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What exactly does "kaido" mean? I feel like I am missing something here.
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To me he's just like Steven Spielberg's Captain Hook, only nearly indestructible: he really, really want to feel that thrill again.
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I've seen a few theories, and I think in one of those it was stated that one possible meaning was "church", but I'm not entirely sure.
"Kai" also means "release"/"open", right? At least that's what it is in Bleach.
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Does anyone else think that its not a coincidece that Luffy spent those years training and defeating extremely powerful beasts. And now The Worlds Strongest Beast has shown himself. Im so ready for a Luffy Vs Kaido battle
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it was mentioned he's a mythical zoan as well right
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Who Kaido? Nope.
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hm mb then
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We know nothing of his power at the moment, or that if he's even a user.
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we only know right now that he is the freaking suicidal beast lol he only wants to die but still he cant find any way to die.
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Its unlikely he is a DF user... with times he has been captured by the marines, he would have been tied with Kairoseki and that would make escaping impossible... it also dilutes his power level more than anything..
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Well maybe he got the luck-luck-fruit. 
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To be fair, tying him down with kairoseki should have made his escape impossible even if he wasn't a fruit user. As far as we know kairoseki cannot be broken by anything.
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After all the awakening hype I really believe Kaido must have a devil fruit, especially he has an army of fruit users.
Maybe his devil fruit is a Dragon that can fly, and that explains how he was able to reach sky lands. That dragon fruit resembles the failed experiment (momonosuke) and thats why he is important to Doflamingo. He also has that dragon scale tattoo on his arm which could be foreshadowing.
Also probably he can breath under water just like fishmen since he's not human to begin with, so even if he has a devil fruit, that only makes his weight too heavy to swim so he only ends up walking underwater.
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Here is the Chinese Dragon, resembles Kaido's face, beards and horns. Also it is the same version of Momonosuke's failed smile fruit. Thats why Momonosuke is important experiment.
Maybe his devil fruit is a Dragon that can fly, and that explains how he was able to reach sky lands. That dragon fruit resembles the failed experiment (momonosuke) and thats why he is important to Doflamingo. He also has that dragon scale tattoo on his arm which could be foreshadowing.
Also probably he can breath under water just like fishmen since he's not human to begin with, so even if he has a devil fruit, that only makes his weight too heavy to swim so he only ends up walking underwater.
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Here is the Chinese Dragon, resembles Kaido's face, beards and horns. Also it is the same version of Momonosuke's failed smile fruit. Thats why Momonosuke is important experiment.
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He might have a df which is a amphibian zoan type. So can breath under water and also walk on land. It might be some mystical creature.
Can dragons breath under water? If Oda makes Kaido fight kid alliance then we might be able to see what his powers are. Hopefully.
Can dragons breath under water? If Oda makes Kaido fight kid alliance then we might be able to see what his powers are. Hopefully.
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I still think he'll ally with the guys in front of him rofl
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I've seen some people say Kaido survived all that stuff because of his durability but I think he has fate or destiny on his side and he can't die.
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i cant be bothered to go edit op......Can any of you mods give me a nice badass kaidoh pic in OP
and keep it black and white...colour schemes arent confirmed, kaidoh could be fucking pink
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and for those wondering what kaidoh really is and why he isnt dead..here's my theory
and keep it black and white...colour schemes arent confirmed, kaidoh could be fucking pink
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and for those wondering what kaidoh really is and why he isnt dead..here's my theory
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Kaido's Ability
Shortly after the Straw Hats’ arrival in Dressrosa, Luffy had tried to fly Momonosuke because of the flying ability that Momonosuke had displayed and used unconsciously to save both Luffy and himself from remaining in the pit wherein Luffy first stumbled upon him
, but Momonosuke dreadfully and loudly rejected the idea of flying ‘again’ through the 'skies' despite having no memory of the time when he had flown out of the pit together with Luffy, wherein there was no 'sky'.
While he was about to shout his rejection of such idea, Momonosuke was recalling somebody’s hand reaching out to grab him.
That event from his memory appears to be the cause of his aviophobia(fear of flying). The person from his flashback is suggested to have a flying ability, and the Dragon Devil Fruit possesses a flying ability.
When Momo was loudly rejecting the idea of flying again, his father was composedly listening to what was happening with no sign of surprise. This indicates that his father is aware of the misfortune that befell Momo. This further suggests that this had happened long before both Momo’s consumption of an artificial Dragon Devil Fruit and their separate arrivals in PH.
At Punk Hazard, Kinemon both exhibited great abhorrence of 'dragons' and confirmed to Brook that he has a ‘personal vendetta’ against them. I do not think that such hatred and vendetta could develop from having his ‘lower third’ attached to a dragon (the first dragon that greeted Luffy, Zoro, Usopp and Robin when they first set foot on the blazing half of Punk Hazard) since it is normally IMPOSSIBLE for one to confirm by only his lower third the nature of the being or thing to which it (his lower third) was attached.
Kinemon also showed great detestation of ‘pirates’ when sanji had first introduced himself and the rest of his group to him as pirates.
After Momo had consumed Vegapunk’s artificial Dragon Devil Fruit and successfully managed to escape his pursuers at Punk Hazard, he found himself facing a mirror. Upon looking at the reflection of his dragon form on the mirror, he paled and shouted a loud scream. This appears to be a phobic reaction to dragons.
When Luffy and Momo were stranded in that pit, Luffy introduced himself to Momo as the man who will become the pirate king. Upon hearing that, Momo had become fidgety and nervous and gave a description of ‘pirates’ that matches Kaido’s description. This could suggest that Momo met Kaido in person, and his nervousness could be due to the fear he harbours about Kaido due to a certain event/ events.
When Kaido’s underling was trying to update kaido with the news of Joker’s defeat, he was looking toward the sky, which means that he believed that Kaido was in the sky, if not on the apex of some mountain.
In that very chapter, Kaido reached sky island with neither the company nor the knowledge of his crew members.
It was shown to us that Drake and several other crew members of Kaido were talking about the news whereas Kaido himself was on the sky island.
It was therefore evident that such method of attaining sky island is strictly related to his abilities.
In this week's chapter it was revealed to us, along with his identity, that Kaido has the strongest body structure you could find in all the living things that swim, crawl and fly this earth. Dragons are known to possess such attributes as robust scales that could withstand blades and spears that aim to penetrate their skin as well as wings that allow them to fly and reach such altitudes. Since Kaido’s body was described to be immune to blades and spears that aimed to penetrate it, from this aspect his attributes strongly support the idea that he possesses the Dragon Devil Fruit.
After Caesar’s downfall at Luffy’s hands, Kinemon told his son, in the middle of their meal, to trust that ‘they’ are all right.
My theory is that ‘they’ refers to the people from Wa. To be worried about their safety means that they are going through some kind of crisis. A crisis of this level that affects an entire nation whose citizens are so strong inasmuch as not even the marines can go near them can only be caused by one of the four emperors.
When the Straw Hats, Law and the samurai had left Punk Hazard and were heading to Dressrosa, Law revealed Kaido’s epithet. Upon hearing that, Momo and Kinemon both showed expressions fear and shock. When asked by Zoro what was wrong, Kinemon untruthfully replied that nothing was wrong.
Right after Kinemon had untruthfully answered Zoro that nothing was wrong, he reacted frightfully to the dragon form of his own child and started nervously asking about his (Momo's) whereabouts. Kinemon’s mind should have been preoccupied by the dragon next to him, but the very sight of that dragon triggered feelings of worry about his son's whereabouts.
Afterwards, when everyone was gathered and having dinner, Kinemon revealed to them that they were ‘chased’ by people whose identity he wished not to reveal(probably for the safety of the people who aided him recover both his body portions and his son – the Straw Hats).
In both instances Kinemon concealed matters connected to kaido. In this week’s chapter we discover that Kaido’s goons were ‘chasing’ the 'samurai’.
This establishes another strong connection between Kaido and the people of Wa. My theory is that Kinemon's group was chased by Kaido’s goons when they were trying to go to Zo. And the crisis that befell Wa had been caused by Kaido.
Kaido is the only one that could have breached the strong security of Wa and did what was done to Momo by his flying abilities. This explains Momo’s accurate description of Kaido, his phobic reaction to dragons, and the fear he harbours about him from the event that caused him aviophobia. This also explains Kinemon’s ‘personal vendetta’ against ‘dragons’, his feelings of worry about the whereabouts of his child that surfaced at the sight of a dragon, and his strong dislike of ‘pirates’ because it is only natural for one to develop such feelings after having his son exposed to such traumatic experience and his country exposed to such crisis (conquest of Wa).
Let’s also not dismiss that Gear 4 was conceived to combat celestial/ flying enemies too.
These are my thoughts for why Kaido must possess the dragon ability.
Thank you for reading.
Shortly after the Straw Hats’ arrival in Dressrosa, Luffy had tried to fly Momonosuke because of the flying ability that Momonosuke had displayed and used unconsciously to save both Luffy and himself from remaining in the pit wherein Luffy first stumbled upon him
, but Momonosuke dreadfully and loudly rejected the idea of flying ‘again’ through the 'skies' despite having no memory of the time when he had flown out of the pit together with Luffy, wherein there was no 'sky'.
While he was about to shout his rejection of such idea, Momonosuke was recalling somebody’s hand reaching out to grab him.
That event from his memory appears to be the cause of his aviophobia(fear of flying). The person from his flashback is suggested to have a flying ability, and the Dragon Devil Fruit possesses a flying ability.
When Momo was loudly rejecting the idea of flying again, his father was composedly listening to what was happening with no sign of surprise. This indicates that his father is aware of the misfortune that befell Momo. This further suggests that this had happened long before both Momo’s consumption of an artificial Dragon Devil Fruit and their separate arrivals in PH.
At Punk Hazard, Kinemon both exhibited great abhorrence of 'dragons' and confirmed to Brook that he has a ‘personal vendetta’ against them. I do not think that such hatred and vendetta could develop from having his ‘lower third’ attached to a dragon (the first dragon that greeted Luffy, Zoro, Usopp and Robin when they first set foot on the blazing half of Punk Hazard) since it is normally IMPOSSIBLE for one to confirm by only his lower third the nature of the being or thing to which it (his lower third) was attached.
Kinemon also showed great detestation of ‘pirates’ when sanji had first introduced himself and the rest of his group to him as pirates.
After Momo had consumed Vegapunk’s artificial Dragon Devil Fruit and successfully managed to escape his pursuers at Punk Hazard, he found himself facing a mirror. Upon looking at the reflection of his dragon form on the mirror, he paled and shouted a loud scream. This appears to be a phobic reaction to dragons.
When Luffy and Momo were stranded in that pit, Luffy introduced himself to Momo as the man who will become the pirate king. Upon hearing that, Momo had become fidgety and nervous and gave a description of ‘pirates’ that matches Kaido’s description. This could suggest that Momo met Kaido in person, and his nervousness could be due to the fear he harbours about Kaido due to a certain event/ events.
When Kaido’s underling was trying to update kaido with the news of Joker’s defeat, he was looking toward the sky, which means that he believed that Kaido was in the sky, if not on the apex of some mountain.
In that very chapter, Kaido reached sky island with neither the company nor the knowledge of his crew members.
It was shown to us that Drake and several other crew members of Kaido were talking about the news whereas Kaido himself was on the sky island.
It was therefore evident that such method of attaining sky island is strictly related to his abilities.
In this week's chapter it was revealed to us, along with his identity, that Kaido has the strongest body structure you could find in all the living things that swim, crawl and fly this earth. Dragons are known to possess such attributes as robust scales that could withstand blades and spears that aim to penetrate their skin as well as wings that allow them to fly and reach such altitudes. Since Kaido’s body was described to be immune to blades and spears that aimed to penetrate it, from this aspect his attributes strongly support the idea that he possesses the Dragon Devil Fruit.
After Caesar’s downfall at Luffy’s hands, Kinemon told his son, in the middle of their meal, to trust that ‘they’ are all right.
My theory is that ‘they’ refers to the people from Wa. To be worried about their safety means that they are going through some kind of crisis. A crisis of this level that affects an entire nation whose citizens are so strong inasmuch as not even the marines can go near them can only be caused by one of the four emperors.
When the Straw Hats, Law and the samurai had left Punk Hazard and were heading to Dressrosa, Law revealed Kaido’s epithet. Upon hearing that, Momo and Kinemon both showed expressions fear and shock. When asked by Zoro what was wrong, Kinemon untruthfully replied that nothing was wrong.
Right after Kinemon had untruthfully answered Zoro that nothing was wrong, he reacted frightfully to the dragon form of his own child and started nervously asking about his (Momo's) whereabouts. Kinemon’s mind should have been preoccupied by the dragon next to him, but the very sight of that dragon triggered feelings of worry about his son's whereabouts.
Afterwards, when everyone was gathered and having dinner, Kinemon revealed to them that they were ‘chased’ by people whose identity he wished not to reveal(probably for the safety of the people who aided him recover both his body portions and his son – the Straw Hats).
In both instances Kinemon concealed matters connected to kaido. In this week’s chapter we discover that Kaido’s goons were ‘chasing’ the 'samurai’.
This establishes another strong connection between Kaido and the people of Wa. My theory is that Kinemon's group was chased by Kaido’s goons when they were trying to go to Zo. And the crisis that befell Wa had been caused by Kaido.
Kaido is the only one that could have breached the strong security of Wa and did what was done to Momo by his flying abilities. This explains Momo’s accurate description of Kaido, his phobic reaction to dragons, and the fear he harbours about him from the event that caused him aviophobia. This also explains Kinemon’s ‘personal vendetta’ against ‘dragons’, his feelings of worry about the whereabouts of his child that surfaced at the sight of a dragon, and his strong dislike of ‘pirates’ because it is only natural for one to develop such feelings after having his son exposed to such traumatic experience and his country exposed to such crisis (conquest of Wa).
Let’s also not dismiss that Gear 4 was conceived to combat celestial/ flying enemies too.
These are my thoughts for why Kaido must possess the dragon ability.
Thank you for reading.
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Re: Kaido's Ability
Wow I like it! Even though I don't want to believe Kaido to be a dragon zoan you have convinced me. But Kaido could be another creature which has characteristics like a dragon and one of his commanders is a dragon which chased after Momonosuke.
Wow I like it! Even though I don't want to believe Kaido to be a dragon zoan you have convinced me. But Kaido could be another creature which has characteristics like a dragon and one of his commanders is a dragon which chased after Momonosuke.
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Great theory. This Momonosuke's flying and having no memory of it scenes give me chills because Oda clearly gives hints here, especially that the whole smile factory idea is related to Kaido up til now. When we have a "special failed experiment" with a ludicrous, clearly incomplete form of a dragon, we know Oda have to show us its complete form later in the story, which I believe is Kaido's DF. Again, your thoughts are great, keep it up!
Great theory. This Momonosuke's flying and having no memory of it scenes give me chills because Oda clearly gives hints here, especially that the whole smile factory idea is related to Kaido up til now. When we have a "special failed experiment" with a ludicrous, clearly incomplete form of a dragon, we know Oda have to show us its complete form later in the story, which I believe is Kaido's DF. Again, your thoughts are great, keep it up!