Discussion Laxus Dreyar Thread

[Laxus]

No it really isnt. It's just the same formula as the other Arcs.
Some evil group appears and a number of good guys defeat them before the important characters face the big the Boss.

What Laxus did was what Cheilia did, Jellal did, Erza did, Natsu did... How is it special from the others?

 

[kkck]

Laxus is as made out of lightning as gajeel is iron or natsu is fire... Not a thing. The manga merely shows a representation of laxus moving very fast as lightning. If he was made out of lightning then there would have been plenty of opportunities for him to show some sort of intangibility at this point.

 

[Kiki]

Hiro mentioned Laxus would made something big in this Arc didnt he? After Tartaros he mentioned Laxus would get something bigger. If that something is fightning Wahl... That is not big at all. In fact that is just a normal thing in every Arc.

Oh really? Can you provide the link? I am curious.

Laxus having Dragon Force would be interesting. Look forward to it

 

[kkck]

Well, laxus has already done pretty big stuff this arc. Beating a springan and also besting edo hades are pretty big deals regardless of the circumstances. It wouldn't be weird if laxus' role was over by now.

 

[Brandish μ]

Laxus in his prime? Nah. The dude's unnaturally strong right now, but he's too young to be in his prime imo. Look at Jellal. He's older than Laxus right now (due to 7 year time skip) and yet his power still rose immensely during the one year timeskip. I'd say Laxus will stop growing stronger once he reaches somewhere around Gildart's current age.

Well I look at TO-Sherria and she'd be like Erza's age, so Laxus could be in his prime.

I look at it from the stand point that he's stronger than most people in the Isghar or Alvarez right now. He's a top tier in Isghar, and he'd be a Spriggan in Alvarez. It's going to be hard to top that, but anything is possible.

I think that we will see Laxus in Magnolia later ( he will return with Gray or later with other injuried ) i don't know what role he will play ther tbh :P
Will be just to fight soldiers or someone will make comeback ( Ajeel ) we will see but i'm pretty sure we will still see him in this Arc if Erza is able to make a comeback then Laxus should as well ( From logical point but it's FT and plot may not demand Laxus presence unlike Erza )

But my boy need to meet with Randy and compliment her coat

That's true Erza did come back after a day, though she wasn't at full health. Fingers crossed he's ready to go when they all return to the guild.

Yes! Should it be Laxish, Branxus... Landy?

 

[Pirate Queen]

No it really isnt. It's just the same formula as the other Arcs.
Some evil group appears and a number of good guys defeat them before the important characters face the big the Boss.

What Laxus did was what Cheilia did, Jellal did, Erza did, Natsu did... How is it special from the others?

He took out a SPRIGGAN and floored HADES! lol, only you would think that isnt impressive. What do you want him to do? Take on Zeref, like Natsu did? He would have died instantly lol. Come on now... Give Laxus some credit

 

[Laxus]

He took out a SPRIGGAN and floored HADES! lol, only you would think that isnt impressive. What do you want him to do? Take on Zeref, like Natsu did? He would have died instantly lol. Come on now... Give Laxus some credit

You are completly missing the point here. You said it wasnt impressive? Definitely not me.

All I am saying taking out a Spriggan (Which is what you are supposed to do in this Arc) should not be consider a "Big Role". Basically everyone who defeats a Spriggan is as important as Laxus which takes out the "Big role" out of the winners. That is simple normal. Thats like saying Gray + Lyon vs Racer was a big role or Natsu vs Zancrow was a big role. Thats like saying Elfman defeating Sayla is a big role. It is not.

Big roles is what Gray is about to have against END. Big role is what, most likely, Erza will have with Irene. Big role is what natsu will have against Zeref. Big role is what Cheilia did since she lost her magic and she is was not even considered a secondary character. Big role is Jellal, probably, facing Zeref.

After this Arc ends you will look behind and see Laxus just having a simple role of defeating a Spriggan. The higlights will be Acnologia, Natsu, Gray, END, August, Irene, Erza (maybe) and Zeref.

PS: Not to mention how the SPriggans fights are being disappoiting.

--- Double Post Merged, May 22, 2016, Original Post Date: May 22, 2016 ---

Oh really? Can you provide the link? I am curious.

Laxus having Dragon Force would be interesting. Look forward to it

I will try to find it. It was post-Tartaros interview where Hiro said he he meant to make 2/3 more demons for Laxus to fight and giving a bigger time screen. He then said he had an important role for Laxus for the next Arc.

 

[Pirate Queen]

You are completly missing the point here. You said it wasnt impressive? Definitely not me.

All I am saying taking out a Spriggan (Which is what you are supposed to do in this Arc) should not be consider a "Big Role". Basically everyone who defeats a Spriggan is as important as Laxus which takes out the "Big role" out of the winners. That is simple normal. Thats like saying Gray + Lyon vs Racer was a big role or Natsu vs Zancrow was a big role. Thats like saying Elfman defeating Sayla is a big role. It is not.

Big roles is what Gray is about to have against END. Big role is what, most likely, Erza will have with Irene. Big role is what natsu will have against Zeref. Big role is what Cheilia did since she lost her magic and she is was not even considered a secondary character. Big role is Jellal, probably, facing Zeref.

After this Arc ends you will look behind and see Laxus just having a simple role of defeating a Spriggan. The higlights will be Acnologia, Natsu, Gray, END, August, Irene, Erza (maybe) and Zeref.

For being a side character, taking on one of the World's Strongest Mage while dying is a big role. I guess our opinions just differ when it comes to what a big role is.

 

[Stormsfury]

For being a side character, taking on one of the World's Strongest Mage while dying is a big role. I guess our opinions just differ when it comes to what a big role is.

The fact that he got taken out of an entire arc, then getting the same treatment that he's gotten in previous and we didn't even get to see his full power because of him being nerfed is annoying as hell.
He gets taken out of Tartaros and then he's out of this arc early apparently and without us seeing a full display of his power because of the nerf was horrible. I doubt that he's going to be out for the rest of the arc because of the Acnologia situation.

 

[Pirate Queen]

The fact that he got taken out of an entire arc, then getting the same treatment that he's gotten in previous and we didn't even get to see his full power because of him being nerfed is annoying as hell.
He gets taken out of Tartaros and then he's out of this arc early apparently and without us seeing a full display of his power because of the nerf was horrible. I doubt that he's going to be out for the rest of the arc because of the Acnologia situation.

I get it. You dont need to convince me, i accepted that he was a side character for a while now. Im okah with that. From what i have seen is better treatment than most side characters. I didnt expect much, and as such i was not dissapointed with his display of power and enjoyed his role in this arc. I loved it and thought it was a perfect fight for him, minus is bs asspull of red lightning. He went down like a boss and i dont need him to challenge acnologia one vs one or anything like that to respect his character anymore. Had had a role, played that role like a boss, and was finally brought down due to exhaustion. It's not like he was even one of the DS that were transported to this time. He's less relevant than Wendy, it sucks, but it is what it is...

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

Well I look at TO-Sherria and she'd be like Erza's age, so Laxus could be in his prime.

I look at it from the stand point that he's stronger than most people in the Isghar or Alvarez right now. He's a top tier in Isghar, and he'd be a Spriggan in Alvarez. It's going to be hard to top that, but anything is possible.

I'm still skeptical because of how Jellal is progressing, but you bring up a good point about Sherria, so fair enough

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

I agree with Lexusflame.

You are completly missing the point here. You said it wasnt impressive? Definitely not me.

All I am saying taking out a Spriggan (Which is what you are supposed to do in this Arc) should not be consider a "Big Role". Basically everyone who defeats a Spriggan is as important as Laxus which takes out the "Big role" out of the winners. That is simple normal. Thats like saying Gray + Lyon vs Racer was a big role or Natsu vs Zancrow was a big role. Thats like saying Elfman defeating Sayla is a big role. It is not.

Big roles is what Gray is about to have against END. Big role is what, most likely, Erza will have with Irene. Big role is what natsu will have against Zeref. Big role is what Cheilia did since she lost her magic and she is was not even considered a secondary character. Big role is Jellal, probably, facing Zeref.

After this Arc ends you will look behind and see Laxus just having a simple role of defeating a Spriggan. The higlights will be Acnologia, Natsu, Gray, END, August, Irene, Erza (maybe) and Zeref.

PS: Not to mention how the SPriggans fights are being disappoiting.

The fact that he got taken out of an entire arc, then getting the same treatment that he's gotten in previous and we didn't even get to see his full power because of him being nerfed is annoying as hell.
He gets taken out of Tartaros and then he's out of this arc early apparently and without us seeing a full display of his power because of the nerf was horrible. I doubt that he's going to be out for the rest of the arc because of the Acnologia situation.

If you don't think what Laxus did already was enough, your expectations exceed reality. What is so underwhelming about defeating a Mid-Tier Spriggan like Wahl and then a Pre-Timeskip Hades? He even did it solo. What more is wanted from him? Let's be honest here. We did see his full power. Red Lightning was pretty much as strong as he could have gotten. You can say he was nerfed but I thought you guys use that to his advantage? You say he can beat a Spriggan while nerfed so this means that he is incredibly strong in your eyes.

Anyways, Mid-Tier Spriggans are as far as anyone should get especially in a solo fight. To expect Laxus defeating a High-Tier Spriggan like God Serena is just not realistic. That guy was taken out by Acnologia. Also, don't even mention Natsu. He didn't fight Zeref with his own power. It was Igneel's so no need to compare anything or be jealous of other characters there. And to think that Laxus will go up against Acnologia, Zeref, E.N.D, August, or Eileen? Unless you don't want him to lose or be humiliated, I think it is better if he didn't fight them. But that doesn't mean Gray, Natsu, Gajeel, Erza, Mirajane, Jellal, or anybody else will stand a chance either. Those fights are intended to be group fights or one that will just take a lot to win.

Expecting Dragon Force is also a stretch because he is a 2nd Generation Dragon Slayer. So far, none of them have achieved it so we don't know if it is within their capability to do so.

Trust me, this is not the end of Fairy Tail. We'll see Laxus in action again. The closest achievement that Fairy Tail will have is defeating Zeref. Who knows? Maybe Hiro Mashima just dedicated this arc to take down Zeref's shields and save defeating Zeref/E.N.D for later (although that is unlikely). Also, Acnologia is not even close to being taken down in this arc. There will be more arcs to come and Laxus will surely appear. I guarantee it.

 

[Linali]

Speaking about Laxus big role in this arc... In my opinion, beating a Spriggan on his own is a big deal. Only he and Jellal was able to do that, yet, only Laxus did it from the beggining to the end (Jellal was kinda busy in the middle Btw, I wonder, if he remember something. Oh, and I don't count Sheria, because she had an adventage as a God Slayer and Ultear's help). Besides, he wasn't in the best shape, but he did it. So yes, I think it was SOMETHING BIG.

But ofc, I hope it's not over yet. What do you guys think about Laxus facing August? I would love to see this two fighting each other, Laxus is with no doubts one of the strongest mages on Ishgar's side, so I think he would be good opponent for the king of magic (someone has to defeat this monster, why not Laxus?). Or maybe Hiro decided, that his future fight with Acno is enough? We will see

And now the peak of my dreams: Laxus & Jellal vs August - that would be a fight!

 

[BluePegasus]

Jellal was removed from the fight in the first few moments and likely would have drowned were it not for Kagura, so no.

And Laxus would've died if Freed's magic didn't help him.

 

[Stormsfury]

And Laxus would've died if Freed's magic didn't help him.

Not really Freed's magic it's one of Freed's signatures but runes don't belong to him and him alone. Just like re-quip doesn't belong to Erza alone. Laxus learned it from Freed, but he used it himself.

 

[Selly]

Not really Freed's magic it's one of Freed's signatures but runes don't belong to him and him alone. Just like re-quip doesn't belong to Erza alone. Laxus learned it from Freed, but he used it himself.

I'm still not sure about it. I quoted a post in the Raijinshuu thread since it's very questionable that Laxus wrote the Jutsu shiki by himself during that fight. Not even Freed is able to cast such a jutsu shiki WHILE fighting. If he was then his magic would be twice as OP as it already is and that's really eeehhh. On top of that Laxus himself stated that it was one of Freed's spells so what I believe is that Freed prewrote the spell and 'handed' it to Laxus, showing Laxus how to write the LAST rune to activate it. That makes the most sense to me^^

 

[Loke]

And Laxus would've died if Freed's magic didn't help him.

It's a good thing Laxus is capable of using Freed's magic then. Freed didn't drop by and cast it, Laxus did it himself. Nice try though.

 

[Stormsfury]

I'm still not sure about it. I quoted a post in the Raijinshuu thread since it's very questionable that Laxus wrote the Jutsu shiki by himself during that fight. Not even Freed is able to cast such a jutsu shiki WHILE fighting. If he was then his magic would be twice as OP as it already is and that's really eeehhh. On top of that Laxus himself stated that it was one of Freed's spells so what I believe is that Freed prewrote the spell and 'handed' it to Laxus, showing Laxus how to write the LAST rune to activate it. That makes the most sense to me^^

Nope. Laxus drew it during the fight, Wahl said so too. Laxus can move at incredible speeds, so I'm guessing that's what allowed him to draw the symbols.

 

[BluePegasus]

It's a good thing Laxus is capable of using Freed's magic then. Freed didn't drop by and cast it, Laxus did it himself. Nice try though.

So you actually think Laxus uses Jutsu Shiki as well and is able to cast it faster than Freed himself? Well, okay then.

 

[Selly]

Hmmm no, there was nothing that directly stated that Laxus in fact drew it himself. I honestly don't believe Laxus would give him Freed's magic and make him BETTER than him at Freed. Apart from that, if that was the case, then Laxus surely wouldn't say something like 'Thank you Freed. No one can break your spell'. If not even Freed, who's a master at his magic and even impressed Makarov back then in Fantasia already and Jutsu shiki is said to be an advances magic as well, then I honestly don't believe that Laxus was able to write it ALL during the fight.

Something like this makes waaaaay more sense

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