Fantasy Laxus Dreyar vs Erza Scarlet

[Seven777]

Why care that those attacks left injuries on her hand when they didn't inhibit her in any way afterwards? One thing that has been consistent is her ability to fight while being injured. If she could fight after being severely broken by a dragon how can Laxus bring her down, especially when she could use lightning empress armor to decrease the effect of his lightning when he attacks. Let's be honest with ourselves. Erza could have her head chopped off and still be capable of fighting.

Because that means she is less durable than Gray. Injuries rarely ever hinder anyone in FT unless its the blow that knocks them out, was Gray hindered in any way when END punched him in the face? No, and unlike Erza he didnt suffer severe burns from tanking ENDs attacks.

As for Laxus bringing her down and Erza running around with her head cut off... not getting into it, tbh i dont give a shit about Laxus anymore, i do still think he is stronger, but i dont care enough to argue it, not at the moment. What i do care about is people ignoring Erza's piss poor performance against weaklings, PoF is all well and good, but in the end that only boosts her for short ridiculous moments always heavily reliant on enemy PiS, the rest of the time she is getting her ass kicked.

Isn't this similar to Erza vs Ajeel and Laxus vs Ajeel? Laxus would one shot Ajeel easier than Erza could because swords, physical objects and Erza's primary source of power were ineffective against Ajeel while lightning wasn't.

Difference is that Erza still had the means to injure Ajeel with Nakagami, yet she failed to oneshot him. Jellal on the other hand had no way around Acnologia's immunity to magic since he didnt bring any physical weapons.

 

[Andarien]

Meh my final thoughts
FF arc - Laxus > Erza mid diff
Laxus > Natsu - low diff but not important, certain person will argue this forever
Tenrou arc - Laxus > Erza low diff
GMG arc - Laxus > Erza(SO) mid diff
Tartaros arc - Laxus > Erza mid diff
Alvarez arc - Erza > Laxus low diff sad but true

Lol, I was just a spectator till now, but witnessing such monstrous claims I had no choice but to create an account and clarify some things.

Since the beginning of the anime, there was no single period during which Laxus would beat down Erza with anything more than mid difficulty, up until the manga's conclusion.

Making the claim that Erza would ever low diff Laxus is beyond absurdly stupid. Laxus certainly wouldn't dispose of her like she were garbage, I will give you that, but he wouldn't be much far away from doing so. The Erza wanking needs to stop.

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Laxus is outmatched, possibly in every relevant area bar speed (by speed, I mean who would get from point A to B faster). Her feats of strength, power, endurance and versatility should simply overwhelm Laxus--minimum difficulty.

You are trolling. Admit it. That's about comparable to saying that Lucy no diffs Gajeel.

 

[LaGOAT]

Lol, I was just a spectator till now, but witnessing such monstrous claims I had no choice but to create an account and clarify some things.

Since the beginning of the anime, there was no single period during which Laxus would beat down Erza with anything more than mid difficulty, up until the manga's conclusion.

Making the claim that Erza would ever low diff Laxus is beyond absurdly stupid. Laxus certainly wouldn't dispose of her like she were garbage, I will give you that, but he wouldn't be much far away from doing so. The Erza wanking needs to stop.

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You are trolling. Admit it. That's about comparable to saying that Lucy no diffs Gajeel.

bro im a laxus fan but as this moment of this BS manga Eos erza>>Eos Laxus

 

[Stormsfury]

Erza stomps, everyone needs to accept that.

 

[Andarien]

Erza stomps, everyone needs to accept that.

Dude, it would be strange even if just one person believed this bullshit. I've never given much account to unquantifiable feats anyway. The only thing that matters is what the writer has in mind, and I am sure that if one were to ask Mashima as to which one is stronger, the answer would be Laxus. It has been implied numerous times that Laxus is at least a tier above her. Think about the following: 1) Laxus, at the beginning of the anime, taking on Erza, Mystogan, Natsu, and Gajeel. Granted, his "fights" with Erza or Mystogan did not last, but could you ever imagine Erza switching parts with Laxus in this istance, or in the instances that I will mention next? 2) Laxus taking on Hades 1v1 and dishing out some good damage before falling, after Erza with her companions had been low diffed. Think of Laxus with the team, instead of Erza at that instance, getting low diffed with the rest of them, then Erza intervening to save the whole lot of them. Laxus had been used as a Deus Ex Machina to save the day in many cases. 3) Mirajane stating that her and Erza together couldn't defeat Jura, whom Laxus proceeded to beat. Do you really think that Mashima did not mean to imply that Laxus could be stronger than both of them combined? Of course he thought about it, and the implications of Mirajane's statement. 4) Erza getting stomped by Ajeel, whom Laxus would be able to mortally wound with one casual nuke. Think of Erza switching places with Laxus. Laxus getting stomped by Ajeel, and Erza portrayed as being powerful enough to casually beat him. But that would never happen. Nor would anyone be able to imagine it. There is literally no reason for Mashima to change this dynamic at this point. Everything one needs to know in regards to power dynamics, lies in such moments. Not some random feat that is greatly inconsistent with the character's power displays up to that point.

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bro im a laxus fan but as this moment of this BS manga Eos erza>>Eos Laxus

My man, I find it strange that there are some people in this forum that think that Erza would be able to beat Laxus. I've got about 10 friends that read the manga, more or less, and even at this point, most of them are more than certain that Laxus would be able to 1v2 Erza and Mira together, so this Erza wanking must be a "mangahelpers" thing only. At this point, with Zeref, Acno, August, etc gone, Laxus is widely regarded at the strongest mage in the fairy tail universe after Natsu and maybe Gildarts.

 

[Jko]

Nah, Erza and even Mira has comparable feats to Laxus he ain't 2 vs 1 against them.

It's a toss up for me. Only clear among the top of the guild is 1. Natsu and 2 Gildarts. 3. Is a toss up.

 

[LaGOAT]

Dude, it would be strange even if just one person believed this bullshit. I've never given much account to unquantifiable feats anyway. The only thing that matters is what the writer has in mind, and I am sure that if one were to ask Mashima as to which one is stronger, the answer would be Laxus. It has been implied numerous times that Laxus is at least a tier above her. Think about the following: 1) Laxus, at the beginning of the anime, taking on Erza, Mystogan, Natsu, and Gajeel. Granted, his "fights" with Erza or Mystogan did not last, but could you ever imagine Erza switching parts with Laxus in this istance, or in the instances that I will mention next? 2) Laxus taking on Hades 1v1 and dishing out some good damage before falling, after Erza with her companions had been low diffed. Think of Laxus with the team, instead of Erza at that instance, getting low diffed with the rest of them, then Erza intervening to save the whole lot of them. Laxus had been used as a Deus Ex Machina to save the day in many cases. 3) Mirajane stating that her and Erza together couldn't defeat Jura, whom Laxus proceeded to beat. Do you really think that Mashima did not mean to imply that Laxus could be stronger than both of them combined? Of course he thought about it, and the implications of Mirajane's statement. 4) Erza getting stomped by Ajeel, whom Laxus would be able to mortally wound with one casual nuke. Think of Erza switching places with Laxus. Laxus getting stomped by Ajeel, and Erza portrayed as being powerful enough to casually beat him. But that would never happen. Nor would anyone be able to imagine it. There is literally no reason for Mashima to change this dynamic at this point. Everything one needs to know in regards to power dynamics, lies in such moments. Not some random feat that is greatly inconsistent with the character's power displays up to that point.

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My man, I find it strange that there are some people in this forum that think that Erza would be able to beat Laxus. I've got about 10 friends that read the manga, more or less, and even at this point, most of them are more than certain that Laxus would be able to 1v2 Erza and Mira together, so this Erza wanking must be a "mangahelpers" thing only. At this point, with Zeref, Acno, August, etc gone, Laxus is widely regarded at the strongest mage in the fairy tail universe after Natsu and maybe Gildarts.

Bro u saw the last 2 chapter of the manga right? Bro u saw what she did to Irene right? Call it how it is bro. When nakama power is in full effect erza just solos any1 u saw how this manga turn to a mess

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Nah, Erza and even Mira has comparable feats to Laxus he ain't 2 vs 1 against them.

It's a toss up for me. Only clear among the top of the guild is 1. Natsu and 2 Gildarts. 3. Is a toss up.

Laxus solo Mira tf? But erza solos laxus

 

[Jko]

Bro u saw the last 2 chapter of the manga right? Bro u saw what she did to Irene right? Call it how it is bro. When nakama power is in full effect erza just solos any1 u saw how this manga turn to a mess

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Laxus solo Mira tf? But erza solos laxus

I never said Laxus would lose I said they have comparable feats which is true. He gets his butt beat in a 2v1 as 1v1 is already a toss up.

 

[Andarien]

Bro u saw the last 2 chapter of the manga right? Bro u saw what she did to Irene right? Call it how it is bro. When nakama power is in full effect erza just solos any1 u saw how this manga turn to a mess

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Laxus solo Mira tf? But erza solos laxus

Irene was overhyped. She was greatly underwhelming. Laxus would probably pound her with no more than mid difficulty. Alone.

Erza has surely had some nice development, but there is nothing that suggests that Laxus isn't still her superior by a vast margin. If you think otherwise, tell me why and we can discuss it.

 

[LaGOAT]

Irene was overhyped. She was greatly underwhelming. Laxus would probably pound her with no more than mid difficulty. Alone.

Erza has surely had some nice development, but there is nothing that suggests that Laxus isn't still her superior by a vast margin. If you think otherwise, tell me why and we can discuss it.

what she did to acnologia is enough. laxus was toss around when erza easily pushed acnologia to the ship

 

[Nemispelled]

I agree with @Andarien here. I don't consider Erza's feats against Irene anything exceptional. Her performance was comparable to what all the other FT mages achieved against their own respective Spriggans.

Irene's dragon form was the only thing that stood out in that battle... but Erza had Wendy's DS magic to help her win during that situation.

And to be honest, Wendy and Erza practically tag-teamed throughout that entire match, so the credit is equally divided between the two, not just Erza.

Simply put, Irene was underwhelming. Her strongest spell, Deus Sema, was embarrassing along with most of her other enchantments.



On the other hand, Laxus tanked a hit from Human Acnologia at point-blank range. Hence, my vote still goes to Laxus.

 

[Andarien]

what she did to acnologia is enough. laxus was toss around when erza easily pushed acnologia to the ship

Laxus was tossed around by the series' single most powerful character, bar Zeref, and even that was a great testament to his power. Heck, there are many top tiers that would potentially perish from a single strike.

Acnologia in his human form, even though he's probably not as durable and does not pack the same power in his attacks, is immensely more agile, fast, and more importantly, he can think and react. What Erza did, was to simply push a huge chunk of meat that did not even try to resist or counter her attack. It was simply a feat of moving a large object, which is no big deal at this stage of the anime.

Think of it this way. There are 2 people. One is a 83kg strong fit male that can bench 200kg, and the other one is a 140kg slob who cannot even press half his weight. If you try to push them around and they do not actively resist you, you'll see that it's much more difficult to throw around the heavy person instead of the strong, lighter one. Even if they do, if they do not push backwards, the result will still be the same, which means that when there's no active resistance, power levels are irrelevant.

What's more, Makarov literally wrestled with the beast in the past. Still, he would not be able to stomp post time-skip Laxus.

I would argue that this versus could be anywhere from a low mid diff fight to an utter stomp. I could also argue that this thread is close to being a spite one. It's not a matter of who wins this fight. It's a matter of how difficult would be for Laxus to beat her up.

 

[Cosmicstar]

Erza simply has better feats than Laxus end of story.

Erza tanked the entire power of Tenrou Island while Laxus fell to Hades Amestrua 28

Erza blocked a city level slash, destroyed an uber enchanted Meteor with Broken bones and Easily Sliced through Minerva God War magic.

Irene>>>Whal

Rosemary Sword>>>>Red Lightning

 

[Andarien]

@Cosmicstar dude seriously? You really want to mention Laxus' performance against Hades, which was far better than anyone else's, included Makarov's, when Hades mopped the floor with Erza, Natsu and Gray at the same time?

As for Irene being more powerful than Wahl, their respective showings show otherwise. Even if she were, that still wouldn't account for much, because when Laxus managed to bypass Wahl's immunity to his magic, he actually one-shotted him. As I stated beforehand, Irene did not live up to her hype. Laxus would beat her up with mid difficulty at most. The guy was actually implied to be able to one-shot a Spriggan tier opponent with a casual nuke, in a casual way. He was so casually casual it's mindblowing.

Erza has simply had more feats, in sheer volume, because she's more of a central character. Laxus' portrayal though, has been much more imposing. Whenever Laxus is around, you know that shit is gonna get real. You don't quite get the same feeling from Erza. Like ever.

Do not use pre time-skip feats to make a case for Erza being stronger than Laxus. Pre time-skip, no case could be made whatsoever. It was so blatantly obvious they were worlds apart, that even making an attempt to claim otherwise, shows an enormous amount of ignorance and lack of common sense.

The only instance that could even come close to remotely be considered by some people, as indicative of Erza having surpassed Laxus, is when she pushed Acno down. In regards to that, I've conveyed my line of thinking in my post above. Check it out to follow it. To any person with above average critical thinking skills, it's still obvious that, were they to face each other, Erza wouldn't stand a chance. Since the beginning of the anime, she hardly ever was in the position to challenge him, let alone beat him.

In the end, it's nothing but a story. All that matters is what the author has in mind. That is something which a simplistic way of thinking such as "X feat performed by A character > Y feat performed by B character, so A character > B character", does not give us adequate insight into.

Personally, even when comparing feats alone, I still think Laxus has the upper hand. Certain feats which we have nothing to compare them against, like Erza's against Acno, are difficult to gauge. There are people that claim she may be the most powerful character in the guild, after Natsu and Gildarts, to people that still consider her being around Mirajane's level, which would certainly be far below Laxus' own.

I hope I gave you some insight mate.

 

[Cosmicstar]

@Cosmicstar dude seriously? You really want to mention Laxus' performance against Hades, which was far better than anyone else's, included Makarov's, when Hades mopped the floor with Erza, Natsu and Gray at the same time?

As for Irene being more powerful than Wahl, their respective showings show otherwise. Even if she were, that still wouldn't account for much, because when Laxus managed to bypass Wahl's immunity to his magic, he actually one-shotted him. As I stated beforehand, Irene did not live up to her hype. Laxus would beat her up with mid difficulty at most. The guy was actually implied to be able to one-shot a Spriggan tier opponent with a casual nuke, in a casual way. He was so casually casual it's mindblowing.

Erza has simply had more feats, in sheer volume, because she's more of a central character. Laxus' portrayal though, has been much more imposing. Whenever Laxus is around, you know that shit is gonna get real. You don't quite get the same feeling from Erza. Like ever.

Do not use pre time-skip feats to make a case for Erza being stronger than Laxus. Pre time-skip, no case could be made whatsoever. It was so blatantly obvious they were worlds apart, that even making an attempt to claim otherwise, shows an enormous amount of ignorance and lack of common sense.

The only instance that could even come close to remotely be considered by some people, as indicative of Erza having surpassed Laxus, is when she pushed Acno down. In regards to that, I've conveyed my line of thinking in my post above. Check it out to follow it. To any person with above average critical thinking skills, it's still obvious that, were they to face each other, Erza wouldn't stand a chance. Since the beginning of the anime, she hardly ever was in the position to challenge him, let alone beat him.

In the end, it's nothing but a story. All that matters is what the author has in mind. That is something which a simplistic way of thinking such as "X feat performed by A character > Y feat performed by B character, so A character > B character", does not give us adequate insight into.

Personally, even when comparing feats alone, I still think Laxus has the upper hand. Certain feats which we have nothing to compare them against, like Erza's against Acno, are difficult to gauge. There are people that claim she may be the most powerful character in the guild, after Natsu and Gildarts, to people that still consider her being around Mirajane's level, which would certainly be far below Laxus' own.

I hope I gave you some insight mate.

Your argument became invalid the minute you said Whal has better feats than irene. Please show me those feats cause I must have missed them. Stop acting like Laxus beating Whal was anything impressive when by all means Kagura was even able to deal with Whal nukes.

From a non bias stand point of view Erza powerset and feats simply trumps laxus's. Rather you consider what Erza does Nakama or BS it doesn't matter because it still happens.

 

[Andarien]

@Cosmicstar I may have exaggerated, I admit it, but still. Look at what I followed that statement with. Even if Irene is more powerful than Wahl, it still won't matter. As soon as Laxus bypassed Wahl's immunity, he didn't struggle. He actually one-shotted him. There was a reason Hiro put him against the sole Spriggan he simply couldn't deal damage to. Were he to fight anyone else, except for August, it would've been a terrible stomp, and the whole hype around the Spriggans would crumble to pieces. So you cannot claim that Irene > Wahl and Laxus = Wahl, therefore Irene > Laxus. Laxus was portrayed to be so much above the Spriggans he interracted with it was laughable.

Erza was being trashed by Ajeel, whom Laxus was implied being able to one-shot without effort.

From a raw power standpoint, Laxus simply cannot be matched. He is a powerhouse, plain and simple. It isn't his battle smarts or knowledge or versatility or anything else that gives him the edge over the vast majority of mages. He simply overwhelms them with speed and power.

What Erza has over him, is versatility. I'll give you that. She is much better at adapting under less than ideal circumstances, which is a BIG plus.

One more thing. I didn't state that I disregard Erza's feats because they are POF induced. It's simply that, even with her POF, I still regard Laxus as much more impressive. SImple as that.

I am curious, when exactly do you think that Erza surpassed Laxus? Which is the feat that finally gave her the edge, in your mind? The Irene or the Acnologia one?

P.S. I hope you didn't ignore my post above, after the Wahl vs Irene statement. I made some really good points.

 

[LaGOAT]

@Cosmicstar I may have exaggerated, I admit it, but still. Look at what I followed that statement with. Even if Irene is more powerful than Wahl, it still won't matter. As soon as Laxus bypassed Wahl's immunity, he didn't struggle. He actually one-shotted him. There was a reason Hiro put him against the sole Spriggan he simply couldn't deal damage to. Were he to fight anyone else, except for August, it would've been a terrible stomp, and the whole hype around the Spriggans would crumble to pieces. So you cannot claim that Irene > Wahl and Laxus = Wahl, therefore Irene > Laxus. Laxus was portrayed to be so much above the Spriggans he interracted with it was laughable.

Erza was being trashed by Ajeel, whom Laxus was implied being able to one-shot without effort.

From a raw power standpoint, Laxus simply cannot be matched. He is a powerhouse, plain and simple. It isn't his battle smarts or knowledge or versatility or anything else that gives him the edge over the vast majority of mages. He simply overwhelms them with speed and power.

What Erza has over him, is versatility. I'll give you that. She is much better at adapting under less than ideal circumstances, which is a BIG plus.

One more thing. I didn't state that I disregard Erza's feats because they are POF induced. It's simply that, even with her POF, I still regard Laxus as much more impressive. SImple as that.

I am curious, when exactly do you think that Erza surpassed Laxus? Which is the feat that finally gave her the edge, in your mind? The Irene or the Acnologia one?

P.S. I hope you didn't ignore my post above, after the Wahl vs Irene statement. I made some really good points.

doenst matter i can say that erza getting stronger as the arc progresses i mean she was able to hold her on with irene when wendy was knocked out i mean irene who is way above ajeel. plus the only resaon she struggle at the begining was she was handicap from one of brandish lackey and when she was u saw the difference pkus i could argue that if she used nakamagami armor from the start or her (nakama POF red pants she used to win every battle) she would beaten ajeel. that like saying since team natsu was struggling against brandish lackey in the beginning of the arc it means that they shouldnt be strong enough to beat a spriggan. it doesnt work that way i mean if elfman and LISANNA of all ppl can beat ajeel u think erza cant?

2 erza endurance is way higher than laxus do u think if laxus had broken bones like erza she would preform the same feat like her busting a meteor?? i doubt it but who hiro can pull something like that he wanted because he has fucked up the powerlevel in the manga.

yes i agree that laxus is stronger than most of the spriggan i probably would say August and maybe irene and lacarde (iif he can speedblitz him)are the only ones that are his way.

erza perform the impossble and pushing ancologia to the ground and he was screaming in pain when she attack him while lacuswas geting toss around by anco finger

hiro fucked the the PLs my friend and it sucks to admit it erza is God tier in this manga along with natsu. i mean base natsu oneshot FH zeref for god sake

 

[Andarien]

@Laxus pwns natsu Erza fought Irene 2 versus 1 with Wendy's aid, who was a direct counter to Irene. By the time Wendy was out, Erza had already received an absurd amount of help. The common consensus is that Laxus would put down Irene with no more than mid difficulty, and he would do it ALONE. We've already talked about this. It doesn't matter if Irene is stronger than Ajeel, since Laxus is immensely more powerful than him.

As I said, it's a matter of portrayal. Erza's been constantly shown getting trashed by not very impressive fellows. Laxus straight out obliterates them. Whenever he's shown having any difficulty against such opponents, there's plot induced constraints thrown upon him (such as his sickness, or that robot dude's immunity against his magic). That is to be expected, since there would be no point in him entering fights in which he'd be unmatched. There should be some suspense after all.

Read what I wrote above about the Acnologia push. It's nothing impressive. She pushed a big sack of meat. Big deal. Meanwhile Laxus tanked human Acnologia's attack, who was casually able to kill God Serena in one strike. A guy that would beat Erza down with even more ease than Ajeel did.

Erza is really nowhere near Natsu. The only people that are comparable to him are Gildarts and Laxus. No one else.

Granted, Erza has been shown to be able to demonstrate great willpower and perform miracles under immensely unfavorable circumstances. She's also much more versatile than Laxus. But the sheer difference between their stats is simply so large that those Erza traits would not account for much. At least not in a fight between these two.

As to what you said about Elfman and Lisanna, I could turn this "argument" right back at you. If Erza of all people can push Acnologia you think Laxus can't? :O

Have a good day/night bro.

 

[LaGOAT]

@Laxus pwns natsu Erza fought Irene 2 versus 1 with Wendy's aid, who was a direct counter to Irene. By the time Wendy was out, Erza had already received an absurd amount of help. The common consensus is that Laxus would put down Irene with no more than mid difficulty, and he would do it ALONE. We've already talked about this. It doesn't matter if Irene is stronger than Ajeel, since Laxus is immensely more powerful than him.

As I said, it's a matter of portrayal. Erza's been constantly shown getting trashed by not very impressive fellows. Laxus straight out obliterates them. Whenever he's shown having any difficulty against such opponents, there's plot induced constraints thrown upon him (such as his sickness, or that robot dude's immunity against his magic). That is to be expected, since there would be no point in him entering fights in which he'd be unmatched. There should be some suspense after all.

Read what I wrote above about the Acnologia push. It's nothing impressive. She pushed a big sack of meat. Big deal. Meanwhile Laxus tanked human Acnologia's attack, who was casually able to kill God Serena in one strike. A guy that would beat Erza down with even more ease than Ajeel did.

Erza is really nowhere near Natsu. The only people that are comparable to him are Gildarts and Laxus. No one else.

Granted, Erza has been shown to be able to demonstrate great willpower and perform miracles under immensely unfavorable circumstances. She's also much more versatile than Laxus. But the sheer difference between their stats is simply so large that those Erza traits would not account for much. At least not in a fight between these two.

As to what you said about Elfman and Lisanna, I could turn this "argument" right back at you. If Erza of all people can push Acnologia you think Laxus can't? :O

Have a good day/night bro.

i didnt say erza didnt get help i said while wendy was temporarily out erza held her own https://www.mangatown.com/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c518/3.html
https://www.mangatown.com/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c518/5.html plus it doesnt matter if erza had help the fact she was able to do that to the 2nd strongest spriggan means something now its possible laxus can beat irene 1v1 because of DS advantage i guess but let u ask u this can wendy beat irene 1v1? if so how give me ur ranking with irene gildartz laxus and wendy since u said u dont believe in the A>B B>C A=/=>C logic

yes i agree in the past laxus was leaps and bounds over erza but this arc change that just liike how lauxs was a whole another tier higher than natsu by portrayal and erza>natsu but by tat logic laxus should be till be stronger than natsu too but no he isnt anymore..

anco was more serious killing God sernna then he was with the 7DS plus he didnt want to kill them and was toying with all of them. anco laugh off laxus attack while erza cause anco to scream in pain https://www.mangatown.com/manga/fairy_tail/v38/c543/20.html so of course laxus cant since he couldnt even more 50% human acno. by the 7DS tanks anco attacks so plz expalin that.

bro im a huge laxus fan any1 knows that but its hiro fucked up the PLs it doesnt make sense the POF erza and Natsu are GOD tier in their verse

 

[Andarien]

@Laxus pwns natsu I already told you. In Fairy Tail, such moments don't mean much. If the manga continued, by simple portrayal and hints, Laxus' dominance would be reestablished. Since the manga ended, the author had no chance to restore the perceived power dynamics to where it should be (notice I'm using the word "perceived"). He might not even think he needed to, since many people, including me, adamantly disregard Erza's showings in the last arc as indicators of her superior power compared to Laxus, which means that his thinking could be following the same path as ours.

Makarov wrestled with dragon Acnologia before the timeskip. The same Makarov that was stomped by Hades, whom Laxus proceeded to battle with, in a fight where he stood his own. Do you understand now why it's not so easy to decide on character power levels solely based on fighting feats? :P

Of course Wendy wouldn't be able to defeat Irene on her own, like what the fuck. Comparing Wendy to Laxus is like comparing Nami to Zoro! :P It doesn't just take a random dragonslayer to deal with a dragon, it takes an extremely powerful dragonslayer to pull off such a feat, such as Laxus. Wendy's not that. If I were to rank those four, this would be the order: Gildarts = Laxus (or maybe slightly stronger) >> Irene >>>>> Wendy. Wendy is extremely useful as an ally in a fight, but her usefulness lies in her being a reliable supporting force. She's not much of a fighter on her own.

Erza might be more powerful that Natsu at the beginning of the anime. It didn't take long for Natsu to surpass her, but it wasn't always obvious, since Natsu's showings have been greatly inconsistent, whereas Erza has been performing consistently within the standards Hiro has set up for her (including the PIS and PoF moments).

Character statements and hints of other characters' power levels, as well as simple portrayal, are the most reliable ways to extract conclusions as to what's really true within a story.