I am not saying that it definitely has to be more than a year. You're focusing on the wrong ideas. All I'm asking for is a logical explanation because apparently you claim that it makes sense. You cannot use Fairy Law as a comparison because I already explained to you that anybody in Fairy Tail can use it. It is not exclusive to anybody except anyone who is not in Fairy Tail. If you paid attention to the description of the magic itself, you know that it obliterates anybody that Fairy Tail deems as a threat; hence, it is available to all FT members. Fine, Organic Link Magic and Thought Projections are not related to lightning? How long did it take for Laxus to be able to use it? I keep repeating the same questions for a reason. We have no proof. So you can't use these feats.
But you're contradicting yourself here. It's not the logical explanation you're after, since we've already referenced other examples of mages learning a different magic from other mages. It has already happened before and thus makes sense. We even have Laxus using two other different spells beside lightning which is his main. Or are you suggesting he always had them? He obviously learnt it at some point. What you're been arguing about is that a year is too short for Laxus to learn another spell hence my question about why you're arguing that a year is definitely not enough. There's no proof to that claim. Yes you asked how long it took Laxus to learn those, there's obviously no way to know for sure but I've given other examples of magic learnt in shorter time hence you point that a year is definitely enough doesn't follow.
That's not correct. Fairy law isn't a spell that 'anyone' in Fairy Tail can use. Where was that stated? The description you proved is also incorrect. Fairy law doesn't attack whoever FT deems an enemy. It attacks whoever the caster deems an enemy. The reason Laxus' FT didn't work against FT was because he didn't really consider them enemies in his heart. If he did, they would've been wiped out. Fairy Law is also derived from law (the original spell). Zeref taught the spell to Mavis in zero (and he did this in a couple of days). Sure Mavis didn't master the spell and thus got her growth halted but she did learn enough to successfully cast it (another example for you).
We cannot say who would need more time to learn a spell even if it was August and Gray because it can also depend on what type of magic. Your idea that since August is the King of Magic and so he learns magic at a faster pace than anybody else is faulty logic. Plus, that would be part-speculation with little evidence. Going by your example, Gray may learn Ice Attacks a lot faster than August because he uses Ice as his main element so it only makes sense that he picks it up faster than August who has such a broad knowledge.
Fair point. It's mostly speculation. I suppose that wasn't a very good example.
Laxus never associated himself with Jutsu Shiki. That is all lies in just trying to prove your point. If Laxus really had knowledge about Jutsu Shiki, he wouldn't be so angry at Freed for suggesting to end the Battle of Fairy Tail. What I mean is that Laxus needed Freed's magic to put up a magical barrier around Magnolia so nobody like Reedus can escape. If Laxus could a magic barrier himself, then Freed wouldn't be necessary in his plans.It is obvious from the start of the series that each character was given their own special abilities which is what makes them their own person. Knowing this, what makes you think Laxus can cast a form of Jutsu Shiki let alone of that magnitude?
What are you talking about? I didn't say Laxus could cast jutsu Shiki himself back then. He obviously needed freed for that. What I said is that Laxus has been working with freed all this while. He may not have learnt how to actually cast the spell himself, but it doesn't mean he didn't learn a lot about the spell due to the time he spent with freed. First, you said that a year definitely isn't enough time to learn such a spell (saying that it should take much longer) and I countered with the fact that Laxus could've been learning before the timeskip. Laxus definitely couldn't cast the spell in battle of fairy tail but that was ages ago. Laxus could've started learning the spell anytime from that point (off-panel). I never said Laxus could cast the spell back then.
I don't know if Zeref actually taught Precht, Yury, Warrod, and Zera their magic... I mean he might of taught them how to control their magical energy and release it. But the problem here lies in that Zeref does not know Lightning Magic, Green/Tree Magic, etc. Zeref is just a Black Arts Magic type user not Elemental Magic. Now if it is true that Zeref simply taught Fairy Tail's Founders how to unleash their magic within and just use magic attacks, then that wouldn't be significant because Capricorn did the same to Lucy. Did he teach her Celestial Magic? No.
Actually, Zeref probably does know that magic. Zeref is known as the king of magic and even though he uses black arts most often, it doesn't mean that's the only one he knows. Have you forgotten that August's hype is that he may even know more magic than Zeref himself? If you read up on Zeref, you'll see that he did master numerous magic. That's why August plausibly knowing more magic than Zeref is a big deal.
We'll just leave this discussion at this. You can have the last word because I apparently can't convince anyone of the obvious discrepancy. I just hope Cana gets Crash Magic from Gildarts and destroys a Spriggan in one-hit.
That doesn't follow and you're simply trying to be condescending. Crash is a difficult magic to control to begin with. Even Gildarts has trouble controlling it. Chances of Cana successfully learning to use it are very slim. The issue is that you're looking for a discrepancy when there isn't one. There are 3 important questions to ask when it comes to learning different magic.
- Is it possible to learn a separate magic?
Ans: Yes. There are numerous examples of this.
- Is it possible for a Mage to teach another how to use a type of magic?
Ans: Yes again. This is basically a branch of question 1. There are examples of this occurring as well.
- Was a specific timeframe given when it comes to learning a separate magic?
Ans: No. No specific timeframe was given. As long as it wasn't stated that it should take X months or X years to learn another magic, then it doesn't matter how long or short it took someone to learn said magic. It may take some years, it may take some months. You asked how long it took the others to learn the separate magic but the manga never elaborated on this. Some took days, like Mavis learning law (not fairy law) from Zeref in days (and that was a complicated spell as stated by Zeref. Others may have taken far longer. But Laxus did it in one year (or maybe longer if he started trying to learn it prior).
So if you've agreed that Separate magic can indeed be learnt and if you also know that no specific time was given, then where's the discrepancy? I see none. Personally, I just feel like you aren't comfortable with Laxus learning jutsu Shiki since freed already uses it but it doesn't matter. It's not Laxus spell and he can't hold a candle to freed in that regard.
