Lucci vs Zoro

[Franckie]

try moving your head side to side and arms up and down so it looks like you have 6 arms and 3 heads before you say its not the dummest they you heard

and didn't you not see the clouds split due to Shanks and WB fighting auras

Luffy Knocked out a cow with his aura

So Zoro making illsuions with his aura is more than plausable far more than the idea of him moving his head and arms to make it look like that and plus Zoro was standing still not moving when using asura

Even Zoro was weary of fighting Rob Lucci. Later on, Franky comments about Rob Lucci's strength. And keep in mind that Kaku, who is weaker than Lucci, was giving Zoro a run for his money.

Currently, what Zoro has shown stands no chance against what Lucci has shown. Lucci wins the fight.

 

[neomaster121]

Even Zoro was weary of fighting Rob Lucci. Later on, Franky comments about Rob Lucci's strength. And keep in mind that Kaku, who is weaker than Lucci, was giving Zoro a run for his money.

Currently, what Zoro has shown stands no chance against what Lucci has shown. Lucci wins the fight.

ok but i think u quoted the wrong post cause i wasn't talk about Zoro vs lucci in that post

but if you reread oz vs Zoro and ryumma vs Zoro frankys opinions are kind of non important as he doesn't know the full potential of the top 3's strength.

Gear 3s power was too much for Lucci but cause it was slow he was lucky and im just appliying a bit of logic, saying that if odz punched him with his arm being a giant and then Zoro deflected with raw strength then power wise Zoro's stronger read my post before trying to make a opiniated bash of Lucci beating Zoro.

I tried to show things which could show that Zoro could fight DIDN'T say that he could win. You saying Lucci would win out right is just soo wrong on many lvls vs Zoro after TB. Yea at the time its true but now its alot different.

 

[Razh]

try moving your head side to side and arms up and down so it looks like you have 6 arms and 3 heads before you say its not the dummest they you heard

and didn't you not see the clouds split due to Shanks and WB fighting auras

Luffy Knocked out a cow with his aura

So Zoro making illsuions with his aura is more than plausable far more than the idea of him moving his head and arms to make it look like that and plus Zoro was standing still not moving when using asura

Lawl.Try creating aditional limbs and heads with your aura. You would get the same result as I would, moving my head and hands.

Nobody said that WB and Shanks had split the clouds with their auras. I thoufht it was just because of their strenght. Just the same as Mihawk splits ships in half, and Zoro breaks walls (or a tsunami) with a swing of a sword.

And Zoro's katanas weren't illusions as far as I gather. That's just what Kaku thought before Zoro pawned his Amanedachi, and subsequently Kaku himself.
There's no way Zoro could just disperse Kaku's strongest attack if those were just illusions.

 

[neomaster121]

Lawl.Try creating aditional limbs and heads with your aura. You would get the same result as I would, moving my head and hands.

Nobody said that WB and Shanks had split the clouds with their auras. I thoufht it was just because of their strenght. Just the same as Mihawk splits ships in half, and Zoro breaks walls (or a tsunami) with a swing of a sword.

And Zoro's katanas weren't illusions as far as I gather. That's just what Kaku thought before Zoro pawned his Amanedachi, and subsequently Kaku himself.
There's no way Zoro could just disperse Kaku's strongest attack if those were just illusions.

I don't have the aura of any character of one piece so i don't make people fall unconsious as they see me but let me rephase it

keep moving ur head side to side and ur arms up and down until u see 3 heads and 6 arms and then jump and deflect the strongest kicking blade attack ever. 1 Zoro would be dizzy 2 how whould that increase is power 3 it just makes no sense in real life or manga

just think about it

 

[Razh]

You should really check the date of the post in which I wrote that. Besides, I don't think that's the case any more, as I have already written . You must have missed it.

And sure, it would make me dizzy. But tell me, would my pants start burning if I heated them enough?
Why aren't Sanji's pants burning when he uses Diable Jamble, then?

You can't apply that kind of arguments in this manga. Even though I agree that it was because of aura.

 

[neomaster121]

You should really check the date of the post in which I wrote that. Besides, I don't think that's the case any more, as I have already written . You must have missed it.

And sure, it would make me dizzy. But tell me, would my pants start burning if I heated them enough?
Why aren't Sanji's pants burning when he uses Diable Jamble, then?

You can't apply that kind of arguments in this manga. Even though I agree that it was because of aura.

yea ture but with sanjis red foot movements shown i read the manga and anime and with Zoro the extra limbs seem to form without Zoro moving so i just wanted to point out that Asura isn't Zoro moving franticly as it wouldn't explain his power when using the technique.

Also just to say how Zoro know would beat lucci in power but speed is still an issue and so not making any final conclusion

 

[ANBU4U]

i think lucci isnt able to handle asura attack

Zoro could deflect oz with his normal swords
Sanji needed diable flamble

Imagen zoro powered up with asura going to unleash its full power on lucci

Mind you, Sanji deflected a full on Gumu Gumu Gigant Bazooka (stretchy arms and all). Where as Zorro deflected a normal punch.

 

[Superman]

Mind you, Sanji deflected a full on Gumu Gumu Gigant Bazooka (stretchy arms and all). Where as Zorro deflected a normal punch.

Exacly.
And Sanji was right in front of Oz and couldn`t move because he protected Robin. So this was a bashing punch he deflected there.
Zoro had nothing too loose and just jumped aside.
He could just jump two meters more away so he didn`t even had to deflect his punch.
He just wanted to cause damage and hurt poor poor Oz now i am crying.


Other thing!

Now i am convinced that zoro could stand a chance against lucci.
If sanji can handle such a punch than zoro the gaylord has to be really strong.
But he is miles away from his captain in power.
Iam not so sure about his & luffy stamina anymore.
I mean zoro train his ass off and luffy is just having fun.
Maybe Zoro has more.
Wait what am i talking about.
The stamina thing is alright and all and maybe zoro has more or equal strenght than lucci but he couldn`t keep up with luccis technics.
On the other hand, if zoro has such power tekkai wouldn`t work soooo well anymore.
Lucci can alleviate zoros punches with tekkai but he cant protect himself perfectly with it anymore ( but he can alleviate the most of zoros power).
But the hook is....Zoro, first of all, has to keep up with luccies speed.

So iam not convinced anymore that zoro would beat lucci or could even stand a slightest chance against luffy if they get agressive.Only the stamina think is fine with me. The Kuma thing.....ahhh so complicated i dunno.
Fucking shit Luffy has more stamina, i say this only because i cant decide and because i like Luffy more, but i truely think they are equal in stamina and almost equal in power but only then if luffy dont activate his gears
Wow this was a fast twist
Zoro the gaylord is only so strong because of his fucking swords

About asura......this is one of the most unspectacular technics zoro has to look at.
The only cool technic he has is oni giri with the demon above his head.

 

[Franckie]

but if you reread oz vs Zoro and ryumma vs Zoro frankys opinions are kind of non important as he doesn't know the full potential of the top 3's strength.

Franky and Zoro are weaker than Luffy. Zoro was hesitant about fighting with Lucci at Enies Lobby, and not a significant amount of time has passed since the SHs fought CP9. Franky's comment reinforces the idea that Luffy was the only person out of the entire crew who could take on the WG's strongest assassin.

Gear 3s power was too much for Lucci but cause it was slow he was lucky and im just appliying a bit of logic, saying that if odz punched him with his arm being a giant and then Zoro deflected with raw strength then power wise Zoro's stronger read my post before trying to make a opiniated bash of Lucci beating Zoro.

Oz and Lucci are completely two different fighters. Lucci is extremely dangerous from the get-go. Oz, while a potent threat, only becomes an exceptionally deadly menace when Moria is controlling him.

Lucci doesn't fight with just raw power alone. He's intelligent and has full-control over his DF abilities.

I tried to show things which could show that Zoro could fight DIDN'T say that he could win. You saying Lucci would win out right is just soo wrong on many lvls vs Zoro after TB. Yea at the time its true but now its alot different.

Luffy barely won the fight. What makes you think Zoro at he currently stands even has a chance against Lucci? Zoro might be able to do things such as follow Lucci's Soru, but in the end, he will ultimately die. Lucci doesn't need to even bring out his strongest attack, Roku ou Gun, against Zoro.

 

[neomaster121]

Franky and Zoro are weaker than Luffy. Zoro was hesitant about fighting with Lucci at Enies Lobby, and not a significant amount of time has passed since the SHs fought CP9. Franky's comment reinforces the idea that Luffy was the only person out of the entire crew who could take on the WG's strongest assassin.



Oz and Lucci are completely two different fighters. Lucci is extremely dangerous from the get-go. Oz, while a potent threat, only becomes an exceptionally deadly menace when Moria is controlling him.

Lucci doesn't fight with just raw power alone. He's intelligent and has full-control over his DF abilities.



Luffy barely won the fight. What makes you think Zoro at he currently stands even has a chance against Lucci? Zoro might be able to do things such as follow Lucci's Soru, but in the end, he will ultimately die. Lucci doesn't need to even bring out his strongest attack, Roku ou Gun, against Zoro.

Im not and have not said Zoro could beat lucci, stop insinuating that i am cause its irritating to read

in fact its been about 1month + since Tb and ennies lobby and it was more than a week since tb and ennies lobby and in the one piece world thats alot of time to get stronger.

Im just putting out things which may allow Zoro to beat lucci like his power advantage. And i think a real life giant arm is stronger than luffy's blown up giant arm if not even thats all on the matter and unless Oda says otherwise you won't persuade me otherwise.

You not trying to consider advantages and disadvantages of the two is just plain ignarent thats the main reason im not saying Zoro would win out right. Try debating fairly and seeing both sides instead of being so much like a fanboy

even the Zoro hater superman can see someways in which Zoro could find lucci even though the guy hates him if oyu don't then back it up with some evidence of events in one piece.

Just a note Odz was described as being like A monster version of Luffy so i think like Zoro vs luffy back in the begining the crew vs Odz was a small insight to a fight between luffy now and the strength that they may see more regularly.

and if you forgot i have not said Zoro would beat Lucci once.

 

[Luckas]

[Luckas]Calm down guys there is no need for an heated discussion [/Luckas]

 

[Superman]

Woooot Luckas you baka you scared me i thought you werent a mod anymore because your name isn`t in the line on the bottom anymore like imitoras.
Alright since you are still here i can sleep better
Hmmmm it appears to me like a Dejavü right now.

 

[Dice]

Since he's a cook it's only natural for him to wear fireproof clothes XD

 

[Superman]

muhahahaha thats a nice thought dude

 

[Razh]

Since he's a cook it's only natural for him to wear fireproof clothes XD

Geez, he's supposed to be a good cook.

 

[Imitorar]

Moderator Notice:
Everyone, please try to stay on topic.~ Imitorar

 

[neomaster121]

well until zoro ditches his heart pains i think he wouldn't have a chance until at full power

 

[Fallou]

Don't think zoro would beat lucci now, but I expect him to be stronger than lucci soon enough. After all he's constantly training, he's got a new sword, a new technique(although he probably can't do it whenever he wants yet). Maybe after the current arc...

 

[Kaiser Will]

I don't think that Zoro win, Lucci is a very strong guy, and btw his rokushiki is bigger than Kaku, and he have the Rokougan technique, that I think only Luffy is capable of handle that thing!

 

[chronojenix]

nah i think zoro would win.

its cus zoro got shuusui=more power

luffy used gears all fight! zoro was base most fight so his douriki base must be 2200 to be fighting equally with kaku, that speaks volumes about asura
all zoro has to do is spam dat all the time like luffy. also since there arent any drawbacks he can do that the whole fight!

also zoro is a beast when it comes to endurance so i say luffy+df=zoro normal cus of the blunt resistance luffy has and the endurance zoro has

shigan v zoro is a swordfight basically. zoro has fought swordsmen his whole life, he wont lose to lucci there.

yh the speed thing would f*** him up i hav to agree but all zoro has to do is just spin in asura. like even lucci can hit a spinning tornado of blades without getting cut up in the process. he also cant use tekkai and move so definitely not lol

and the rankyaku aspect also has no relevance, ever heard of 108 pound cannon? also try zoro doing dat in asura, dahs like 324 pound cannon. luccis gaichou cannot compare

zoro also has power of destruction and can cut steel, what can tekkai do to him. and if he can cut steel with 1 sword then ichibugin would be enough to hurt lucci

the only major disadvantage i can see is that he doesnt fight opponents who punch. but really i doesnt matter as slashes do more damage in the long run and in fights than punches really. so add dat to his insane endurance and u got zoro matching in asura.

his base is no match but his current asura would win. i mean he can cut a pacifista. thats a true achievement.

also guys, its a manga luffy is stronger than zoro in ONLY POWER! hes the main character to be expected. zoro however is only a little bit behind. you cant blame him but i think its an achievement to be able to be onlt a little bit behind when the former uses fists while he uses blades. in speed luffy outclasses him that why he can keep up with lucci and not worry about the disadvantages shigan and rankakyu can do to him. zoro outclasses luffy to about the same extent together in skill, deadly attacks and endurance. (only straw hat to stand; oz, a bit of moria, ryuuma, kuma with ursus shock too, luffys pain and still stand up! luffy didnt take much from moria or oz and collapsed afterwards) zoro is also superior to luffy due to his combined smartness and trancescion. <-------sounds wierd but he did transcend himself in 1 match lol,once again with luffy only coming a bit behind. if you take all this into account as fighters they are the same but luffy will b better cus hes captain and main character, only they are both better at different aspects.

luffynot actual figures just comparison out of 100)
power: 100
speed:100
intelligence:75
deadly attacks:65
endurance:75(only due to df)
skill:50
transcension:60= 525

zoronot actual figures just comparison out of 100)
power: 84
speed:40
intelligence:83
deadly attacks:80
endurance:93
skill:75(not mihawk)
transcension:70 (got a long way to go)=525 exactly the same

as for the roukougan thing its just the same as when kuma pushed a bit of luffys pain into zoros insides, alot of damge but he still got up and took the whole thing and STILL stood. this shows that even that formidable technique wont beat our first mate.

cus of this now TB zoro will beat lucci in a close,epic battle with an on and off victor. the biggest disadvantage is fighting styles but apart from that im all zoro