those are still cuts on Lucy as blood was clearly drawn, yes it was a retcon, you just don’t want to accept it as fact that when Natsu was fighting Wraith without magic, Wraith concluded that this was the same strength as Madmole, making that battle before irrelevant. Natsu’s thought projection is no different than his regular body as he moves around normally as his physical form does, and seeing as his TP can use magic, that would further support the case that he can fight without his magic. Savage Flames are where he exceeds the limits of his flames heat tolerance as they burn him and distort space time.
@Seven777, Raring to go is not the same as being able to fight which Gray makes it plan and clear, she was just stupidly confident, that does not change that she is weaker and goes down relatively easily, if you can’t read, don’t even bother anymore.
So where are the cuts on Lucy's body when Jacob makes her clothes disappear? At this point, I don't even care if she was technically cut. She was clearly fine. She is barely even injured from Jacob's attack, whereas Kyria's attack had her in an unconscious bloody mess.
There was no retcon lmao. Natsu used
thought projection MAGIC to hit Wraith. The entire thought projection is made out of magic. There are feats of Madmole tanking Natsu's magical attacks, and feats of Madmole matching Natsu's magical attacks. In no way is Natsu able to match Madmole without magic. It's pure nonsense.
Savage flames is literally just his flames of emotions making his flames stronger. They aren't exceeding the limits of his flames. They are his flames, and they are his flames at their peak.
The fact that Kyria is even conscious and able to stand on her feet makes her superior to Jacob, who can't even get up after being oneshotted by Mirajane.
Super human everything, but mostly strength. It was going to at least dismember her arm otherwise Natsu wouldn't have need to jump in front of the attack and melt it. The knife doesn't graze Natsu bcs he melted the attack. Kiria only hurt Erza bcs Erza was in her weakened state and couldn't defend herself. Merc was fodder in his no magic state lol. Also Laxus was defending himself against Erza's strikes unlike Kiria's lol.
Mirq took more hits outside of takeover then she did in takeover is what I'm saying. Mira put the rest of her magic into the punch to takedown Jacob in BSS as well. I doubt Kiria would be able to tank a punch from an all out BSS. The same BSS wgo was capable of stalemating Skullion and hurting Madmole.
Current Cana bot using a serious FG would still put her attack power massively above Jura's as per her MPF score she got in a weaker incarnation (she can use FG w/o Mavis as opposed to when she needed to borrow the spell from Mavis.) FG only caused one crack and the rest came from the crystal sttucture being compromised. If FG hit made the several other cracks then it would been shown in the intial hit, but that only caused one crack. The crystal only needed on more hit to break the spell.
He never said slowly. He says he going to do it piece by piece. It was going to dismember her. You mean the same Lucy that was able to take a hit that almost KOed Natsu (Tartaru, Amateratsu 28)? We all know in team up fights that secondary characters who are far weaker than the primary fighter don't get defeated easily. Lisanna in the Ajeel fight and Levy in the Bloodman fight are other clear cut cases of this. Also Cana in the August fight as well lmao.
Again, it was speed that Lucy could easily react to. The knife was likely just going to give Lucy a cut on her arm, given it's size. If someone has the strength to lop off a limb by throwing a knife, they would have the strength to crush someone's bones with strikes. Jacob hit Lucy like 20 times. She was mostly fine. Natsu jumped in front of her because he didn't want her to get hurt. Doesn't necessarily mean she was going to die.
Just because Mirajane took a bunch of hits without a takeover, it doesn't mean she has better or even equal durability without her takeover lol. It just means the first hit was able to damage her so much that she wasn't able to sustain the takeover, and the subsequent hits she had no choice but to endure without one. Mirajane didn't go all out against Jacob. She was exhausted, barely recovered enough magic to use a single attack, and oneshotted him with what little she had.
Cana with Fairy Glitter was only slightly above Jura, and she never needed Mavis to cast Fairy Glitter. Fairy Glitter is a magic that can be taken and used. Bluenote was going to kill Cana and take it for himself on Tenrou, and I doubt Mavis was going to help him. Also, Fairy Glitter created multiple cracks that ran the entire width of the crystal and shattered the whole thing. Even if you argue that the initial crack was what triggered the rest of the damage, Jacob's attack didn't even make a crack as large as the initial crack.
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@Seven777: Characters don't share durability.
- Natsu was able to get up after that attack, and then knock out Franmalth. Lucy wasn't able to get back up against Franmalth at all. She was on her knees for the remainder of the fight. Unlike Franmalth's attack where they were both wrecked, Natsu and Lucy were both fine after Jacob's attacks. That's a big difference.
- Levy collapsed from the anti magic particles alone. Gajeel kept fighting and killed Bloodman.
- The fight with Ajeel was offscreened, but it's likely that Elfman shielded her from most attacks. Stuff like Lucy's lion maiden hit both Elfman and Lisanna, but only knocked out Lisanna. Gildarts was protecting Cana.
- When August blitz them both, Gildarts remained on his feet and Cana was knocked to the ground. Then August went to stab Cana, and Gildarts blocked for her. August's staff stabbed through part of Gildart's prosthetics, which means it would have stabbed Cana as well.
None of this should even matter. Kyria can trade with Erza's katana barehanded. She can break Erza's swords with her kicks. This is so far beyond what Jacob can do with his knife that it's not even funny. Honestly, this alone makes any talk of Jacob's knife completely irrelevant.
