Gray had pof against invel. We dont say he is around wahl robot tier. Because he got stopped by one.
Um, Gray only got stopped by that robot because it was his exact counter, the second he swapped with Juvia he trashed it.
Jellal one shotting nienhart was also pof
How was that POF? Genuinely curious. All that happened was he got enraged, charged a spell (that changed the entire skyline) and then hit Neinhart and his ship. If anything Jellal's one feat in this arc got ruined because of chap 500 where
base Natsu one-shotted Neinhart with an unnamed punch whilst making a POF speech. So yeah, not seeing how Jellal's feat in Hargeon was POF..
Laxus killing wahl was also pof
Agreed here, Red Lightning came out of nowhere. That said, he has been hyped to be capable of casually one-shotting Spriggans, so you can't exactly discredit the guy.
Erza overpowering irene top tier move was also pof
Definitely agreed here.
Wendy helped erza side step irene immunity. The brute strength was erza alone
Wendy enchanted her sword with Dragon Slaying magic, that was the main thing that allowed Erza to beat Irene (besides the metric shit ton of POF), you can't claim it was Erza's power that made the difference against Dragon-Irene when she had to rely on Wendy's power.
You will never see them giving erza feats which she doesnt have. Which they might do for others
Such as? I don't often take part in Erza theads so again, genuine question.
They will question hype relating to erzs one billion times
That's why people think everyone can stop deus sema after they saw erza do it
People question Erza's hype because she's the poster girl for POF. After Erza vs Azuma, Erza vs Kyoka and Erza vs Irene, you can hardly blame people for being skeptical. And this is doubly true in the case of her slicing Deus Sema, as she was nearing it she spouted off a friendship speech, naturally people are going to call BS on it, especially considering that every bone in her body (bar her right arm) was broken. Add on the fact that she went on to knock Irene out of her dragon form... yeah, I really don't see how you can blame them. Because it's either:
- An Erza that's been battered by Ajeel, battered by Historias, battered by Berserkers, battered by Irene's enchantment blasts, with ALL of her bones broken can break a meteor whilst healthy top tiers can't.
Or
- That Meteor is weak sauce unless it hits the ground, and can be broken before it arrives.
I think we both know which is more logical out of those two options.
While hype for jellal or laxus will be accepted in first go. Even if rest of hypes are being proven false.
Wait.. are you genuinely saying that hype for Jellal is just accepted? Are you having a giggle?
This is the same Jellal that constantly gets the piss taken out of him because he had one good feat that was turned into a laughing stock after chapter 500. In fact, people tend to ignore that he:
- Reacted to and intercepted Neinhart's nuke when Erza and Kagura only noticed it last second
- Hardly had any damage done to him by Neinhart's nuke (he was pinned underwater by an anchor, of course he's going to be unconscious)
Seriously, Jellal may still have some people that still buy his hype, but even his fans (me included) admit that his feats haven't been spectacular.
As for Laxus he has feats to back his hype up, even though I think he's overhyped by some, it's flat out laughable to say that his hype has been proven false when he's been portrayed to one-shot Spriggans and actually did one-shot one the second he got passed his immunity.
Even ignoring those points, the reason why their hype is bought is because they've always been top-tiers in previous arcs, and while that may be about to change (I obvious want Jellal to stay top-tier, but it's looking less and less likely) you can't blame people for being cautious about Jellal seeing as how we've only seen two different extremes from him (one-shotting a Spriggan and being stomped by August), and all we've seen from Laxus is him one-shotting a Spriggan and him being hyped as one-shotting another.
Do make note that the Spriggan Laxus was hyped to one-shot was the same Spriggan that would have killed Erza.
Also, why did you bring in Laxus?
Remember sema hype from gmg arc. How many fans were impressed by it?
Yeah, but Sema hype is completely different, the reasons people were hyped for Sema in GMG was because:
- Jura crapped himself at the mere sight of the gathering clouds (and back then, Jura was the one to beat)
- Ultear had to interrupt him or it would blow his cover (so it's a big spell)
- It was a new Heavenly Body spell (they've always been cool and pretty damned powerful)
Besides, we only saw the gathering of clouds in GMG, meaning that people would have had crazy ideas as for what it was. Basically, the hype is similar to the GOI only Sema actually delivered when we saw it in Tartaros.
I dont know why you cant see erza being stronger than jellal. Jellal was never stronger than erza. They were canonically around each other level since the start
What? Canonically around each other from the start? Jellal would have killed her in the ToH had she been left to fight him, the only reason she survived then was thanks to Natsu showing up to help and Simon blocking Altaris, and for most of that fight Jellal was restricting himself so that he wouldn't bust the tower. On top of that, no way were they equals in the GMG, the fight between Jellal and Jura heavily hinted that Sema would either outright KO Jura or heavily injure him, on the other hand Mira said she wasn't sure if her and Erza
together could beat him.
With this being said, it doesn't really matter as pre-skip feats are useless now, and seeing all the foreshadowing that has been left, Jellal is likely to face August again with help, which is where we'll get to see his actual power level (unless Mashima wants to troll him more of course).
Its only matter of time before mishma makes main character surpass others.
Mishma alread hinted with Deus sema
Mashima hinted with Deus Sema? Not really, consider this:
Erza hasn't even seen Jellal use Sema before. All she saw was the gathering of clouds in the GMG, then it got interrupted. Not meaning to bash Irene, but Erza hyping up Deus Sema as stronger than Jellal's Sema means absolutely nothing as she hasn't seen the latter...
