Fantasy Macro runs the gauntlet

[Ramen]

If Erza is above tier than Kyria. Then why kyria's hypnosis work on her. You can answer that.

Because Erza wasn't using her strongest stuff and wasn't expecting it. The minute Erza got serious she was stomping Kyria

Even then, she overpowered her hax anyways. So did Laxus.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Just like how Mest memory manipulation works on Brandish. Then i would say yes.

@IamtherealMirajane Ok so you think Mira is the strongest FT mage. Right?
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Did i say shes the strongest?

 

[Ramen]

@IamtherealMirajane Ok so you think Mira is the strongest FT mage. Right?

Did i say shes the strongest?
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Yes you did. If Mira's Macro would allow her to work on Erza/Laxus/Gildarts then she can't lose.

So you think shes above everyone in the guild.

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Erza overpowers Macro, I'm ending off with that .

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Because Erza wasn't using her strongest stuff and wasn't expecting it. The minute Erza got serious she was stomping Kyria

Even then, she overpowered her hax anyways. So did Laxus.

Nope you need to know what is the weakness of a spell. It just Erza has 1 eye and Laxus thinks he is not that strong. Lol.

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Did i say shes the strongest?

Yes you did. If Mira's Macro would allow her to work on Erza/Laxus/Gildarts then she can't lose.

So you think shes above everyone in the guild.

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Erza overpowers Macro, I'm ending off with that .
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And lastly, why Mira did not use her macro because if she will use it for every fight then she becomes a 1 trick pony lol.

 

[Axiomus]

Memory manipulation worked on Brandish because she wasn't even suspecting anything. I highly doubt Mest could defeat Brandish if they were fighting.
Kyria's hypnosis has feats of working on Alvarez-arc Erza level opponents. It would have worked on Laxus too, if he didn't think of himself as weak. Macro doesn't. You have to prove that macro is as effective as Kyria's hypnosis on people like Erza and Laxus. It's not just a given.

The only time we've seen macro in action since the timeskip is when Mirajane used it on the Alvarez troops, and she didn't even take out as many troops as someone like Natsu can do with a regular punch. And no, Wall being able to negate magic is not an excuse. Wall doesn't have a barrier that passively negates magic that targets him, much less extended protection for his troops. Wall had to actively use particle canceller to negate stuff like Laxus' runes.

It would be one thing if Mirajane was winning all her fights, or effortlessly beating her opponents. But she's not. She's using up all of her magic power with Alegria just to beat Juliet and Heine. Macro wasn't a factor in any of her fights this arc. She was heavily injured by Skullion, and defeated by Gray. The bottom line is if Hiro Mashima made Erza and Mirajane fight, and someone pointed a gun to your children's head to predict the results, would your first answer be "macro oneshots"?

I touched upon this subject briefly on other threads: What about Gemini's ability to turn people into fish. If you don't believe there are any limits on this magic, and that this would work on resisting opponents, then what is stopping Lucy from beating everyone in the guild? In fact, what was stopping Gemini from doing this to Mirajane in their most recent fight? What is stopping us from from saying Gemini would have beaten Mirajane and Elfman had the dragon eaters not interfered?

 

[Zelefomavis]

Nope you need to know what is the weakness of a spell. It just Erza has 1 eye and Laxus thinks he is not that strong. Lol.

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Yes you did. If Mira's Macro would allow her to work on Erza/Laxus/Gildarts then she can't lose.

So you think shes above everyone in the guild.

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Erza overpowers Macro, I'm ending off with that .

And lastly, why Mira did not use her macro because if she will use it for every fight then she becomes a 1 trick pony lol.

So she would rather lose a fight/spend all her magic on almost randos during an all put war where people she loves are at risk than become à one-trick pony. Ok. Ok Ok Ok Ok.
Guess that makes her a shallow bitch if anything.

 

[Aurelius]

One trick pony, what does that even mean, lol. Like 95% of the characters are one trick ponies

 

[Ramen]

And lastly, why Mira did not use her macro because if she will use it for every fight then she becomes a 1 trick pony lol.

So she would rather lose a fight/spend all her magic on almost randos during an all put war where people she loves are at risk than become à one-trick pony. Ok. Ok Ok Ok Ok.
Guess that makes her a shallow bitch if anything.
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@Zelefomavis This guy

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Memory manipulation worked on Brandish because she wasn't even suspecting anything. I highly doubt Mest could defeat Brandish if they were fighting.
Kyria's hypnosis has feats of working on Alvarez-arc Erza level opponents. It would have worked on Laxus too, if he didn't think of himself as weak. Macro doesn't. You have to prove that macro is as effective as Kyria's hypnosis on people like Erza and Laxus. It's not just a given.

The only time we've seen macro in action since the timeskip is when Mirajane used it on the Alvarez troops, and she didn't even take out as many troops as someone like Natsu can do with a regular punch. And no, Wall being able to negate magic is not an excuse. Wall doesn't have a barrier that passively negates magic that targets him, much less extended protection for his troops. Wall had to actively use particle canceller to negate stuff like Laxus' runes.

It would be one thing if Mirajane was winning all her fights, or effortlessly beating her opponents. But she's not. She's using up all of her magic power with Alegria just to beat Juliet and Heine. Macro wasn't a factor in any of her fights this arc. She was heavily injured by Skullion, and defeated by Gray. The bottom line is if Hiro Mashima made Erza and Mirajane fight, and someone pointed a gun to your children's head to predict the results, would your first answer be "macro oneshots"?

But then she would be a one trick pony.

 

[Aurelius]

It would be one thing if Mirajane was winning all her fights, or effortlessly beating her opponents. But she's not. She's using up all of her magic power with Alegria just to beat Juliet and Heine. Macro wasn't a factor in any of her fights this arc. She was heavily injured by Skullion, and defeated by Gray. The bottom line is if Hiro Mashima made Erza and Mirajane fight, and someone pointed a gun to your children's head to predict the results, would your first answer be "macro oneshots"?

I am wheezing. Ax out here evolving

 

[Jko]

1. Hiro already stated authors rather go for a punch out rather than use hax bcs that's what their audience get more hype for.

2. Mira has several forms above BSS which could have handle H/J.

3. Hiro wanted to nerf her so she didn't put up a fight against Irene.

Hax > PL. This isn't DBZ where you get stronger means you can "resist" it lol.

 

[Axiomus]

One trick pony, what does that even mean, lol. Like 95% of the characters are one trick ponies

Yeah, pretty much every one of Natsu's fights ends in demolition fist. His next fight will probably end in one too. Mirajane is becoming a one trick pony anyways, with how often she just fights in nothing but Satan Soul. Just a less effective one.

 

[Mirage]

She stops at 5 and that's generous considering how macro has shit tier feats.

She for sure can't macro Skulliboi.

 

[Ebony Maw]

Stops at J/H. She wanted to beat them quickly and brought out Alegria. Macro would have been the perfect tool for a quick victory and yet she passed it up for Alegria. This should logically mean Macro can't affect J/H-tier opponents. We even saw it outright fail on fodder during Alvarez and she hasn't used it since, despite having no reason not to use it.

Macro is an outdated Curse until it gets new feats IMO.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

So she would rather lose a fight/spend all her magic on almost randos during an all put war where people she loves are at risk than become à one-trick pony. Ok. Ok Ok Ok Ok.
Guess that makes her a shallow bitch if anything.

Imagine if Mira would only show macro from time to time lol. There would be no fights at all.

I doubt if Alegria will debut at all.

Or if Satan soul will make an appearance again.

This is manga after all where story and fight really matter lol.

Just imagine if Mira will only use this.
Against Jacob, Against J &H , against Skullion.

It would be a waste panel lol.

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Yeah, pretty much every one of Natsu's fights ends in demolition fist. His next fight will probably end in one too. Mirajane is becoming a one trick pony anyways, with how often she just fights in nothing but Satan Soul. Just a less effective one.

Oh really?? So you are comparing

Macro to

Dragon's roar
Dragon's claw
Dragon iron fist
Fire Dragon' wing attack
Fire Dragon crushing fang
Crimson lotus
Crimon lotus explosing flame blade
Lighting fire dragon mode
Crimson lotus lightning exploding mode
Fire dragon king mode
Fd Kings roar
Fdk Purgatory
Fire dragon kings brilliant flame

Imagine Mira using macro against J & H

Mira: Go to Sleep

End of fight

Against Jacob

Mira: Go to sleep

End of fight

Against Skullion and Madmole

Mira: Go to sleep.

Lol.

 

[Ramen]

Dragon's roar
Dragon's claw
Dragon iron fist
Fire Dragon' wing attack
Fire Dragon crushing fang
Crimson lotus
Crimon lotus explosing flame blade
Lighting fire dragon mode
Crimson lotus lightning exploding mode
Fire dragon king mode
Fd Kings roar
Fdk Purgatory
Fire dragon kings brilliant flame

He only ends fights with like two of those.

 

[Vis]

Imagine Mira using macro against J & H

Mira: Go to Sleep

End of fight

Against Jacob

Mira: Go to sleep

End of fight

Against Skullion and Madmole

Mira: Go to sleep.

Lol.

You don't think there's any reason why she doesn't simply do this?

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

You don't think there's any reason why she doesn't simply do this?

Because her character. Lol.
Remember she has a demon power. It would be a waste of panel every time she fight if she would ask her opponent to sleep?

Where is the fight?
Can she attract readers just doing that?

Now compare it to when shes fighting with satan soul, with sitri, with Alegria.
With Halphas

How do you think the readers would react.

 

[Ramen]

Because her character. Lol.
Remember she has a demon power. It would be a waste of panel every time she fight if she would ask her opponent to sleep?

Where is the fight?
Can she attract readers just doing that?

So all of a sudden she's going to put Erza to sleep?

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

So all of a sudden she's going to put Erza to sleep?

Actually if they would fight I doubt Mashima will use Macro against Erza. Why?
Because there is so much hype between their fight and was never settled even fans are fighting on it.

Will it work? Yes. Just like how snake binding still works on Erza.

But readers would rather want to see an epic battle of Alegria vs Nakagami. Because there is so much hype on it. Lol.

Even Mashima is undecided who is stronger than Erza and Mira. Because he rather wants to see the fans fighting on it.

And thats why Mira is still hype even in this arc.

As the strongest beside laxus- Natsu

How Cana mocks Gray for struggling to a beat up - opponent lol.

 

[Ramen]

Actually if they would fight I doubt Mashima will use Macro against Erza. Why?
Because there is so much hype between their fight and was never settled even fans are fighting on it.

Will it work? Yes. Just like how snake binding still works on Erza.

But readers would rather want to see an epic battle of Alegria vs Nakagami. Because there is so much hype on it. Lol.

Even Mashima is undecided who is stronger than Erza and Mira. Because he rather wants to see the fans fighting on it.

There is no hype for their fight. They aren't rivals.

It won't work because it has not shown the capability of working on someone tiers above the user.

Mashima knows Erza is stronger lmao. That's why she has better feats than Mira. There is no debate on who's stronger. Just some people who don't want to see their precious Mira lose lol.

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As the strongest beside laxus- Natsu

She is nowhere near Laxus.