Pretty sure this is not the final arc, as the future story has already been indicated as Lucy searching for Aquarius key which can be in any continent. Probably, the group will travel to a new continent in search of the key and once again come across "invincible foes" more powerful than the Spriggans who as always, will ultimately be defeated.
I think you're right about Etherion. I don't doubt Wahl could reverse-engineer Etherion given his knowledge of weapons.
Ethereon isn't located at ishgar. Ethereon is a satellite. Ishgar or alvarez shouldn't make a difference. The issue is getting control over it.
Ah that's right, I glossed that over. But reading on etherion, it's activation time is supposed to be one hour and the magic circle is quite large compared to Wahl's just being on his palm with a relatively short activation time. I doubt it's on the same level
I won't argue on such a baseless and biased topic anymore but there are a few things here that needs to be clarified.
Isn't that what I told you that the fight was even or that Laxus hit him one or two more times? Then you come out and say that I'm changing my mind. Oh and before you continue about damage as proof, even when Wahl was split in half and part of his face was shattered in pieces, their was no dirt or signs of damage on his face cracks or the pieces that were flying off. Metal and flesh don't show the same kind of damage. No blood nothing when Wahl was in pieces. What you say is baseless. That's why you're trying so hard to back out with your bs excuses. Can't finish what you started. Struggle? Even fight yet overwhelmed? Is that possible? Hilarious.
I don't think I'm being particularly biased. It's only baseless if you choose not to acknowledge what happened. I will defend Laxus as a fan, but I won't go making stuff up. Biased is saying Wahl could beat Laxus easily - something you've proposed.
Well you didn't cite things only within ch 472 so it's quite hard to believe you were talking only about that exchange. You literally brought in things that happened in ch 473 (you mentioned the railgun and Etherion).
But I called it even. I said you could give it to Laxus if you factored in the ineffectiveness of lightning.
You called Wahl stupid, so you implied he made a dumb error. I said he was unlucky, because slayers are actually rare you know.
Size has context. Power of an attack is dependent on more factors than size. IIRC we were talking about AoE, and I stated that it matters if we're talking about someone like Natsu/God Serena who can deliver devastating blows over a large area. Like I said in the previous post the range of the anti-matter cannon is impressive - it's DC however is not that impressive.
Well I thought it should be noted that he was sick in order to consider the fight for it's entirety. RL could be all Nakama power, it could be legit; my interpretation is that it's legit. What's undeniable is that it destroyed Wahl, making it one of the most powerful attacks we've seen.
I apologized because i value respect, people belittling characters and their accomplishment, or twisting things to suite themselves frustrates me the recent chapter discussion got the better of me it.
*seigh* i knew that encoding comment would bit me as my knowledge of code is not enough to argue, although the spell being written base would actually make it easier to learn then creating a program as binary has more patterns to it then a written language as it speeds up the reorganization, which is why i chose a musical example if not overly simplified it is more approachable. I not sure I would put it past levy but I see your point that is why I contend Freed crafted that spell and that spell and then taught it to Laxus.
True it is unique to Fairy Tail but it is common to shonen, characters have taught their friends techniques for far less then this. I doubt it is easy to learn such things, but Laxus has proven to know quite a few types already so learning a limited version of one he has such access to is reasonable.
Fairy Tail wikipidia is what I cited
I see your point, but remember Laxus did want to get stronger to protect his friends and defensive capabilities are a gaping hole in his (and really all the slayers') repatriate, plus we never got an actually explanation of what it was designed to do, just why Laxus used it. The degree is also not particularly clear as Whal had attack on the mind it was more efficient to cancel it with Laxus coming to him.
Well there is a couple of problems with that dragon slayers transform parts of themselves to dragon anatomy to produce their spells Lucy can't really get as good a look at Natu's lungs as laxus can a group of glowing symbols, nor do I think Natsu could explain the difference of autonomy. Lucy has a holder magic which requires and item and an exclusive contract so he really can't. The wings well they really have no reason for that, now if having wings=no motion sickness...well I would love a filler of that because I think even sweet Wendy would get rather adament about learning it, but there could be a biological componint to it as every exceed uses it without being taught. Finally, we have evidence of Team natsu splinting up while we only see the thunder leagon without Laxus when he is exile and they are injured.
Yes that was my argument, not to mention an expression is more than enough but August's action and his dialogue along with Ajeel afterwards backs it up even more. Give me my links? I already said he didn't help Serena when he was in danger (because he wasn't in any real trouble) and even stopped another Spriggan from helping but immediately jumps in for Ajeel, you should know when this happens. How does me bringing up a point mean I'm backing out? My up stuff as you go huh. Since you clearly forgot what happened let me show you.
Yes this argument is getting worse. You claimed Ajeel was going to die from Laxus lightning. There's still no guarantee of it champ. You and eliteace are quite similar. You two could be best friends. YOU BACKED OFF AND STARTED ANOTHER ARGUMENT NOT EVEN RELATING TO THIS ONE!!!!!!!!! You changed what you where saying from "Laxus was gonna one shot Ajeel. Ajeel shit his pants. He was gonna die if it wasn't for August." Don't you remember any of that? Stay focused and don't be so brain scattered just because you have no real evidence you explode and argue about anything. We don't disagree about everything. Just your presumption pushing your speculations on me like it was for sure. Ajeel might have or might not have died from it. It was you smashing you ideas of it being death for sure.
Don't bring me into your argument. I never said anything in regards to this topic. Therefore, how can we be similar? Just because different people have opposing points in regard to your ideas, it doesn't mean you can just group those people together. You claim we have no proof when you do the exact same thing and change your standpoints from time to time. However, if you ask me, Laxus' attack wouldn't even be close to killing Ajeel.
I personally believed Ajeel would be been hurt badly you clearly didn't read my first post by whatever not going to repeat myself for the 6th time to you. You are clearly not reading my posts because once again I SAID IT WAS IMPLIED, never guaranteed it would happened but since you clearly don't know what IMPLIED MEANS here's the definition.
Sorry about that. Fair enough. When did I change my standpoints, without admitting first it was my mistake? I told you a hundred times Wahl and Laxus were evenly matched. You yourself said they landed the same amount of hits. But you did not count the first two because it was a surprise attack or something like that. If you did count it Laxus was leading a bit. If not it was even. You defined struggle in many ways, but you also said Laxus was overwhelmed. If you meant that it wasn't easy for Laxus then I'd agree with you 100%. But you claimed he was struggling, getting tossed around, and overwhelmed, which I disagreed with. Even or close to even is almost the same and unless this is a race the differences shouldn't be a big deal.
You're talking much more open minded now as opposed to forcing your opinion earlier as if it was a fact. I can't argue with that. I'd have to agree that it's a possibility. If you said that from the start there wouldn't have been this debate. But you were saying he was as good as dead earlier, like last week or whenever that was. The fact that you changed it to a possibility instead of sure death proves you've already changed your original point. Unless you want to argue about not having changed it too?
My intention was never to force it has fact. Again read one my first posts I said I believed he'd get fucked up not die not to mention I put implied in my posts. I never stated it to be fact.
I see it now. You said he likely wouldn't have died but badly injured. Ok you're clean. Natsu had somewhat of a look while Ajeel was preparing to attack. The drop of sweat was after the attack was gone, the facial expression was an unsuspected look due to Laxus power. The way I interpreted it, this was to show that ft can put up a fight against these so called unbeatable powerhouses. Like when a powerful hero sees how strong someone is even if he is stronger. I seriously doubt it would have badly hurt Ajeel. Probably enough to hurt him to damage him but not ko him. I saw your other comments on the Serena thread being pushy so I already marked you or judged you as abusive. Sorry for judging you and treating you as such.
Lol red lightning that surpasses lightning was such bs tho!!! Coooommmeeee ooooonnnn. He needed a dues ex machina to pull off the win. If he had beaten any other sprigfan other than the one immune to lightning i would agree with you. He didnt save anyone as well, qhen they were fleeing ajeel. Natsu had already shown capable to cancel out ajeels town sinking spell. Laxus assisted, not saved. Laxus is strong, but at this point in the story hes not above Natsu. Its too far into the story for thatI'm not gonna class villains in this com
Laxus has always been stronger than natsu and erza.
1. He fought Hades as equal for few min in 1vs1 whereas natsu erza wendy lucy n gray were all beaten, n they were together. I'm not telling that laxus was Hades level in tenrou arc, but he was stronger than natsu gray erza lucy n wendy.
2. In tartaros arc, he one shouted tempesta without getting serious, before taking for him a huge poison dose (city size) which is deadly.
Remember that natsu had lot of difficulties against tempesta, n even in lightningfire mode he wasn't able to one shot him. Gray was able to do it coz his magic is the démons weakness.
Now let's talk about arbaless arc.
In this arc, laxus has a very beautiful n badass entrance, he saved natsu erza gray lucy wendy mest n makarov then he was going to one shot ajil with just one simple attack which was a nuclear explosion !!! JUST ONE ATTACK.
Then, he fought wahl, who is a very very powerful spriggan coz he can attack with etherion (yes the council weapon) isn't that op ? Thunder has no effect on wahl, n laxus was very very sick ! Then he really impressed me with his strategy with HIS jutsuchiki he lurned from freed, laxus is very smart. Then he was able to beat wahl with just one attack.
So luxus fullpower is much stronger than spriggans except august.
I want to clarify another point spriggans are all arriver than erza ! Ajil defeated her in 1vs1 n if biska didn't shout him with Jupiter, he would killed erza.
So laxus is much stronger than her. I think he's natsu's king dragon level. Coz laxus is fastest n smarter than him, n now he can defend himself with jutsuchiki.
Gildartz is a little bit stronger than laxus.
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