Discussion Is the Straw Hat Crew complete with Jinbe?

[Ace4]

Hi everybody

I remember there were always these heated discussions about who the next member of the straw hats would be. I am aware that Luffy had once said that 10 members would be enough and he has a Grand Fleet now as well. But do you think that the crew is now complete and any new people that are met might join the Grand Fleet with their complete crew but not the Straw Hats? Would there be any useful roles for new members? E.g. Kinemon could be the tailor of the crew.

 

[Don Chao]

What do they need now? A strategy man? They have Vice Captain, Sharp Shooter, Chef, Navigator, Doctor, Archeologist, Carpenter, Musician, Helmsman. Luffy has also had good relationship with Kingdom and not to mention that Straw Hat Grand Fleet.

In term of story, it is like only a quarter left, so new crew will be a very short journey.

Only one factor can be use to weighing new crew recruitment, it is the link between Wano and history maker. If any new member it should be someone from Wano Country. Denjiro would be good. He is the smartest one.

 

[Ratedhook522]

But remembere that there's also the title of pirate apprentice that both Kaido and Marco had when they first joined their respective crews. Kaido later started the beast pirates while Marco just stayed with the white beard pirates becoming their first division commander. It's possible the next and last member may join under the title of pirate apprentice.

 

[M3J]

What do they need now? A strategy man? They have Vice Captain, Sharp Shooter, Chef, Navigator, Doctor, Archeologist, Carpenter, Musician, Helmsman. Luffy has also had good relationship with Kingdom and not to mention that Straw Hat Grand Fleet.

In term of story, it is like only a quarter left, so new crew will be a very short journey.

Only one factor can be use to weighing new crew recruitment, it is the link between Wano and history maker. If any new member it should be someone from Wano Country. Denjiro would be good. He is the smartest one.

Sanji and JInbei are strategy men.

I don't think Luffy will get any new crew member. None so far seem unique enough or stand out enough to be a part of the crew. Denjiro wouldn't really make sense either, but I wouldn't be surprised if Momo became the next member just as an apprentice or to learn like his dad did, while his sister becomes a shogun. or vice versa.

 

[Don Chao]

Sanji and JInbei are strategy men.

I don't think Luffy will get any new crew member. None so far seem unique enough or stand out enough to be a part of the crew. Denjiro wouldn't really make sense either, but I wouldn't be surprised if Momo became the next member just as an apprentice or to learn like his dad did, while his sister becomes a shogun. or vice versa.

Sure, but before Momo join, Luffy must find out the exact way to Laugh Tale so that Momo will only be joining the great voyage to Laugh Tale. Learning what in the void century and lead the Wano Samurais to assist Luffy in the Final War.

But ya, 10 with Luffy is already good. Databook said #10 is Jinbei, #11 is Merry, #12 is Sunny, #13 is Vivi, #14 is Gol D Roger.

 

[thedude]

Sanji and JInbei are strategy men.

I don't think Luffy will get any new crew member. None so far seem unique enough or stand out enough to be a part of the crew. Denjiro wouldn't really make sense either, but I wouldn't be surprised if Momo became the next member just as an apprentice or to learn like his dad did, while his sister becomes a shogun. or vice versa.

Momo's problem is he is 8 years old, way too young. If he comes along, that means Kin coming along as well most likely. He's not just 8, he is a weak 8, he's not like Ace and Luffy and Sabo when they were training and getting decently strong as kids.

Having said that, I also don't see Kin joining, he's been away from his home and his wife for 20 years. going on to leave her again to be a pirate just seems wrong.

 

[chess4]

Kinemon will not survive this arc. Jimbe was in 3 arcs before he joined. I am not saying that has to be the case with other characters, but we had some time to get use to Jimbe and his character before he joins. I think the only known character that could join is Carrot as the look out.

 

[Bigten10]

My guess is Vivi or carrot

But I don’t know why but I want Kuzan to join luffy crew

 

[kkck]

I'd say that the strawhat crew right now is pretty much complete. It fits into the original amount luffy wanted. That said, I always found jinbe to be a weird fit for the crew. On the off chance that oda wants more people on the crew (less than 0.00001% of that being the case unless someone dies IMO) it'd have to be one of the scabbards, to see whatever it is that oden saw all those years back and perhaps see it to completion.

 

[M3J]

Sure, but before Momo join, Luffy must find out the exact way to Laugh Tale so that Momo will only be joining the great voyage to Laugh Tale. Learning what in the void century and lead the Wano Samurais to assist Luffy in the Final War.

But ya, 10 with Luffy is already good. Databook said #10 is Jinbei, #11 is Merry, #12 is Sunny, #13 is Vivi, #14 is Gol D Roger.

Why? One point of MOmo joining is for him to get stronger, not just for Raftel. How can he lead the samurai if he isn't strong enough? But then again, this depends on how long Oda wants to give to the story, as I assume even if the adventure is 4 years, it's still not enough for Momo.

Momo's problem is he is 8 years old, way too young. If he comes along, that means Kin coming along as well most likely. He's not just 8, he is a weak 8, he's not like Ace and Luffy and Sabo when they were training and getting decently strong as kids.

Having said that, I also don't see Kin joining, he's been away from his home and his wife for 20 years. going on to leave her again to be a pirate just seems wrong.

He can get stronger, and with Luffy and others, he's safe enough and can train with the Monster Quartet.

Agreed. Why would Kinemon join anyway? What does he offer?

 

[Ace4]

Why? One point of MOmo joining is for him to get stronger, not just for Raftel. How can he lead the samurai if he isn't strong enough? But then again, this depends on how long Oda wants to give to the story, as I assume even if the adventure is 4 years, it's still not enough for Momo.


He can get stronger, and with Luffy and others, he's safe enough and can train with the Monster Quartet.

Agreed. Why would Kinemon join anyway? What does he offer?

Well Kinemon could be the tailor with his fruit. I also like the idea of Momo joining as an apprentice. They have been with the mugiwaras a long time together anyway (~300 chapters). I doubt that Denjiro or anybody else from the retainers could join just lilke that. Maybe Carrot to give a Mink to the crew (as Pet).

 

[kkck]

Momo is too young to join even as an apprentice... Even shanks was at least a teenager when he became an apprentice to roger. The strawhats getting an apprentice would be nice though it would be weird if he isn't at least a teenager.

 

[woefdram]

Kinemon will not survive this arc. Jimbe was in 3 arcs before he joined. I am not saying that has to be the case with other characters, but we had some time to get use to Jimbe and his character before he joins. I think the only known character that could join is Carrot as the look out.

I don't know though. Carrot is that annoying friend that becomes part of your friend group due to pure persistence.

That panel where her and nami hugged Jinbe annoyed the crap out of me. WHY DOES CARROT THINK SHE HAS A RIGHT TO JOIN IN WITH THE CREW?!?

Anyway, I think Carrot joining would be flimsy and poor storytelling. Sure it would help sell extra toys, but carrot as a character has added nowhere near what all the other crew members have added.

if she gets a nice arc, she's welcome. If she becomes part of the crew purely because she clung on for ages I think she'd be a poor excuse for a nakama.

You pointed out Jinbe lasted for three arc and I think him joining the crew has been justified in so many ways (impel down, carrying Luffy after ace died, blood transfusion, BM sacrifice)

if we would get another nakama, which I think would make sense, it needs to be someone who has this emotional connection to Luffy/the crew

 

[thedude]

Why? One point of MOmo joining is for him to get stronger, not just for Raftel. How can he lead the samurai if he isn't strong enough? But then again, this depends on how long Oda wants to give to the story, as I assume even if the adventure is 4 years, it's still not enough for Momo.


He can get stronger, and with Luffy and others, he's safe enough and can train with the Monster Quartet.

Agreed. Why would Kinemon join anyway? What does he offer?

The only reason i mention Kinemon is i don't see Momo joining without a Scabbard by his side.

 

[kkck]

if we would get another nakama, which I think would make sense, it needs to be someone who has this emotional connection to Luffy/the crew

In theory there isn't that much story left at least. The battle against kaido is going to last a decent while as far as i can tell but it does look like we are past a point where a new character can get its own story arc in order to join the strawhats. if someone joins my final wager would be a scabbard who aims to see oden's vision to fruition. Kinemon would still make the most sense to me given the time he has been with luffy along with the fact that he has pretty good chemistry with the crew in general (I would argue even much better than jinbe).

 

[Fox666]

The crew is complete with Jinbe.

But that panel with Carrot hugging Jinbe, along with the Strawhats, heavily suggests that her joining is inevitable.

The build up for someone to join increased over time. While Luffy simply asked Zoro to join on a whim, Jinbe relationship with Luffy has been cooked for 400 chapters.

Since the manga is near completion, it's very unlikely anyone will join the crew, except in some prologue akin to the first Romance Down with Crescent Moon pirate.

So the only ones left are the likes of Carrot, Kinemon and the alike who have traveled with the Strawhats for a few arcs.

Since Jinbe is closer to the monster trio, and Carrot is on par with Franky, Robin and Brook, I'm guessing there will be another weak member, along with Usopp, Nami and Chopper? Is that Vivi?

 

[M3J]

Well Kinemon could be the tailor with his fruit. I also like the idea of Momo joining as an apprentice. They have been with the mugiwaras a long time together anyway (~300 chapters). I doubt that Denjiro or anybody else from the retainers could join just lilke that. Maybe Carrot to give a Mink to the crew (as Pet).

Why would the Straw Hats need a tailor? The only two or three that can infiltrate/sneak in already do a great job of doing so, but other than that and potential strength, Kinemon doesn't seem to add much.

I mean, using length as a criteria doesn't work as same applied to Vivi but she never joined, while Jinbei has barely been with the crew but still joined. Chopper is considered a pet and does add to the crew, while Carrot doesn't. Feel free to correct me though.

if we would get another nakama, which I think would make sense, it needs to be someone who has this emotional connection to Luffy/the crew

I think I agree with the rest of your post as well.
But to add, as per most of the crew members, new potentials would have to fit in with the dynamics of the crew with their own quirks and add to the crew and to the storyline. Like, Nami is a great navigator who wants to map the world, but she also is greedy (good for the crew) and adds humor with that and by being serious and mature (usually), yelling at the Straw Hats if they act out. Robin is mature too, but she usually puts up with their antics and finds humor in it, and she also has a dark take on things that's even funnier because of Usopp's reactions. On top of that, she adds knowledge to the crew and wants to learn about the Void Century, which is likely at Raftel, which would help out Luffy.

How would Carrot fit here? Momo I admit wouldn't fit entirely as he can't fight too well right now, and Kinemon definitely wouldn't fit.

 

[HereNThere]

My serious argument for Carrot? She's probably going to continue Pedro's childhood want to sail with Roger. But since Roger isn't here, Luffy is the next best thing. Pedro referred to himself as the night before the dawn and the foundation. Carrot will be the witness to the results of Pedro's sacrifice.

 

[McNuss]

I'd say that the strawhat crew right now is pretty much complete. It fits into the original amount luffy wanted. That said, I always found jinbe to be a weird fit for the crew. On the off chance that oda wants more people on the crew (less than 0.00001% of that being the case unless someone dies IMO) it'd have to be one of the scabbards, to see whatever it is that oden saw all those years back and perhaps see it to completion.

The reason why Jinbe fits perfectly is because he has a strong bonding moment with Luffy, which is when he saves Luffy from killing himself after Marineford. (Still one of my favorite chapters by the way).

This is also what all the other characters lack. Carrot had good chances during WCI but it didn't happen, and she has been absent from most of Wano Arc so far. The scabbards also lack these moments, the best candidate here would be Kin'emon, but he is kind of Momonosuke's adoptive dad now.

I think as it currently looks like, the only possible candidate is Vivi, who is technically already a member. That would depend on how the Levely plotline plays out, but it could play out with WG assassins forcing her to seek protection.

 

[M3J]

Imagine Jinbei being seen as the only normal crew member, despite being a Fishman. That'd be a great addition. Vivi I can't see becoming a Straw Hat as her best chance was during the Alabasta Arc, when she had fewer responsibilities.