Is Ace really Luffy's brother?

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In the end I'm saying the are brothers (at the very least they are closely related)
 

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but the that would mean they are not blood related :oh
which is what i'm asking :noworry
I mean it just would be stupid for Ace to have a different name....for no reason
 

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evozoku said somethink I was think too...

maybe Ace change his name cuz Dragon is the most wanted criminal in the world and Gast an adimiral marine...so he just doesnt want that everybody knows that he has a relationship with then (both are Monkey D. )
 

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that would be a pretty dumb reason
and if it was true why would Luffy not say anything about Ace changing his Name when they met again in Alabasta?
 

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are you saying that because I say that it's possible they're not brothers that they're not blood related (cousins would be blood related too)?

I'm saying the reason Ace changed his name is because when they were young, whoever was watching over them changed their name to protect them (following?). So, why is Luffy still Monkey then? Because he refused to change it! It's just a theory, but Luffy would be stubborn like that. Ace is the more sensible one and would have either obeyed or understood why they were told to go by the name Portgas instead.
 

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I mean over that?
Dragon was not considered a major threat to the world government till like 5 years ago in the One Piece world...
and I doubt Ace chaged his name cuz of that I mean Ace is a pirate I mean he'll already be a criminal so what difference would it make?
 

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It could also be that Ace is Luffy's step brother assuming the whole Monkey D, and Portagas D. Other than that Ace has to be Luffy's bro.
 

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yeah but i'm saying it wuold mean that ......
some weird stuff was going on in One Piece
anyways I'm sure that if there is a reason for Ace having a different last name is cuz of his mom or he's not really Luffy's brother :noworry
 

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Mugen said:
yeah but i'm saying it wuold mean that ......
some weird stuff was going on in One Piece
anyways I'm sure that if there is a reason for Ace having a different last name is cuz of his mom or he's not really Luffy's brother :noworry
Well considering they were both in Garps care they share a Grandpa soo... If luffy and Ace have different parents ... it can only be thier mother ... because they are linked to garp through dragon. Otherwise they would have different grandparents.
 

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First, Dragon was only considered a major threat starting 5 years ago? Second, I agree with Anti-panda that Garp has to be both their grandpa, but if they have different mothers, they would still have the same surname, since they still have the common father.

I've diagramed this out, and assuming Garp is the grandpa of both of them, their are only 2 possibilities:

1. Ace changed his surname (most likely by far)

2. Garp has a son AND DAUGHTER (Ace's mother), and so Ace would have a different surname. Of course in this situation they would then be cousins, and would the D. name still be inherited from the mother? (so I think this one is unlikely)
 

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at Wednesday i wrote my pre-final exams in biology.
for training I made a crossing sheme about the narcolepsy in Ruffy’s family.
it is no real proof, that Ace is Ruffy’s full brother, because there are many “what if”’s in it. but it’s kinda funny :smile-big



Garp at first is homozygous and if he is so, Dragon has to have this narcolepsy too.



the chance of having narcolepsy is about 50%. and both, Ace and Ruffy, have it.

ah, I hope those pictures will work :p
 

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yeah Ace has too many similarities with Garp and Dragon to not be related to them.
I mean you can't get narcolepsy just cuz someone you know has it...
so it has to be DNA trait meaning he is related to them :)
 

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i say so.
but this sheme is just fun, nothing serious.
i just thought, one proof of their brotherhood has to be this family desease, it is a blood preasure problem in my opinion.
i think the key is this narcolepsy
 

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I think I want them to be brothers because if dragon turns out as cool as we all think he is. That would make Luffy / Ace's family potentially the most Bada$$ one on the planet. Any planet!!!
Garp = Coolest Grandpa/marine we've met yet.
Dragon = Worlds most hated enemy of the world govt. and well he's just awsome.
Portgas D. Ace = Coolest logia user we've met yet. And strong as hell.
Monkey D. Luffy = The man who will be pirate king.
---???-----
Dragons wife/luffy/aces mom = ?????
Garps wife = ????
Luffy's sister= who the hell knows????? maybe??? probably not.
 

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okay, off topic: Saying "Ruffy" instead of "Luffy" annoys the hell out of me. Where do people get Ruffy from? Is that what they call him in the english dubs, or is it certain sub groups? And I believe Oda has specifically said that it's "Luffy", not "Ruffy".
 

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evozoku said:
okay, off topic: Saying "Ruffy" instead of "Luffy" annoys the hell out of me. Where do people get Ruffy from? Is that what they call him in the english dubs, or is it certain sub groups? And I believe Oda has specifically said that it's "Luffy", not "Ruffy".
you should like watch the Japanese version sometimes......
anyways I think that's how some people pronounce his name in others areas of the world
And why are you so mad over something small? :(
 

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ah, sorry, Ruffy's from germany.
i'm trying to use luffy, but i'm just used to the "r". :tem
by the way in japan is no difference between "l" and "r"
 

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i hope that are all from the same family cause that would like anti-panda said the most B.A. in the OP world
i want ace to have more cool family like his mom and sis are working together as a shichbukai and i think garps wife is an elder or something i could see that (but then agian a part of me wants luffy mom to be a normal person that is so worried about her "baby")
 

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I'm not really mad, it just bothers me. And all I've ever watched is the japanese version subbed by fan groups. And see, it just happens that it's a by country thing (Germany calls him Ruffy), so no biggy, just wondering where people get that from. Anyway, sorry to go so far off topic.
 

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evozoku said:
I'm not really mad, it just bothers me. And all I've ever watched is the japanese version subbed by fan groups. And see, it just happens that it's a by country thing (Germany calls him Ruffy), so no biggy, just wondering where people get that from. Anyway, sorry to go so far off topic.
As long as people love One piece and all that small grammaticall error's can easily slide by me ...It's the annoying people who only have 12 post and all they contribute is something like "Thiz Chappy Sux BIG time... Enel pwns' u r soul!!" x 12 ... those people them we could loose and it wouldn't hurt. Grammar / spelling issues = No big Deal.
now Back on topic.
Since Luffy isn't prone to talking about others in such a way. I doubt he used the word brother in a ambigious way. He probably really is blood relative to ace.
 
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