Discussion List of Conqueror haki users

[Fox666]

Based on the last chapter, I wonder whether conqueror's haki is not something outright impossible for everyone but rather they simply do not develop the qualities to use it. Conqueror's haki is a matter of will, it cannot be trained like the other too. In that sense, only people with particular personality characteristics could use it. Basically, everyone has it in them to use kings haki and can even learn how to use it but the problem is that just a few in a million actually develop the willpower and personality required to use it to a degree where it'd be worth something.

Well, the fact that Luffy and Ace have it, looking at their family, is a genetic trait, isn't?

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(hancock was clearly effected by luffys when he fought the sisters although it may have just been her being surprised).

You may have watching the anime?

In the manga we don't see her reaction to the king Haki, except for a sweat drip.
http://manga.bleachexile.com/one-piece-chapter-519-page-20.html

Either way, it seems like offending her already cause similar effects =P
http://manga.bleachexile.com/one-piece-chapter-519-page-15.html

 

[tret16]

ya i don't believe it effected her, it simply surprised her since it came out of knowhere... and when it comes to animes, you really can't use them for facts, but i don't know, it seems that Oda has a pretty big influence on what goes into the anime also so maybe that's one thing to look at when it comes to Zoro, since in the managa it doesn't show that part i believe... i tried looking for that scene in the manga and couldn't find it so it's not really a fact per say...

 

[brunoq]

Zoro and the "Color of Conquerer"

I've been reading One Piece early chapters and I saw something that made me think Zoro could use the Sovereing Haki or "Color of Conquerer".
I always thought that zoro could use Haki because he could send his cuts away and make them have shape, and the Lion's Song Cut he did on Mr.1. Then a line Brooke said made me think that he really have haki, here is the page:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2574-3/one-piece/chapter-467.html
The power of destruction line sure sounded like Haki for me, and then, reading back to time he beated the 100 hunters I saw something that really looked like the "Color of the Conquerer" Haki:
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2215-18/one-piece/chapter-108.html

So, what do you think?

 

[kkck]

Re: Zoro and the "Color of Conquerer"

Personally, I do think it is extremely likely zoro will have the conqueror's haki. That said, I don't think sending your attacks flying has anything to do with haki. Rather, it is a matter of physical strength and technique.

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And about using haki to cut through metal, considering what we have seen I think it is plausible. Looking back at zoro's fight with Mr 1, it is hard not to associate the breathing of things with observation haki. I do think it is just a low level use of haki though.

 

[Bugzee]

I would obviously add Dragon & Garp to the list straight away lol even if it isn't confirmed...yet.

As for the others...well I guess the other two Yonkou may possess it...considering WB & Shanks do; it kinda makes sense that the other two Yonkou's posess something on the same level. I don't think Zoro has it yet...maybe...maybe in the future but I just can't see it happening yet.

 

[tret16]

when it comes to garp i know that he doesn't have color of conquerer, dragon i would imagin does. As for Zoro, i don't think he has it, but i think he will have it after time, while observing Luffy doin all of that stuff infront of him... Zoro will most likely see how weak he is without it and then ask luffy to tell him about it...

 

[Skyrius]

But remember, the Color of the Conqueror is the one type of haki that can't be trained. It only comes from and grows with personal spirit. Meaning that people like Luffy, with his sort of will and determination, have access to the Conqueror's haki.

Zoro is certainly just as stubborn as his captain, if not more so. He's shown great strength of character in the recent arcs, including asking Kuma to trade his life for Luffy's and, most recently, bowing down to Mihawk, and even temporarily putting his life's ambition below his desire to becomes stronger for the Luffy and the crew's sake.

EDIT: Besides I always think of Rayleigh when people make the Zoro argument. Rayleigh wasn't the Pirate King, but he must have been close to Roger's level, just like Zoro and Luffy. Zoro doesn't lake tenacity or spirit even in comparison to Luffy. Luffy may have a strong Conqueror's disposition, but I think Zoro has every reason to also have latent abilities with the Conqueror's haki, if what I understand is correct. That the Color of the Conqueror is the only haki and depends solely on spirit and strength of character. The other two are comparable to "techniques" that can be refined and strengthened through training. The Conqueror's is the only one that cannot. And in terms of personal growth, the crew as a WHOLE has realized something very important. Growing stronger for someone else's sake is one of the most unselfish actions I can think of, especially considering some of the ambitions and pasts the Straw Hats have. To see them realize that they have to support Luffy, instead of always the other way around, shows great strength of spirit in my opinion.

 

[roxas_strife2]

On the note of whether or not Zoro has the color of the conqueror, I would say I doubt it actually, but perhaps he has a different variant. I mean, I can see him having the other two colors of Haki easily, but what if conqueror's haki isn't the only other kind than the basic two? I keep thinking of him having a unique kind of Color of Armament. One more destructive. I'm just contemplating, but I think that would be more suited. I don't want to go assuming the Strawhats will just parallel other legendary crews, you know what I mean?

 

[DEATHBOTT]

Confirmed
Rayleigh
Shanks
Newgate
Luffy
Ace
Hancock

Definate
Roger (obvious)
Dragon (luffys dad and powerful figure)

Most Likely
Garp (rival of Roger and grandfather of a user)
Sengoku (power rivals garps and powerful figure from roger and wb era)
Kaidou (rival of wb and shanks)
Big Mom (same)
Aokoji (powerful figure)
Akanui (same)
Kizuru (same)
Kong (powerful character from roger and wb days)


Possibly
Mihawk (he fought evenly with a confirmed user and without a df)
Teach (rival of luffy, powerful figure, and a D)
Dolflimingo (just a hunch)
Law (rival of luffy)
Kidd (same)
Coby (same)
Smoker (same)
Zoro (just a hunch)

 

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[Skyrius]

XD Wrong forum buddy.

Anyways, I was always under the impression that COQ was the only haki that had to be pulled out through spiritual growth. So, in which case, anyone can develop it, but it takes a special sort of will and determination.

 

[tret16]

i don't thnk that garp has it, he seems to have the color of armament, that is obvious. But something, i don't know what it is but something tells me that he doesn't have it... I would pick Zoro before Garp.

 

[Deo_df]

Garp has conquerer, no question about it.

 

[MaiSiaoSiao]

does Ace have the conqueror haki?i dont remember see-ing him use or anyone saying he does O.o

 

[.KiLLeR]

Dragon's king haki was confirmed in the manga.

 

[tret16]

Ace does have it as well, he used it in the flashback with him luffy and sabo. and aso his words that were said when luffy used it in the middle of the war was hinting that he had it. His words i believe were "Luffy, you too" Or something around those lines. and i have yet to see Garp used Conquerer's Haki so you can't say it a sure thing. All Garp has shown so far is that he has Armament Haki.

 

[Renaan]

Is Colour of the Conquerer 'all that'

Here's what I'm thinking...

Basically sure you can limit the number of fodder and smush animals (not sure if it'll always work, some animals may be beyond it), the stronger opponents VC, Captains, VA and Admirals shouldn't be effected. Now they even know Luffy has it so will be ready for it.

So in the end game fights, it's practically useless against any meaningful opponent.

This got me thinging of Rogers, now we know Shanks and Rayleigh had it but it's never been stated that Rogers had it, sure it's kinda implied with the whole 'whenever someone makes impact on the world they usually have it' comment, but it's not outright said.

What if Rogers primary was Observation, from Rayleigh's own words 'Rogers had the ability to hear the voice of all things' (think that's the wording and there's obviously the translation factor) Now Observation lets you know things like when to rip off a collar, when an attack is coming and so forth from what we've observed anyway. What Roger's Colour of Observation was so accurate / powerful / intuitive / (whatever) that the reason he got so far was because of purely that. Sure Armourments is nice and all, but if you can't actually land a blow, it's useless

Example would be the Polyglyph on Sky Island, he didn't translate it, that was state, maybe his Observation simple give him the gyst of the information on it.

The above is also why I do not think he was a DF user I think he didn't need one.

 

[Dark God Zeus]

Re: Is Colour of the Conquerer 'all that'

Not on 1 vs 1 battles, but it would be useful to take out the fodder enemies so you could get to the big fish faster and waste less energy taking them out. And for all we know, there is some uber power that comes with being proficient in all three, or some hidden ability of color of the conquerer.

 

[Turtle Pirate]

Re: Is Colour of the Conquerer 'all that'

i think there's a lot more to that haki that we don't know yet

if it was simply just something that would knock out weak people then why would everyone who's strong, who can't be knocked out by it, be so afraid of it?

I think we've barely been showed what it can do.
Either that or it's just a sign of someone who is destined to become powerful, who has a strong enough will to actually seek and obtain an immense amount of strength.

 

[kkck]

Re: Is Colour of the Conquerer 'all that'

I think conqueror's haki has more of a symbolic meaning rather than actual battle applications. Strong people could dispose of weak people easily with or without CH. And CH is basically useless against worthy enemies. basically, CH is an indication of someone's character, their mettle. Having conqueror's haki is a characteristics of the exceptional, a mark of someone who has it in him to attract others and lead them to greatness. For pirates, it is a giant bullseye for the government to shoot at. For the marines it works as a way to find great leaders.