that happening. I'd kinda rather it didn't, but I could still see it happening.

We are KINDA getting off topic....and I have no idea how to get back on, either.
 

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well If
Ace really was killed by Blackbeard...
it won't be as dramatic :scry
anyways now that i remember Ace has too many traits like tho of Luffy and Garp...
and could be he got his politeness from Dragon :noworry
so it can't be doubted....
but then again He has a different name....
but then again the Mayor of Luffy's Village did sa y all three generations were bad so it can be assumed he was talking about Dragon, Ace and Luffy....
 

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Mugen said:
but then again the Mayor of Luffy's Village did sa y all three generations were bad so it can be assumed he was talking about Dragon, Ace and Luffy....
but if u go by generations it cant be those three cuz luffy and ace are in the same generation. it would be Garp(grandfather), Dragon(father), and Ace/Luffy(son) see how that goes.
 

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but Garp is no trouble or menace...
he's a marine :noworry
 

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i think that what he ment by that was that grap is a prob because hes allowing his son and grandsons to run aroung wild and not do anything to stop them (so they think)

i did think that they were blood related but that says that luffy is the strongest man from teh east blue but ace has a higher bounty so that would mean that a) noone from home liked ace or b) ace didnt live with luffy and they ment while traing and are only brother is the sence of the word not by blood
 

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AWW!!!
why did Oda make something so simple complicated? :scry
anyways if Ace was adopted who or where was he from?
and is he still a D. if he's not Luffy's brother?
 

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just cause you have the D doesnt make you blood reletives just related to the Will of D and thus like brothers

Oda likes to mess with us that is why he made it complicated

and the two of them had to meet some time and that as at the trainging with garp so he could be from anywhere and garp just found him and trained him like his own grandson like he did with coby and hellempo in the mini arc
 

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yeah so he's not his brother...
well that sucks....
but then again would explain why Ace really doesn't have an ego :rofl
 

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did i just change your choice cause in the prosses i changed mine i went wihth yes but now im thinking no
 

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no i'm neutral about it :noworry
I mean I want Ace to be Luffy's blood brother but i won't be dissapointed if he's not...
I mean Ace is too great to not have his own crew...
I mean as great as Whitebeard is, he's a giant....and in his last days...
and he's not deserving of Ace :noworry
 

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true but it would cause alot more problems in the OP world if he had a crew what with his dad, grampa, shanks (like father) and if his bro had a crew he would have to fight him and beat him too its better this way but i would want to see who would be on it
 

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well he is gonna have to fight Luffy if Mugiwaras and whitebeard fight...
so it wouldn't make a difference if he has his own crew....
Ace had some lame words cool, but really lame I mean can somebody explain to me how whitebeard has not become Pirate King? and his time is almost done....
anyways I hope Shanks finishes Whitbeard's era and Ace starts his crew and no more of this
 

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Okay, here's my idea. When Garp is talking about leaving Luffy and Ace on the island, he mentions another name as well. I don't recall this name, whether it was male or female. So two possibilities. Their mother's surname, or the surname of the person Garp left them with is Portgas, and because Dragon is the most wanted man in the world, of course they'd have to hide the name Monkey. So why then is Luffy still "Monkey D. Luffy"? Think about his personality, especially when he was a kid. If he didn't want to change his surname, he wasn't going to change his surname! Ace seems more sensible and would have complied.

(you may wonder if Luffy would have been too young to make that decision, but there's the picture of Luffy when Garp is "training/being cruel" to him, and he's not incredibly young. And taht would have been before the point that Garp left them with the friend on the island. Plenty old enough to be stubborn about having to change his name.)

Correction: it was the mayor that mentioned the other person, who's name is Dadan.
 

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but what would be the reason for Ace changing his name?
and if he did he must've done so when he was little....
anyways if Ace isn't Luffy's brother is he still a D.?
cuz then he would be adopted into the D. family...
 

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The reason I believe that they MUST be related in some way (and closely related) is that Ace spontaneously falls asleep just like Garp, and we know that Garp is Luffy's grandpa (this trait is more prevelant than it is in Luffy, and no seen in anyone else so far. It's Oda's way of showing the close relation.) If they're not full brothers, then maybe half brothers, though a situation to cause that seems unlikely for One Piece. If they're not brothers at all, then maybe cousins, and for some reason Garp took both of them in.
 

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so they are not brothers :scry
anyways I wonder if there is another Portgas?
 
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