One question only
How does laxus beat tartarus erza
The one who can fight without senses and pain senses to extreme
Na i need to.ask.more questions (cant stop )
How did laxus lose to natsu in ff arc if he can mid diff erza in that arc
I thought ff arc laxus could mid diff natsu. Which allows some room for natsu to play
And how does laxus put down tenrou erza, who took two nukes with combined power of fairy tail mages and still wouldn't fall
How?
Erza was mid-low diffed by Ajeel even with her armor and few advantages. While Laxus was potentially able to low-no diff Ajeel, and do the same to other spriggan after healing.
There is like abyss between them.
Alvarez Laxus >> Spriggan >> Erza
No. I am not saying anything about hating erza. When i said jura faught someone other than erza I meant jura was hyped with respect to erza, nothing more. And since he didnt fight erza, he gets to keep his hype
Pre ts, you had alot of arcs.
Post ts, you only have gmg and tartarus for dehyping of jura. And jura is not really relevant character with no peers.
No s class monster will jura trouble. Nothing else
Yes, I am also saying gmg jura would beat pre ts erza. This doesn't prove anything about SO erza.
And no, laxus had better hype than erza. Not better feats.
Minerva and kagura don't have feats. Well kagura does and Minerva has some hype. Kagura has that speed feat which marakrov couldnt follow and her sheathed attack which was compared Jupiter cannon and her tank of an attack which shocked jura.
But I am not comparing them to main characters.
They all had hype. Which was correct respective to themselves but was wrong compared to good guys.
So I know Minerva is stronger than rouge but I dont know if Minerva is stronger than natsu.
Same way I know jura is stronger than kagura but I dont know if jura is stronger than erza.
To create hype bad guys are hyped to the sky. And then the good guys proves themselves. Jura is no different
All I am saying jura has no feats to prove he can handle erza plus Mira. His orga feats has something impurities if you will
You can say the same for minerva and I won't disagree
There is a huge gap between natsu and erza. Shown and stated many times. There is no gap shown or stated between laxus and erza. So examples make no sense.
If you had said ikugura is stronger than jellal and midnight is stronger than laxus. Than that would be accurate example.
Your example might even work if all erza did in gmg was beat kagura then yes. But erza beat kagura plus Minerva. Then why the hell would I believe jura to be out of erza reach
Lol. Don't confuse me
Pre ts erza vs gmg jura thing is coming from s class monster portrayal
Please. You said the only reason I'm giving Jura a pass is because he fought someone other than Erza.
Sure.
Sure
It doesn't need to, beating Jura is simply a better feat.
He has better feats. Beating the guy who oneshot Orga>consecutively beating the women who low diffed Lucy and Yukino.
If shocking people is a feat, then Jura is once again king of GMG.
Uhuh, so you know Eileen is stronger than Wahl but you don't know Eileen is stronger than Laxus? I can get with that actually.
Jura doesn't need feats to say he can handle Mira and Erza, he has a statement explicitly saying he can do so.
Except for the gap where Mira and Erza combined might be beaten by Jura, the character Laxus defeated. Added on to him being likened to Gildarts, his performance against Hades, and Mashima saying he's too strong to write. Uhuh, no gap.
Please. You said the only reason I'm giving Jura a pass is because he fought someone other than Erza.
Sure.
Sure
It doesn't need to, beating Jura is simply a better feat.
He has better feats. Beating the guy who oneshot Orga>consecutively beating the women who low diffed Lucy and Yukino.
If shocking people is a feat, then Jura is once again king of GMG.
Uhuh, so you know Eileen is stronger than Wahl but you don't know Eileen is stronger than Laxus? I can get with that actually.
Jura doesn't need feats to say he can handle Mira and Erza, he has a statement explicitly saying he can do so.
Except for the gap where Mira and Erza combined might be beaten by Jura, the character Laxus defeated. Added on to him being likened to Gildarts, his performance against Hades, and Mashima saying he's too strong to write. Uhuh, no gap.
Seriously that what I meant. You giving him a pass because he didnt face the opponent he was hyped up against
Beating jura is a better feat, compared to say beating kagura. But not so.much as beating both kagura Minerva
Jura tricked orga. That was the point of that conversation. Not for Jura hype. Jura could have gotten same hype by one shotting a fighting orga, who challenged him to one on one fight.
Pretty much. Eileen and August hype is valid for springgans only. After that it was there performance.
If laxus had taken out two lacarde (with actual power hype) then i would indeed consider him Eileen tier
So doesn't ajeel. He has statement clearly saying he can handle natsu gray and lucy and Wendy. Why are you giving erza feats to other.
Mira and erza combined statement can easily be countered by kagura alone being said be as strong as erza and Minerva being the same. Erza took them both
Only once in his entire life
Laxus performance agaisnt hadeswasn that good. He was literally low diffed
Mishma has trouble writing him in the story but can produce God dragons out of his ass, please don't grasps at straws
Laxus.had better hype, not feats in gmg.
Taking Jura out can.be considered better than taking out kagura and Minerva. But its a same ball park.
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Now if you could only show me erza sh!thing her self when laxus walks in like natsu does when erza walks in, you have that gap
Seriously that what I meant. You giving him a pass because he didnt face the opponent he was hyped up against
Beating jura is a better feat, compared to say beating kagura. But not so.much as beating both kagura Minerva
Jura tricked orga. That was the point of that conversation. Not for Jura hype. Jura could have gotten same hype by one shotting a fighting orga, who challenged him to one on one fight.
Pretty much. Eileen and August hype is valid for springgans only. After that it was there performance.
If laxus had taken out two lacarde (with actual power hype) then i would indeed consider him Eileen tier
So doesn't ajeel. He has statement clearly saying he can handle natsu gray and lucy and Wendy. Why are you giving erza feats to other.
Mira and erza combined statement can easily be countered by kagura alone being said be as strong as erza and Minerva being the same. Erza took them both
Only once in his entire life
Laxus performance agaisnt wasn that good
Mishma has trouble writing him in the story but can produce God dragons out of his ass, please don't grasps at straws
Laxus.had better hype, not feats in gmg.
Taking Jura out can.be considered better than taking out kagura and Minerva. But its a same ball park.
Not even sure what that means
Kinda is, Orga smashes both Yukino and Lucy easily, he's Sabertooth's strongest member.
Jura did oneshot Orga in a one on one fight.
That's fine then, if you don't know Eileen is stronger than Laxus, then I don't know Jura is stronger than Erza.
Why would I need to? Laxus has a way better statement against Ajeel. As for Natsu and Gray, they've demolished spriggans easily.
She didn't take them out at the same time though.
Repeating the author isn't grasping at straws. Mashima tries to be a good authour, he fails sometimes, what a disingenuous argument.
You can ball park it, as long as it's better.
Not even sure what that means
Kinda is, Orga smashes both Yukino and Lucy easily, he's Sabertooth's strongest member.
Jura did oneshot Orga in a one on one fight.
That's fine then, if you don't know Eileen is stronger than Laxus, then I don't know Jura is stronger than Erza.
Why would I need to? Laxus has a way better statement against Ajeel. As for Natsu and Gray, they've demolished spriggans easily.
She didn't take them out at the same time though.
Repeating the author isn't grasping at straws. Mashima tries to be a good authour, he fails sometimes, what a disingenuous argument.
You can ball park it, as long as it's better.
That is true, but rufus has more chances of beating laxus than orga has of beating kagura, well according to Minerva atleast.
Please provide panel of orga demanding a fight with jura
Yes, but laxus didnt beat two power hyped lacarde.
So, that statement is only valid for ajeel or maybe springgans marakrov has seen. So you agree ajeel can easily take those four
She took them in a weird way
She took out kagura in her pre ts form. Got her self injured for no particular reason.
Then took out Minerva with SO
Its kinda like gmg natsu beating I dont know zancrow and cobra. And he chooses to only go pre ts against cobra and then breaking his leg and then going SO for zancrow
Gmg natsu can pretty much take them both at the same time
Repeating things which you know doesn't mean exactly what you want them to mean is indeed grasping at straws
That is true, but rufus has more chances of beating laxus than orga has of beating kagura, well according to Minerva atleast.
Please provide panel of orga demanding a fight with jura
Yes, but laxus didnt beat two power hyped lacarde.
So, that statement is only valid for ajeel or maybe springgans marakrov has seen. So you agree ajeel can easily take those four
She took them in a weird way
She took out kagura in her pre ts form. Got her self injured for no particular reason.
Then took out Minerva with SO
Its kinda like gmg natsu beating I dont know zancrow and cobra. And he chooses to only go pre ts against cobra and then breaking his leg and then going SO for zancrow
Gmg natsu can pretty much take them both at the same time
Repeating things which you know doesn't mean exactly what you want them to mean is indeed grasping at straws
Alright
Not really, but I'm not getting into interpreting Minerva's "retreat" statement again.
Sure, first you provide me a panel of Kagura demanding a fight with Erza
I know
What? What are you talking about? They beat Ajeel's peers, it's disproven
Why would that mean he can beat them at the same time? You think if Natsu and Gray tackled Mard one after the other they would have won? Course not, they wouldn't even have gotten him out of Base. Same with Hades, same with Jiemma. Characters attack together because its more effective than going 1v1. I mean did Laxus solo Erza and Kyria at the same time lol? He held back RLM round 1, then used it round 2 lol? That what Laxus did?
I don't need it to mean exactly what I want it to mean. It's supplemental evidence, I'm not relying on it.
Alright
Not really, but I'm not getting into interpreting Minerva's "retreat" statement again.
Sure, first you provide me a panel of Kagura demanding a fight with Erza
I know
What? What are you talking about? They beat Ajeel's peers, it's disproven
Why would that mean he can beat them at the same time? You think if Natsu and Gray tackled Mard one after the other they would have won? Course not, they wouldn't even have gotten him out of Base. Same with Hades, same with Jiemma. Characters attack together because its more effective than going 1v1. I mean did Laxus solo Erza and Kyria at the same time lol? He held back RLM round 1, then used it round 2 lol? That what Laxus did?
I don't need it to mean exactly what I want it to mean. It's supplemental evidence, I'm not relying on it.
You dont need to interpret anything. Implications are clear as are with gray statements regarding laxus and gildarts. Fairy tail ain't for phd scholars
Lol. I didn't know you will go so low. You are literally trying ignore the manga to get a point here. Orga demanded jura to take his attack, that was all. You want to ignore that. And then you say you are open minded.
It doesn't, but its possible.
Fresh SO erza will have alot easier time beating kagura or Minerva. Together she still might have a chance. Same as jura hype.
Seriously that what I meant. You giving him a pass because he didnt face the opponent he was hyped up against
Beating jura is a better feat, compared to say beating kagura. But not so.much as beating both kagura Minerva
Jura tricked orga. That was the point of that conversation. Not for Jura hype. Jura could have gotten same hype by one shotting a fighting orga, who challenged him to one on one fight.
Pretty much. Eileen and August hype is valid for springgans only. After that it was there performance.
If laxus had taken out two lacarde (with actual power hype) then i would indeed consider him Eileen tier
So doesn't ajeel. He has statement clearly saying he can handle natsu gray and lucy and Wendy. Why are you giving erza feats to other.
Mira and erza combined statement can easily be countered by kagura alone being said be as strong as erza and Minerva being the same. Erza took them both
Only once in his entire life
Laxus performance agaisnt hadeswasn that good. He was literally low diffed
Mishma has trouble writing him in the story but can produce God dragons out of his ass, please don't grasps at straws
Laxus.had better hype, not feats in gmg.
Taking Jura out can.be considered better than taking out kagura and Minerva. But its a same ball park.
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Now if you could only show me erza sh!thing her self when laxus walks in like natsu does when erza walks in, you have that gap
She was shocked when Alexis was “beating up” laxus just like every1 else when erza was getting beating by kagura No1 was shocked.
what I don’t understand that u contradict urself too many times u admitted that laxus>erza months ago and yet ur till denying it like u didn’t say that sometime I think u be trollling
You dont need to interpret anything. Implications are clear as are with gray statements regarding laxus and gildarts. Fairy tail ain't for phd scholars
Lol. I didn't know you will go so low. You are literally trying ignore the manga to get a point here. Orga demanded jura to take his attack, that was all. You want to ignore that. And then you say you are open minded.
It doesn't, but its possible.
Fresh SO erza will have alot easier time beating kagura or Minerva. Together she still might have a chance. Same as jura hype.
Sure, that Sting, their linchpin, should avoid the two characters that just appeared on tv.
What's there to ignore? Orga can demand all he wants, he still got oneshot, a feat that was clearly made to display Jura's power. You seriously trying to tell me everyone was crapping their pants cause "Jura so smart"? Get out of here.
Alright, fine. I guess I'll be saying Kyrai+Erza gave Laxus a extreme diff fight from now on.
She was shocked when Alexis was “beating up” laxus just like every1 else when erza was getting beating by kagura No1 was shocked.
what I don’t understand that u contradict urself too many times u admitted that laxus>erza months ago and yet ur till denying it like u didn’t say that sometime I think u be trollling
No
I am not that precise
Even now i have no problem saying pre ts laxus can be stronger than pre ts erza.
My problem is the way people try to create a gap between them.
They were always on the same tier. With no one really knowing who is stronger among them.
This is why ff arc laxus didnt stomp erza.
This is why no one other laxus said he is stronger than erza.
This why even now. There was nothing about how erza will beat this power house, instead we had a comment about two strongest members.
For every power up erza used, laxus matched her in releasing his own power up. Still he couldn't put erza down. Erza fell because of exhaustion
This after we heard about huge training laxus did between tartarus and alverzec, and huge power up he got between alverzec and 100 year quest. And literally no power up comment about erza
No
I am not that precise
Even now i have no problem saying pre ts laxus can be stronger than pre ts erza.
My problem is the way people try to create a gap between them.
They were always on the same tier. With no one really knowing who is stronger among them.
This is why ff arc laxus didnt stomp erza.
This is why no one other laxus said he is stronger than erza.
This why even now. There was nothing about how erza will beat this power house, instead we had a comment about two strongest members.
For every power up erza used, laxus matched her in releasing his own power up. Still he couldn't put erza down. Erza fell because of exhaustion
This after we heard about huge training laxus did between tartarus and alverzec, and huge power up he got between alverzec and 100 year quest. And literally no power up comment about erza
Sure, that Sting, their linchpin, should avoid the two characters that just appeared on tv.
What's there to ignore? Orga can demand all he wants, he still got oneshot, a feat that was clearly made to display Jura's power. You seriously trying to tell me everyone was crapping their pants cause "Jura so smart"? Get out of here.
Alright, fine. I guess I'll be saying Kyrai+Erza gave Laxus a extreme diff fight from now on.
Jura power was shown was.shocking as gajeel power or as Minerva power. But the fact remain, orga never challenged jura to a.fight, he tried to trick him. Instead he himself got tricked. That is what happened in the manga
Sadly no. Kyria barely effected the fight. And erza held back for majority of the fight.
Unlike kagura who did reasonable damage to pre ts erza. Then that leg thing
As I said it's not as simple
Jura power was shown was.shocking as gajeel power or as Minerva power. But the fact remain, orga never challenged jura to a.fight, he tried to trick him. Instead he himself got tricked. That is what happened in the manga
Sadly no. Kyria barely effected the fight. And erza held back for majority of the fight.
Unlike kagura who did reasonable damage to pre ts erza. Then that leg thing
As I said it's not as simple
Hardly anyone ever challenges anyone to a fight. They show up, they attack. Trick, no trick, doesn't matter, because there is nothing suggesting the trick helped the oneshot, and there is everything suggesting that it didn't, aka, everyone crapping their pants. So I'm going to ask you again, was Jura oneshotting Orga meant to display Jura's strength or his brains?
Yep, Laxus held back against Kyria too. But hey, if tackling fights consecutively is the same as 2v1, then fine.
Jura power was shown was.shocking as gajeel power or as Minerva power. But the fact remain, orga never challenged jura to a.fight, he tried to trick him. Instead he himself got tricked. That is what happened in the manga
Sadly no. Kyria barely effected the fight. And erza held back for majority of the fight.
Unlike kagura who did reasonable damage to pre ts erza. Then that leg thing
As I said it's not as simple
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Tenrou laxus vs fresh tenrou natsu team
Not even close.
Laxus i think would be equal to natsu plus gray plus wendy
Hardly anyone ever challenges anyone to a fight. They show up, they attack. Trick, no trick, doesn't matter, because there is nothing suggesting the trick helped the oneshot, and there is everything suggesting that it didn't, aka, everyone crapping their pants. So I'm going to ask you again, was Jura oneshotting Orga meant to display Jura's strength or his brains?
Yep, Laxus held back against Kyria too. But hey, if tackling fights consecutively is the same as 2v1, then fine.
Jura one shotting orga was meant to display his power.
The challenge before was meant to show orga tricking him, but instead got tricked.
Its a low diff or one shot sure, but not clean one
Jura one shotting orga was meant to display his power.
The challenge before was meant to show orga tricking him, but instead got tricked.
Its a low diff or one shot sure, but not clean one
Jura one shotting orga was meant to display his power.
The challenge before was meant to show orga tricking him, but instead got tricked.
Its a low diff or one shot sure, but not clean one
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