Well that's because they are glass canons.and my point was that MP is shit
when Spriggans were giving our characters fear in their bones by their presence but it meant jackshit
I would say Ajeel had pretty impressive skills.
Though against Laxus Sandworld is useless:-
Laxus' AoE is lower than Sandworld.
Ur funny u know that right? laxus can't oneshot -ajeel because u believe Ajeel said he could have tanked if august wasn't there? Lool the same ajeel that couldn't tank Jupiter when a phantom lord erza could. The same ajeel that lost to elfman and lisanna OK then... anyways the reason why laxus had a hard time was becuase he had 2 disadvantage MBP and immunity to lighting. If he didn't have those disadvantages its possible that he would have gotten onehsotted by laxus. Wahls durability is very questionable becuase he had the benefit of fighting some1 that he had an advantage over. U wanna bring feats what are END FEATS? the END we saw couldn't solo gray and was casually stop by erza. Why shouldn't I not compare to his MP to laxus???? END is overhype when he hasn't shown any special it's debatable if it's stronger than FDKM NATSU. Erza had enough MP to stop DEUS SEMA so if erza has MP to stop Irene strongest attack do u believe is stronger than dimaria so erza>dimaria right??? Now the question do u believe erza>laxus?? Btw wahl and did mention how laxus is a top tier dude even when the mbp in him
I guess you don't know that you're the one being funny here. Let's take a look back on your logic and assumption. You're saying that Laxus has greater MP than END and Dimaria, and if I'm not mistaken he had a hard time fighting Wahl, let's say yes he has a disadvantage because of the electricity thing, don't you think that age seal IS MUCH GREATER THREAT FOR HIM?? It has been stated that the spriggan 12 are somewhat the same in terms of MP but different in power and hax, if Dimaria can stop Brandish, don't you think she can do it to Wahl and Laxus as well?? Think a second. BTW as what I've said ERZA HAS GREAT DURABILITY and that's the reason why she tanked Deus Sema not because she has higher MP than Irene, should I repeat it again and again?? If you're asking me who's more durable between Laxus and Erza then there's no doubt that ERZA IS MORE DURABLE THAN LAXUS IN TERMS OF FEATS, so what are you asking me about Erza being greater than Laxus?? Is it about durability?? Or in different terms?? Because the main factor that made Erza survived Deus Sema is mainly because of her durability.
Laxus is more durable and stronger than Erza Laxus was fighting alone against Hades while erza was stomped in the ground alongside (Batsu.Gray.Wendy.and Lucy)
Dude using those old feats isn't gonna help when Erza has inproved much more than compared to then. Focus on the updated ones which no matter how cringy it is to face facts, Erza does appear to have better durability or endurance than Laxus. But I don't find her stronger than he is.
Except that ur not getting the point laxus can oneshot a spriggan tier I just told u that laxus had 2 disadvantages the MBP and the immunity to lighting. It's possible that MBP could affected his MP and power. I told u if wall wasn't immune to lighting laxus wouldn't have a hard time there is a possibility of laxus oneshotting him too wall durability is in question outside of immunity to lighting is my point. No spriggan 12 are in the same tier but not in MP hence why some are greater than others. Erza didn't tank deus sema she destroy it she had enough MP to destroy it go reread the chapter. No I didn't say erza MP>Irene MP i saying her MP could be higher than dimaria because of that feat. I'm asking if u believe erza>laxus if they would have fought
I don't think that neither Erza nor Laxus can stop age seal, let's leave it like that, 'cause I think we're getting far-stretched in this topic. We have seen Erza and Natsu to be affected by hax when they are in their base form or at least when they aren't serious, as we have seem from Marin and Brandish, and I can say that Laxus is no different, he can be surely affected by hax too, like what we saw from Larcade. You can argue that Larcade has been stated to be the top 3 or at least above average spriggan that's why his hax affected even Gildarts, but then again if Erza has enough MP to break that meteor, why she's still affected by Marin's hax then?? It's because of the inconsistencies that's why many people become confused with the power levels, hax, and MP. But then again, it's clear that even Natsu can be affected by hax as we have seen from Brandish when she was able to make Natsu's head big, and even Dimaria said that she could have just easily shrunk his organs, but when Natsu started to transform into a demon, her magic and even Dimaria's did not work on him, it just shows the TREMENDOUS amount of magic that Natsu gained when he became a demon, and I don't even think that Laxus can rival that, because if Laxus has enough MP to rival END then that makes Natsu an "ant" then, because he can be affected by such hax in his base form, and if Laxus has enough MP to rival END then what's the point of this whole manga?? I know that Mashima has silly decisions in making power levels laughable, but I think it would be more laughable if we say Laxus can match END in terms of MP, he was hyped because he deserves it, it's the way it's supposed to be. BTW I understand your argument with Wahl's durability, there's no need to bring it up again. .
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BTW let me counter your argument one by one.
bro ur right but are u gonna say that 9DG and mard geer>Dimaria? Also I was trying to explain that the higher the power its possible to surpass hacks
well I agree with u FT power level is inconsistent as fuck that why sometimes it's pointless to debate but us fans like debate PL to make our favorite character look good we want to prove how powerful they are. hiro has been hyping character just to be a disappointment so I'm not surprise this will happen to the spriggan 12. Earlier I was debating maybe FDKM natsu could break out of age seal also i think it's comparable to END since END was basically and downgraded by gray and erza. But think about it laxus was nerfed vs wall and almost oneshotted ajeel we haven't seen a healthy laxus fight so IMO he can beat all spriggan except lacade Irene god Serena and august
lol Ur right I heard DBS power levels are so bad it's not even funny bro I only watch the eng dub (which I'm behind and I can't stand the subs so I don't bother to watch it) but the manga version isn't doing too bad manga version is way better than the anime IMO but we are getting off topic but ur right about FT it disgusts me at times when I see BS especially natsu"s and erza fights
yeah I agree. manga makes more sense PL wise but story wise is weak in it, not to mention that retcon while anime makes it better but yeah off topic.
Oh my bad then, 'cause I thought she took "INDIRECT" hit from Jupiter Canon, although not as worse as Ajeel, but still.... Even though, I think you agree with me that she has better feats in terms of durability than Laxus with the feats that I have given, even we don't include the Jupiter Canon.
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Fair enough, it's SOMEWHAT understandable that the power levels are confusing, given Mashima's inconsistencies, and we have different sentiments that's why the fans can make an assumption, but believe it or not. Natsu or END is not even one of my favorites not at all, lol, but I agree with Laxus' healthiness when he fights a Spriggan. I just don't think that he can break thru age seal because that would be anticlimactic and knowing Mashima's work is all about PLOT, but in my opinion there's no doubt that Laxus can beat Dimaria without age seal, because Erza is much skilled than her in terms of swordsmanship, IMO and maybe even in her god form Laxus can beat her given the fact that it's possible for a god to be beaten even without GS magic as we have seen from Natsu.
Really?? In what sense?? Can you give a FEAT that suggests he has better durability than Erza?? Because Erza has shown to have greater tolerance than Laxus so far, so I don't even know what you're talking about. Please reread my previous comment and provide Laxus' feat that's better than receiving a Dragon's claw from Irene, breaking a giant meteor, and receiving curses from Kyouka resulting to her loss of senses AND STILL SURVIVED. If Laxus has better durability feat than that, then just let me know.
