\m/ THE METAL THREAD!!! \m/

[Arrogance]

Yeah, agree...

But you know, when you see a band like Metallica playing this song

Disposable Heroes - 1985
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYcH466Wiw

And then, almost 25 years later playing the same song like this!!

Disposable Heroes - 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mcthZSZDw4

There is not doubt in my mind, Metallica is the best Fucking Rock Band in the World

I cant remenber a band that could play like that after almost 30 years.. Maybe only AC/DC and Iron Maiden are in that level..

I cant imagine any of this nu-metal bands doing the same thing...

Yea I agree with you. When I saw Metallica myself all I could say was holy crap these guys still have it this many years later.

My only other thing to add to your list would be Heaven And Hell (Black Sabbath) because Dio still had it last year when I saw him. Heaven And Hell sounded even better now that they were all older. They and Dio are gonna be missed, they honestly still had at least ten years worth of talent left in them all but then Dio passed .

 

[Hystzen]

it i just never got into them..

i try to listen to them but find them bit repetative n dull...music or vocals dont have the kick i expect..plus sometimes find them bit arrogante the way the talk about other bands..

a example is a vid someone put on youtube of them looking at setlist in leeds n looking what band is on stage they see it Muse and they just go well they got alot of shit songs...then next part of vid they talking to Matt B from muse all friendly.

i admit i have the S&M album it different but just find them dull.

not trying insult people or anything just i dont see why alot of people espically all these young kids thinking metallica are gods n all..i agree they influecne nearly every band there is now ...

 

[BBB Banana]

I agree that Metallica are a great band specially when you take in acount that they've been on the road almost non stop for decades. Hetfield still has a great voice live.

I don't know all of metallica songs because I don't have all their albums but I liked every song from every album I have and songs my friends showed me.

I don't think Metallica are Arrongant maybe a bit but if you look at it every one of the big 4 of trash Metal are a bit arrogant.

Well maybe a lot if we are talking about Mustaine

 

[thornofcarrion]

i prob gona get abuse or kidnapped then raped for saying this but....

i find metallica overrated...i dont understand the big fuss over them...

it i just never got into them..

i try to listen to them but find them bit repetative n dull...music or vocals dont have the kick i expect..plus sometimes find them bit arrogante the way the talk about other bands..

a example is a vid someone put on youtube of them looking at setlist in leeds n looking what band is on stage they see it Muse and they just go well they got alot of shit songs...then next part of vid they talking to Matt B from muse all friendly.

i admit i have the S&M album it different but just find them dull.

not trying insult people or anything just i dont see why alot of people espically all these young kids thinking metallica are gods n all..i agree they influecne nearly every band there is now ...

I'll agree the recent Metallica is not great at all. But their earlier stuff like:

• Kill 'Em All
• Ride the Lightning
• Master of Puppets
• …And Justice for All
• Metallica

was great. It was after 1994 they started to experiment and tried to have different sound and all that stuff, which became boring and they lost their originality. The reason you may find them boring and repetitive is mainly because Metal/Rock changed so much after late 1990s and early 2000s. Its not what I grew up listening to, the sound is more alternative, grunge, and industrial then it ever used to be. And one of the reason I listen to Doom and Black Metal, as they are keeping their originality.

 

[Arrogance]

I actually like their newer stuff as well. I liked Death Magnetic as an album because compared to St. Anger it was actually returning to their routes a little bit more but then also went in a new direction. The point I see with them is that they just don't want to keep putting out the same thing every time so they tried different things for their newer albums. St. Anger definitely wasn't their best album bit I even find songs on their that I actually enjoy. As a whole I love Metallica, I may not listen to them every few seconds nor do I actually want to because there are so many other bands that I love but if a Metallica song comes on the radio (and as long as its not Enter Sandman) then I'm gonna listen to it and love it.

 

[DanielKnoT]

I have read many negative comments in many forums and on youtube about Metallica, but I never saw that they were Arrogant, Repetitive, and Boring

You wanna know who really is Arrogant? Guns and Roses, for example..
Repetitive? Slayer, Anthrax just to name a few
Boring? Megadeth, Pantera... The same music over and over again for many years..

I have seem them 3 times in this World Tour and they just kick ass..

Changing the subject.. Have you guys read the recent article from Rhythm Magazine "The 20 greatest drummers of the last 25 years".. Who do you think is the #1?? Mike Portnoy? - Fail!!.... Neil Peart? - Fail!!...

Check it out.. http://www.musicradar.com/rhythm/greatest-drummer-of-the-last-25-years-the-results-are-in-270334/20#content

 

[BBB Banana]

Just a correction the one who's arrogant is Axl Rose not the rest of the band wether is the old or the new one. (well I like him that way he was never suposed to be a nice guy from the begining his songs were honest about his person)

And Megadeth are not boring but I would put Mustain in the arrogant class

Wasn't the 1# drumers in that magazine Joey Jordison from Rob Zombie and Slipknot?

 

[Arrogance]

So later today I'm heading out to a Creed and Skillet concert. Now Creed is mostly hard rock however they have a few songs that border on metal in the sense of their heaviness. Skillet on the other hand bounces from Hard Rock to Alternative Metal very often and I really love them for that style. Both bands also come under Christian Rock/Metal so that definitely is a plus in my book. Looking forward to going and I'm hoping it doesn't rain because its in an outdoor stadium .

For those who don't know the bands here are some links

One of Creed's heaviest and most metalesque songs "Bullets"

One of my favorite Skillet Songs - "Collide". Its very powerful in terms of vocals and I love the high points of it.

Again these are hard rock bands that border on alternative metal so some of you really heavy guys might not enjoy them as much but I thought I'd drop them off anyway. Plus I'm too excited for the concert not to talk about these bands .

 

[BBB Banana]

I enjoy Creed I'm more towards Hard Rock than Metal. But they are brothers and sometimes the bands jump from one side to another.

I listen to metal when I want to hear those heavy rythims and listen to Hard Rock when I want those cool Guitar solos.

 

[Arrogance]

The concert was amazing! Skillet was probably one of the best opening bands I've ever seen. They had a pretty extensive stage set up for just being an opening band. I think parts of it were even better than Creeds main stage. They had moving platforms, smoke, and lights. What was sweet about the platforms was that the violinist and cheloist would stand on them and play while they would move up and down. Overall it was a pretty sick set up . Anywho the concert was in an outside stadium/theater that was actually on the water. It was raining and the water level was rising around the theater to the point where the first few sections actually got flooded. Overall it was pretty epic.

As usual I bring back the gift of videos!!! So far I only have two skillet up and I plan on putting a creed up at some point .

Awake and Alive - Skillet

Rebirthing - Skillet

 

[BBB Banana]

Guys can anyone sugest any song with kickass guitar riffs and solo?

 

[Paper]

It really depends on what you want...

All-Star-Shred-fest: Hear n' Aid- We're Stars (collaboration effort lead by Dio)
My Guitar wants to Kill Your Mama- G3: Satriani, Vai, Johnson (Frank Zappa cover)
Acoustic Tapping: Air Tap! - Erik Mongrain
Shred Fest: X-Ray Eyes- Cacophony (Marty Friedman and Jason Becker)
Curse of the Castle Dragon- Paul gilbert
Neo-Classical shredding- Playing with fire- Yngwie Malmsteen
Viking Kong- Racer X
Tapping: Eruption (live circa-198x)- Eddie Van Halen/ Van Halen
Prog shredding: The Glass Prison- Dream Theater
Spirit of Radio- Rush
Bass Shredding: Shy Boy- Talas/ Billy Sheehan
Beat It- Victor Wooten, Marcus Miller, and Stanley Clarke (Michael Jackson cover)
Power metal shredding: Chasing the Dragon- DreamEvil
Death Metal shredding: Nemesis- Arch Enemy
Follow the Reaper- Children of Bodom
Country/chicken picking- Farm Fiddlin'- Zakk Wylde
Blues-rock: Manhattan- Eric Johnson
Classic shredding: Muffin Man- Frank Zappa
The Boys are Back in Town- Thin Lizzy

So many more...

 

[BBB Banana]

Well I just want something new that I don't know to play so that will do it. I'll go trough the list now.

 

[Arrogance]

Lately I've been teetering between Disturbed's new album Asylum and the band Flyleaf.

Asylum overall is a really amazing album, its heavy and its got everything good in it that Disturbed has always brought to the table. Some of my favorite songs would be Asylum, Crucified, Another Way To Die, My Child, and more but I don't want to just list the whole album .

Flyleaf on the other hand is a bit more in the rock direction but their female singer does scream on occasion and that is pretty sick. Plus they have some pretty good christian messages in a few of their songs and thats always a plus when it comes to me

 

[BBB Banana]

Latelly I've seen many metalhead that are christian and that spread the christian message in their songs and still the church still has many issues with metal only because metal artists wear black and look a bit different than usual.

 

[Arrogance]

Latelly I've seen many metalhead that are christian and that spread the christian message in their songs and still the church still has many issues with metal only because metal artists wear black and look a bit different than usual.

It depends on what bands. Many metal bands are not Christian obviously and promote things that don't reflect Christian Catholic ideals. So its just that they are very weary when entering that territory. Metal and as a cultural scene isn't christian so its understandable for them to be a bit at odds but I do agree with you and what your saying. In terms of the music and what it is in itself beside the culture around metal, there are many bands that are acceptable and even produce christian lyrics.

 

[Hystzen]

guitar solos and no mention of the band i saw live on saturday....

ok

Muse- Hysteria
Muse- Stockholm Syndrom recorded saturday guy must been next to me

also check out Plug In Baby, Newborn (my fav)..Muse are all bout guitar riffs

i seen flyleaf live..it was ment to be Atreyu but the time list changed n didnt tell everyone....wasent really feeling them

 

[Paper]

It's great to try and get new techniques, but as Billy Sheehan puts it in this video, it's not really about the technique, but the desire to play music that makes a musician better at what he/she does.

 

[Arrogance]

guitar solos and no mention of the band i saw live on saturday....

ok

Muse- Hysteria
Muse- Stockholm Syndrom recorded saturday guy must been next to me

also check out Plug In Baby, Newborn (my fav)..Muse are all bout guitar riffs

i seen flyleaf live..it was ment to be Atreyu but the time list changed n didnt tell everyone....wasent really feeling them

Wait so did you see muse on Saturday??? I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not?

Yes Muse, although they aren't necessarily heavy, they do have some pretty good guitar solos from time to time. I like them for that and for the uniqueness of many of their songs .

Yea, Flyleaf is a new interest to me. I've always known about them but I guess once I found out she screamed at times I finally decided to make a move on them and now I actually like them quite a bit. I dunno, I've always liked Female vocalists especially in metal bands and rock bands that are on the heavier side. They always add a nice touch to things. I also love songs with Male and Female vocals because the contrast of the two are usually awesome .

 

[BBB Banana]

@ The Paperman Wow that guy is a kcikass player O.o and he told a lot of truths your technique will catch up with you eventually and allow you to reach your creational potential.