Discussion Luffy Discussion Thread

[Grandmaster Woro]

Your the one bringing him up when we suppose to talk about Luffy. Get Zoro of the brain to bring him into every conversation and talk about character other than him for once. Zoro isn't doing anything to be involve in Luffy's fights of major antagonists. Oda push Luffy to be the one to fight his own battles, Zoro won't be involve as Luffy want to face Kaido himself as stated many times.

We have many people doing that to fight Kaido than Zoro who be busy dealing with enemies already stopping him in tracks as shown early like Gifters and Queen, so no way he will be fine in fighting Kaido later even you want to push him into it as that be impossible for his body to handle such a beating to still face him. Luffy will have his cover with Kidd, Law, Scabbards, and more in helping him, but nothing it has to do with Zoro at all no matter how you try to push it.

Only illogical is you somehow pushing Zoro in conversation when Luffy is the one made for to fight Kaido and be major obstacle to his defeat, nothing to do with Zoro at all. Let it go and talk about only Luffy, not force insert a character who doesn't have business in the fight with Kaido as personal as Luffy does with him.

i brought zoro to explain his role to hold down kaido while luffy recovered his haki after using G4. I never bring any discussion on zoro, which you did (most of your post i quoted here just was about bashing at zoro). Just get over your hate towards zoro.

Zoro only improved his CoA, doesn't really give solution to his post G4 exhaustion problem. Luffy needs assist when he used G4 multiple times against kaido (no way luffy would only need to use G4 once especially when zoan is known for having great endurance)

 

[King Moe]

i brought zoro to explain his role to hold down kaido while luffy recovered his haki after using G4. I never bring any discussion on zoro, which you did (most of your post i quoted here just was about bashing at zoro). Just get over your hate towards zoro.

Zoro only improved his CoA, doesn't really give solution to his post G4 exhaustion problem. Luffy needs assist when he used G4 multiple times against kaido (no way luffy would only need to use G4 once especially when zoan is known for having great endurance)

We are talking about G4 and Luffy's new power he could have and you brought Zoro out of nowhere to the discussion when I never state anything remotely to involve him in conversation above. Your pushing agenda to insert him in and going off-topic. Get back talking about Luffy only and not someone who isn't even doesn't concern him with what he is training for and discussion about. Take it to his thread, not here. Nothing to do with hate, but it's logical to not talk about Zoro when he has his own thread for that.

Zoro's Haki and ability is like bug compare to Luffy in his abilities which surpassed him by miles at this point and no Zoro won't be involve in him facing Kaido as it's personal thing for Luffy being one to be main issue for major antagonists for him to defeat, not his crewmmates to do the work for him. Again stop with imaginations and get back on topic just because we don't talk about insecurity wanting everything to be about Zoro. Your getting off topic about talking his stuff when this isn't topic for it. You are going off topic when he has his own topic for whatever is about for him.

 

[Brandish μ]

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Yea, stop that now. Thanks~ Brandish

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

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Yea, stop that now. Thanks~ Brandish

i agree. Off topic discussion on another character is bad, especially when it just comes down to bash at the character (for example, bashing at zoro here).
Anyway, my point is that luffy needs assistance while he recovers his haki. Zoro has a suitable role here since he's been aiming for the kaido fight too.

 

[Brandish μ]

i agree. Off topic discussion on another character is bad, especially when it just comes down to bash at the character (for example, bashing at zoro here).
Anyway, my point is that luffy needs assistance while he recovered his haki. Zoro has a suitable role here since he's been aiming for the kaido fight too.

Yea I agree, Luffy will require assistance. I think it'll be a supernova effort, with Luffy MVP of the fight.

 

[King Moe]

Yea I agree, Luffy will require assistance. I think it'll be a supernova effort, with Luffy MVP of the fight.

Which is why Oda pushing more on Kidd and Law along the possibility of all Supernova Captains (No Killer and Zoro) to face Kaido from how things are looking. Thinking it be an another version of Supernovas vs Bullet from the movie, but different manner to it.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Yea I agree, Luffy will require assistance. I think it'll be a supernova effort, with Luffy MVP of the fight.

if it requires the supernova effort to take down kaido, then i don't know how the alliance would beat down big mom, who is in the same level as kaido.
It's not like big mom is just going to wait for them to finish their fight.

 

[Brandish μ]

Which is why Oda pushing more on Kidd and Law along the possibility of all Supernova Captains (No Killer and Zoro) to face Kaido from how things are looking. Thinking it be an another version of Supernovas vs Bullet from the movie, but different manner to it.

Idk, Zoro has paneled alongside Kidd several times. I don't think there's a particular push either way. What I do want is Kidd/Law getting shine, which is often difficult with Luffy around. Luffy is definitely getting the major feats here, compared to any captain/supernova.

if it requires the supernova effort to take down kaido, then i don't know how the alliance would beat down big mom, who is in the same level as kaido.
It's not like big mom is just going to wait for them to finish their fight.

The way BM gets treated who knows. Or, supernovas vs emperors.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Idk, Zoro has paneled alongside Kidd several times. I don't think there's a particular push either way. What I do want is Kidd/Law getting shine, which is often difficult with Luffy around. Luffy is definitely getting the major feats here, compared to any captain/supernova.



The way BM gets treated who knows. Or, supernovas vs emperors.

supernova vs emperors are pretty interesting tbh

law kidd luffy zoro vs big mom and kaido

 

[King Moe]

Idk, Zoro has paneled alongside Kidd several times. I don't think there's a particular push either way. What I do want is Kidd/Law getting shine, which is often difficult with Luffy around. Luffy is definitely getting the major feats here, compared to any captain/supernova.



The way BM gets treated who knows. Or, supernovas vs emperors.

Not really much to go on being panel with someone though as same with Killer, but don't think he fight for Kidd's battles for him along with Luffy and Law are like WG Trio who have more business with Kaido overall and doubt their crew intervene with their respective captain's personal fight as even Zoro never face with Bullet in movie, so don't think that changing in fighting for Luffy's personal battles like that.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

as even Zoro never face with Bullet in movie

frankly it's not a good idea to make arguments based on movie

 

[King Moe]

So can we get back on topic of Luffy's potential and new forms and not a 'certain character'?

What you guys imagine new power to be and do you think Luffy will unlock Awakening during the fight to boost his power more?

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

So can we get back on topic of Luffy's potential and new forms and not a 'certain character'?

I and the other guys here already got back on topic several posts ago.

do you think Luffy will unlock Awakening during the fight to boost his power more?

Depends on how good his advanced CoA makes him against kaido

 

[King Moe]

I and the other guys here already got back on topic several posts ago.


Depends on how good his advanced CoA makes him against kaido

Nah you didn't. Please don't go off topic again and talk about Luffy on his abilities and skills. Now let's end this side of talk here and get back on things with this sentence.

His Adv. COA looks to be next level especially using new G4 form to help with that out. I could see Awakening coming out to boost more power of his blows from both outside and inside together.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Nah you didn't. Please don't go off topic again and talk about Luffy on his abilities and skills. Now let's end this side of talk here and get back on things with this sentence.

His Adv. COA looks to be next level especially using new G4 form to help with that out. I could see Awakening coming out to boost more power of his blows from both outside and inside together.

yes i did, as can be seen on post #64 here.
Anyway, it depends on how the fight vs kaido will fare. Will it be 1v1, 2v1 (luffy zoro vs kaido), supernova vs yonkous, or any other match up
I would say awakening comes only if it's 1v1.

 

[King Moe]

Luffy, Kidd, Law, Drake, Hawkins, and Apoo: Supernova Captains (No subordinates) would be amazing to see, but wondering if Urouge, Bonney, and Bege will get involve or just Captains who are there to be involve as we know it be a lot of team up given Scabbards are there fighting Kaido and already cut him in, so presume will probably take team effort to beat him while Luffy being major one to harm and defeat him the most.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Luffy, Kidd, Law, Drake, Hawkins, and Apoo: Supernova Captains (No subordinates) would be amazing to see, but wondering if Urouge, Bonney, and Bege will get involve or just Captains who are there to be involve as we know it be a lot of team up given Scabbards are there fighting Kaido and already cut him in, so presume will probably take team effort to beat him while Luffy being major one to harm and defeat him the most.

why would hawkins and apoo be on luffy's side? Literally last chapter had hawkins confirming he won't change side.
Drake has been foreshadowed to be ally since his SWORD reveal, same cannot be said to hawkins and apoo.

Luffy zoro vs kaido would be amazing to see
Kidd Law vs Big mom

 

[Nie Li]

why would hawkins and apoo be on luffy's side? Literally last chapter had hawkins confirming he won't change side.
Drake has been foreshadowed to be ally since his SWORD reveal, same cannot be said to hawkins and apoo.

Luffy zoro vs kaido would be amazing to see
Kidd Law vs Big mom

Apoo already betrayed Kid and Hawkins back in the day and sold them to Kaido. Even if the guy wanted to switch sides, I'd say that Kid wouldn't allow him to and try to kill him regardless.

 

[kkck]

why would hawkins and apoo be on luffy's side? Literally last chapter had hawkins confirming he won't change side.
Drake has been foreshadowed to be ally since his SWORD reveal, same cannot be said to hawkins and apoo.

Luffy zoro vs kaido would be amazing to see
Kidd Law vs Big mom

I think they simply haven't switched sides "yet". Both of them are supernovas with their own ambitions and beyond questionable loyalties. As opportunistic weasels the safest bet is that they will betray kaido when it suits them. This early in the war its not strange that they don't see luffy as having a chance. Even with drake the situation is not exactly rosy. From his perspective he simply traded a 110% chance of death against queen and whos whos against a 1% chance of survival. I wouldn't even put it past drake, at this point, to actually just bail on the whole alliance with luffy if he gets the opportunity.

 

[King Moe]

why would hawkins and apoo be on luffy's side? Literally last chapter had hawkins confirming he won't change side.
Drake has been foreshadowed to be ally since his SWORD reveal, same cannot be said to hawkins and apoo.

Luffy zoro vs kaido would be amazing to see
Kidd Law vs Big mom

Zoro won't be involve in the fight. Stop forcing it in when Kidd and Law are more above him and stronger to face Kaido over him. Zoro will be facing his own issues with Orochi, T6H, Smoothie, or Queen, but not facing Kaido. Also guy betray to save his skin before, so why wouldn't he try betraying to save himself from losing battle when there is chance to defeat Kaido, so Idk what you mean there. Also Hawkins is joining Law right now on upcoming fight as why your saying he won't change sides? Don't make sense there.