Fantasy Macro runs the gauntlet

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Only reason I say Erza is since we’ve seen it used on her.

That's because Sayla used it.
Sayla >> Mira in Tartarus arc, she basically one shotted her Sitri form when she got serious. It's possible that Sayla > Erza in magic (curse) power, so it worked on Erza as well.

Current Mirajane (Sayla) << current Erza. So it won't work on Erza

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Stops at 4 or 3

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Original Sayla stops at 2

 

[Kiki]

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[IamtherealMirajane]

I really dont get why Macro is ineffective againts Erza when Erza was not able to resist against Bind Snake and that spell was from 500 chapters ago lol.

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Back in Tartaros? Big difference between now and then.

So did Erza resist from Bind Snake? A spell from 500 chapters ago? Lol.

 

[Ramen]

So did Erza resist from Bind Snake? A spell from 500 chapters ago

But a spell that has updated feats proving that it still works? Yea. That one

Not some outdated curse that hasn't been relevant since Tartaros

 

[Aurelius]

@Kiki Has there been any updates on when you're starting the most intelligent ranking thread?

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@Axiomus play next mafia game, you've been tagged

 

[Axiomus]

I really dont get why Macro is ineffective againts Erza when Erza was not able to resist against Bind Snake and that spell was from 500 chapters ago lol.

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So did Erza resist from Bind Snake? A spell from 500 chapters ago? Lol.

The thing is, when Jellal bind snaked Erza she had her back turned to him. When he used it back in tower of heaven, she wasn't even attempting to fight him. So nobody seriously makes the argument that Jellal can oneshot opponents on Erza's level with zero difficulty using bind snake.

Really, much of the same can be said about macro. When Seilah used it against Erza back in Tartaros, it was against Erza when she had her back turned and was occupied with fighting someone else. With macro, you have people seriously arguing that it will allow Mirajane to defeat characters far stronger than her. This is despite the fact that Mirajane has had several fights macro would have been very helpful, and even fights where she lost.

I happen to believe macro has limits, and Mirajane knows these limits. That's why it hasn't been a factor in any of her recent fights against anyone stronger than Juliet and Heine.

 

[Mirage]

I really dont get why Macro is ineffective againts Erza when Erza was not able to resist against Bind Snake and that spell was from 500 chapters ago lol.

Cuz there's something called NLF. It's something you guys don't seem to understand for some reason. Jellal was stronger than Erza at the time, of course his attacks would work.

And even if you wanna conveniently ignore NLF, macro has no decent feats yet you guys keep insisting it can affect all of these characters who are a great deal above Mira.

It's literally not reasonable and makes 0 sense.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Cuz there's something called NLF. It's something you guys don't seem to understand for some reason. Jellal was stronger than Erza at the time, of course his attacks would work.

And even if you wanna conveniently ignore NLF, macro has no decent feats yet you guys keep insisting it can affect all of these characters who are a great deal above Mira.

It's literally not reasonable and makes 0 sense.

And you also keep ignoring what was stated in the manga that once you are under the control of macro then the user can remotely control you anytime unless Erza shown shes capable to resist to macro then good.

 

[Ramen]

And you also keep ignoring what was stated in the manga that once you are under the control of macro then the user can remotely control you anytime unless Erza shown shes capable to resist to macro then good.

I think her being tiers above Mira is enough.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

But a spell that has updated feats proving that it still works? Yea. That one

Not some outdated curse that hasn't been relevant since Tartaros

And why it would not work?? Lol... even the outdated spell still works on Erza.

 

[Ramen]

And why it would not work?? Lol... even the outdated spell still works on Erza.

It isn't outdated. Jellal used it lmao.

Mira hasn't.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

I think her being tiers above Mira is enough.

Nahh... i still believe that tartaros Erza is still above Seilah it work on her and Minerva w/o even putting an effort Lol... only demon takeover user is immune so far.

 

[Ramen]

Nahh... i still believe that tartaros Erza is still above Seilah it work on her and Minerva w/o even putting an effort Lol... only demon takeover user is immune so far.

Not tiers though. They were very close at that time which makes sense. Plus, Erza wasn't even paying attention to Seilah which Ax already explained.

 

[Mirage]

And you also keep ignoring what was stated in the manga that once you are under the control of macro then the user can remotely control you anytime unless Erza shown shes capable to resist to macro then good.

Yeah and that shit falls under NLF, and it'll keep being NLF until Mira shows she can macro Laxus tiers.

There are certain rules you follow in battle threads. You can't just say things like "lol well Mira can macro anyone GG".

Not how it works bro.

 

[Ramen]

@IamtherealMirajane Genuine question for you bro, do you think Macro works on Laxus or Gildarts?

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Not tiers though. They were very close at that time which makes sense. Plus, Erza wasn't even paying attention to Seilah which Ax already explained.

Where did tier comes from???? Is it from Mashima or just made by you lol?

 

[Ramen]

Where did tier comes from???? Is it from Mashima or just made by you lol?

It makes sense that someone who's tiers above someone else can overpower them.

Do you think macro is gonna work on anyone? No.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

@IamtherealMirajane Genuine question for you bro, do you think Macro works on Laxus or Gildarts?
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Just like how Mest memory manipulation works on Brandish. Then i would say yes.

 

[Ramen]

@IamtherealMirajane Genuine question for you bro, do you think Macro works on Laxus or Gildarts?

Just like how Mest memory manipulation works on Brandish. Then i would say yes.
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@IamtherealMirajane Ok so you think Mira is the strongest FT mage. Right?

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

It makes sense that someone who's tiers above someone else can overpower them.

Do you think macro is gonna work on anyone? No.

If Erza is above tier than Kyria. Then why kyria's hypnosis work on her. You can answer that.