I think the last is between James/Tatsu as I said earlier. Hopefully not tunneling but yeah. And if you’re so against the mentee lynch (which we’re not even sure that’s what Gaj is) then you’d have to make a strong enough case. I did get incriminating result on Gaj so for me that feels safe
And if you’re so against the mentee lynch (which we’re not even sure that’s what Gaj is) then you’d have to make a strong enough case. I did get incriminating result on Gaj so for me that feels safe
I'M A GHOST AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AVENGE ME TOWNIES I WAS MURDERERED. I USED BODYGUARD ON TATSUMAKI. AVENGE MEEEEE TOWNIES I THINK YOU SHOULD FOLLOW HOLT FOR THIS DAY PHASE, THERE IS A MAFIA IN SAKURA AND TATAS, THERE MIGHT BE A HEALTHY TOWNIE ON EACH TEAM, MAFIA AND TOWNIE THINK ABOUT IT TOWNIES, ALSO DO WE BELIEVE TOWNIES HAVE BOTH RESTLESS SPIRIT AND NOBLE AND TWO HEALTHY TOWNIES? SEEMS STRANGE BUT FOR NOW IT'S BEST TO KEELL GAJEEL, HE IS NOT TOWNIE. Notice he didn't mention anything to do with his role today.
vote kill gajeel
Remember to use my corpse to bodyguard a townie brandish, you should have two spice left. Also, night 2 GB was blocked so that means there are other reasons kill failed, this might indicate tatsumaki might be legit doctor or there is a poisoner. It's possible the mentor failed to recruit night 1, keep that in mind. It's also possible mafia used poisoner night 2 and then killed night 3 so we got 2 kills one night with one killing party(this will naturally confirm itself so dont worry). They killed me because they knew I had aigooo bodyguard so I could use it for 6 nights compared to the doctor. I'm assuming. That's it upupupupu Monokuma is out.
They killed me because they knew I had aigooo bodyguard so I could use it for 6 nights compared to the doctor. I'm assuming. That's it upupupupu Monokuma is out.
This is wrong, if you protected tatsu you died because tatsu was targeted with a kill.
And you could have redirected the poison yesterday when you protected Holt?
A player being targeted by Poisoner - If it‘s the night of being poisoned, Bodyguard is poisoned instead. If it‘s the night of dying to poison, the player dies while Bodyguard lives
I managed to get myself some free time. I’m done with mafia so let me say my perspective.
First, I didn’t read all the posts today as time is limited, but I saw you saying I’m giving up Holt. I just don’t have a schedule compatible with the mafia game that’s all. Check all of my posts during weekdays and you will see a correlation between all of them. It’s always when people are less active. You must already know anyway, because I don’t believe you’re town (mr lied about a result already if we listen to Brandish). I’m inclined to believe that you’re using that to your advantage. I’m easily framable, and I don’t have the opportunity to defend myself with the time I have.
Stalling your time by one day to make sure your teammate or yourself if you’re alone can increase your odds at winning is certainly a good plan so it’s understandable, but at the cost of someone who was willing to help you? Not cool.
One thing I don’t get is why James so eagerly agreed with Holt’s result. How can one believe that the other one is town is not logical. Biggest question being why would one of them have detective as an omo while the other one has it as an aigoo.
James at least didn’t lie about a result, so I believe that you’re the mafia between the two.
Therefore !votekill Holt.
I will be here during the final phase if as I’ve said I don’t have 8 votes on me when I come back. So I will still have my votelock.
Time’s out. I’ll see if I can find some more time later on before the final hours.
This is wrong, if you protected tatsu you died because tatsu was targeted with a kill.
And you could have redirected the poison yesterday when you protected Holt?
They could‘ve singled him out too, but yeah most likely either the Tatsu guard or the Holt guard tanking the poison, nice catch I didn‘t think of that.
Trolling mafia with M. Doc like town was with Mason clowns, I wonder if that‘s it.
I'M A GHOST AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH AVENGE ME TOWNIES I WAS MURDERERED. I USED BODYGUARD ON TATSUMAKI. AVENGE MEEEEE TOWNIES I THINK YOU SHOULD FOLLOW HOLT FOR THIS DAY PHASE, THERE IS A MAFIA IN SAKURA AND TATAS, THERE MIGHT BE A HEALTHY TOWNIE ON EACH TEAM, MAFIA AND TOWNIE THINK ABOUT IT TOWNIES, ALSO DO WE BELIEVE TOWNIES HAVE BOTH RESTLESS SPIRIT AND NOBLE AND TWO HEALTHY TOWNIES? SEEMS STRANGE BUT FOR NOW IT'S BEST TO KEELL GAJEEL, HE IS NOT TOWNIE. Notice he didn't mention anything to do with his role today.
vote kill gajeel
Remember to use my corpse to bodyguard a townie brandish, you should have two spice left. Also, night 2 GB was blocked so that means there are other reasons kill failed, this might indicate tatsumaki might be legit doctor or there is a poisoner. It's possible the mentor failed to recruit night 1, keep that in mind. It's also possible mafia used poisoner night 2 and then killed night 3 so we got 2 kills one night with one killing party(this will naturally confirm itself so dont worry). They killed me because they knew I had aigooo bodyguard so I could use it for 6 nights compared to the doctor. I'm assuming. That's it upupupupu Monokuma is out.
you making me mafia makes me glad you died ))
but you're right on one thing. i doubt both healthy are town, and i doubt there are 2 healthy even more. But me being the D1 claim (well d2 but massive hints from the start of D1) should clear up that I was 100% comfortable with claiming because I'm not lying. Am green, go back to eternal slumber RIP.
Also don't think they targeted you directly cuz regardless you'd die after 1 use so it's the same.
BUT I do think there's something there.
Tatsu claimed doc, we all said to protect her with BG if sam flipped mafia. What if, they targeted DD directly to fake mafia targeting tatsu to confirm her more. Even if they didn't know he's restless spirit, him dying the night we tell him to protect tatsu would have been enough to reinforce her doc claim.
Him being restless spirit and actually telling us makes it even more convenient to them xD.
This is wrong, if you protected tatsu you died because tatsu was targeted with a kill.
And you could have redirected the poison yesterday when you protected Holt?
Poisoner is right now the most likely case.
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Let say, Gaajel dies something mafia related and not TP related.
Doctor protect Detective
Detective investigate Noble
Necro does something extra.
Noble is scum, lynch the noble.
Noble isn't scum, lynch the second detective?
so james x holt lovers? tatsu scum and gaj traitor? o.o?
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btw, one more thing on tatsu that bothers me, she first said it'd become messy if she'd reveal her role so early,i get that for doctor, but what about healthy? why not claim that early on? especially after marm dying sickly, though if it came after marm it'd be hard to not think it's a convenient claim, but ok why not at least hint towards healthy super early like I did?
Then, with just ONE sickly in the open dead, (her not knowing there were 2 sicklies one town one mafia) why would she NOT counterclaim it when I claimed???????
and the simple fact that one sickly proved to be mafia should make it clear that one healthy will be mafia for sure in this scenario. Like DD said.
As for her protecting GB last night, unless he was poisoned in the deathless night, she shouldn't have failed. Scenario 1:
Let's say GB got poisoned N2, so tatsu couldn't protect him last night he was already dead, so her protecting him tonight was pointless.
In this case, DD protecting Holt from Poisoner N2 and redirecting the poison onto him falls. And that would mean DD died N3 protecting Tatsu.
Scenario 2:
DD died poisoned, by protecting holt N2. That would make tatsu a liar because GB died with her "protecting" him (supposedly, can't know if she did since she did not reveal her target ~WHICH IS SUPER SUS BTW~). And would mean they targeted GB on N3 for kill.
Scenario 3:
Tatsu didn't protect anyone cuz she's not actually townie, they killed DD directly to make it look like he died protecting her, to further confirm her townie alliance. And GB was just poisoned N2.
I think I remember GB being sussed early on so not sure they'd go for poisoning him tho', would much rather see holt being poisoned.
@Brandish μ can necro target the same player twice to use both roles a player have? Cause maybe you can still use sickly from Margi, at the moment it looks just as good as a detective.
Since there is no healthy mafia, if they get sick they are mafia?
@Brandish μ can necro target the same player twice to use both roles a player have? Cause maybe you can still use sickly from Margi, at the moment it looks just as good as a detective.
Since there is no healthy mafia, if they get sick they are mafia?
I think it fair for hosts to mislead us with the setup like by having a second useless det, a useless mafia doctor, or 2 healthy townies to cause us to misslynch, if we have no other info.
It also hard to tell if a player is busy or mafia, not doing something obvious pro town (like what you mentioned about tatsu claim of healthy townies).
Luckily we still have good numbers, dead blockers and strongman, protections and multiple night threats.
So I think we should rely on facts only, like detective results or necro results.
Since we are allowed 1 misslynch, whoever fakes a result is dead next.
Maybe that what I'm missing, I'm not used to being around this late, maybe Holt detective is the right way to cross the finishing line.
I managed to get myself some free time. I’m done with mafia so let me say my perspective.
First, I didn’t read all the posts today as time is limited, but I saw you saying I’m giving up Holt. I just don’t have a schedule compatible with the mafia game that’s all. Check all of my posts during weekdays and you will see a correlation between all of them. It’s always when people are less active. You must already know anyway, because I don’t believe you’re town (mr lied about a result already if we listen to Brandish). I’m inclined to believe that you’re using that to your advantage. I’m easily framable, and I don’t have the opportunity to defend myself with the time I have.
Stalling your time by one day to make sure your teammate or yourself if you’re alone can increase your odds at winning is certainly a good plan so it’s understandable, but at the cost of someone who was willing to help you? Not cool.
One thing I don’t get is why James so eagerly agreed with Holt’s result. How can one believe that the other one is town is not logical. Biggest question being why would one of them have detective as an omo while the other one has it as an aigoo.
James at least didn’t lie about a result, so I believe that you’re the mafia between the two.
Therefore !votekill Holt.
I will be here during the final phase if as I’ve said I don’t have 8 votes on me when I come back. So I will still have my votelock.
Time’s out. I’ll see if I can find some more time later on before the final hours.
Not sure how you’re easily frame able. Not like I know your time schedule so I can’t factor that. Not like my schedule is any better.
I didn’t lie about a result. Marm was paranoid. If I lied about a result and got caught already, I sure as hell won’t be able to get away with it again by framing you. I would literally have nowhere to go once you’re lynched and flipped. I could’ve also easily fueled discussions of going after someone one. Shad is literally looking for a mentor and clearly willing to ignore lynching you. That will be a lifeline and I’d just need to play along and try to tote that line, but I’ve repeatedly suggested lynching you.
It’s interesting that you base a large part of your argument on me “lying” about a result earlier. Infact it’s funny even because you’re less concerned about the fact that I’ve incriminating evidence on you and more of the fact that I “lied”. So if I didn’t “lie” previously, you would believe when I say you’re scum? That’s pretty weak defense. You know there’s nothing that explains wrong results. The mere fact that I’m accusing you should be sufficient for you to know I’m lying. However you reference Brandish saying I’m lying and you do that without being confident that I was lying.
Oh and this is me engaging simply because I do respect your time, not because I want to explain how I’m not framing you. There was already no need for logic or explanation the moment my results incriminated you. Only thing I’m curious about now is what non-town you flip as
Fine.
I'm the 2nd Mason. Mason/Detective.
It's why I first voted Tatsu over Marm and would have stayed on Tatsu until Marm claimed "investigative" role and suddenly Tatsu got a whole bunch of votes on her which made me paranoid about Marm being a M.Det. Thus I voted for Marm after all just to learn that Panda did put a spy and a det into a mason team. Mason was my "social" hint but with Marm gone the social aspect of being confirmed that way has been taken away from me due me and others distrusting Marm.
Only James and Marmalade, I've never seen a person lynch their Mason partner D1 and get away with it for so long. @Marmalade Sorry we will get him eventually xD
I managed to get myself some free time. I’m done with mafia so let me say my perspective.
First, I didn’t read all the posts today as time is limited, but I saw you saying I’m giving up Holt. I just don’t have a schedule compatible with the mafia game that’s all. Check all of my posts during weekdays and you will see a correlation between all of them. It’s always when people are less active. You must already know anyway, because I don’t believe you’re town (mr lied about a result already if we listen to Brandish). I’m inclined to believe that you’re using that to your advantage. I’m easily framable, and I don’t have the opportunity to defend myself with the time I have.
Stalling your time by one day to make sure your teammate or yourself if you’re alone can increase your odds at winning is certainly a good plan so it’s understandable, but at the cost of someone who was willing to help you? Not cool.
One thing I don’t get is why James so eagerly agreed with Holt’s result. How can one believe that the other one is town is not logical. Biggest question being why would one of them have detective as an omo while the other one has it as an aigoo.
James at least didn’t lie about a result, so I believe that you’re the mafia between the two.
Therefore !votekill Holt.
I will be here during the final phase if as I’ve said I don’t have 8 votes on me when I come back. So I will still have my votelock.
Time’s out. I’ll see if I can find some more time later on before the final hours.
Thing is we don't know if Marm was the useless type of spy or not. So it is basically word against word, Brand saw Holt target me, Holt said he targeted Shad or DD or one of those two at the very least. Thing is if Holt is Mafia as you say - what was his action to use on me? Sickly, Escort, M.Doc and Poisoner can't be the case since those belonged to others or were used on others like potentially GB. All that leaves that is M.Det and if he is M.Det why in god's name did none of the Mafia ever kill me when they knew I was Det and lying through my teeth about having a passive that keeps me alive? Makes no sense whatsoever as getting rid of dets early is awesome, heck I'd use a Strongman to achieve that!
Thus i rather incline to believe Holt for now. Especially if he looks into me and Tatsu next night to either confirm me town or to confirm Tatsu. Especially if you turn out Mentee, then Tatsu has the biggest potential of being your Mentor.
Since you talk about stalling, I think you are talking about Tatsu since she is the only one who claimed to not have used an action in night 1?
My det being omo could be due the fact that it is paranoid. Or it is sane and I just hit guilty types lol. It's why I kinda distrust the townie claim by Holt because it is convenient to claim that it has to be Death Miller in case he gets investigated by another det. However that's not enough for me to let someone go that we have a clear investigation result on, no matter if said person already is a mafia, a tp or could become a future mafia.
I find it very interesting that you said I didn't lie about a result, meaning you would know that my results are legit due your traitor role. Meaning you had SirSam, Erinyes, Tatsu and Holt as Mafia in your traitor list. If you die traitor then next day we should be 6 and would have 4 towns vs 2 mafia with this deduction. Which would mean Baka is townie and that noble vote ours to use which makes it 5 to 2 and impossible for Mafia to win.
Votekilling Holt as traitor is just sad, but understandable. I still see you dead first to confirm your role, then we can focus on Holt and on Tatsu if you are traitor.
You sure? The way Gaj wrote does feel like he is apprentice/traitor and Holt has voted to kill a mafia before. Why would he hand us over an extra mafia? Plus last game we also had dets as 1 spice uses, so his claim with 2 guilty results on 2 towns and 1 on a sus player feels legit. Legit enough to lynch Gaj today and see what Holt finds out tomorrow with me or Tatsu. Or Baka if my hunch is right about the noble stuff.
If Gaj ain't Mentee, and if he was Mentee he would have told us so we would avoid killing him to kill somebody else, then he is the best way for us to check if Holt is legit since lynching a traitor is just making it easier for town to win.
As I said above even if Gaj tells us the truth aka about Holt lying and me telling the truth, it would still be better to confirm what he is first and then see next day how Holt tries to get out of it. If he is a lying M.Det then he will try to claim innocent on me, which I cannot be as Mason/Det, so we would know that he and Tatsu are in cahoots and are trying to win as a 2er Mafia pair. Until then we got the extra Noble vote.
If Gaj turns out Mentee, then Tatsu was Mentor, so Holt will sell him out next if he wants to win and avoid being killed by the newly up-coming Mentor-Mentee team. And then we still outnumber him on the next day. The numbers just ain't in favor of mafia no matter if it is traitor-2 mafias or mentor/mentee- 1 mafia. Even if Baka turned out to be the last remaining Mafia that extra vote is not enough against 3+ towns.
I think lynching Gaj is smarter for now to see where we currently stand and then see where Holt's true alignment might lie next day. It all depends on Gaj's role, which we won't know if we don't lynch him, and Holt's next target/result aka either me or Tatsu.
Only James and Marmalade, I've never seen a person lynch their Mason partner D1 and get away with it for so long. @Marmalade Sorry we will get him eventually xD
Yeah, because if you were a mason/det day 1 and then see your mason buddy also claim an investigative role your paranoid mind wouldn't go "oh shit nuggets, he could be M.Det, I'm fucked if that is true!". If Marm has claimed Spy, I would have let her live because spy is the hardest role to fake for mafia. If she had claimed protective, would have let her live because a det plus a protector role makes a lot of sense. If she had gone and just claimed mason, would have votelocked Tatsu since I knew that role already and I would take hiding the main role as a fact that Marm got an important role to want to stay alive.
Me killing Marm actually shows the most that I can't be M.Det because I could have easily lied about my role to Marm due my knowledge of who is and isn't town and Marm might have told me her actual role for free in Mason Pad. Losing a townie I could have potentially pulled to vote for Mafia makes no sense. Except ofc me and Tatsu are Mafia but yeah, big chance of that, lol. XD
You do agree though that voting Gaj makes the most sense so we can either confirm or bury the TP theory, right? Plus if he turns out Mafia then that makes Holt more and more legit which means we can trust his next finding on either me or Tatsu even more.
@Brandish μ can necro target the same player twice to use both roles a player have? Cause maybe you can still use sickly from Margi, at the moment it looks just as good as a detective.
Since there is no healthy mafia, if they get sick they are mafia?
The hosts do the double Necro because the Aigoo Necro takes other Aigoos while the Omo Necro takes other Omos from the corpses. So yeah, Necro can make use of both aigoo and omo of a dead player, just most likely not at the same time, but one by one. I think. @Copy Panda@Farfalla Can a Necro/Necro use both aigoo and omo in the same night or is there a restriction like having to do that on the same person or to have to take an Aigoo from one and an Omo from another dead person?
Not sure how you’re easily frame able. Not like I know your time schedule so I can’t factor that. Not like my schedule is any better.
I didn’t lie about a result. Marm was paranoid. If I lied about a result and got caught already, I sure as hell won’t be able to get away with it again by framing you. I would literally have nowhere to go once you’re lynched and flipped. I could’ve also easily fueled discussions of going after someone one. Shad is literally looking for a mentor and clearly willing to ignore lynching you. That will be a lifeline and I’d just need to play along and try to tote that line, but I’ve repeatedly suggested lynching you.
It’s interesting that you base a large part of your argument on me “lying” about a result earlier. Infact it’s funny even because you’re less concerned about the fact that I’ve incriminating evidence on you and more of the fact that I “lied”. So if I didn’t “lie” previously, you would believe when I say you’re scum? That’s pretty weak defense. You know there’s nothing that explains wrong results. The mere fact that I’m accusing you should be sufficient for you to know I’m lying. However you reference Brandish saying I’m lying and you do that without being confident that I was lying.
Oh and this is me engaging simply because I do respect your time, not because I want to explain how I’m not framing you. There was already no need for logic or explanation the moment my results incriminated you. Only thing I’m curious about now is what non-town you flip as
And this is exactly why Gaj needs to die. He dies Mentee, we got most likely a Mentor in Tatsu. He dies Traitor, Holt and Tatsu start to look very sus. He dies mafia role whatever, Holt is legit and last remaining Mafia could be either Tatsu or Baka. Simple as that.
I don't mind votelocking Gaj so we can get this over with. Anyone else up for it as well?
Necromancer (Townie): At night, the Necromancer can target a dead player to take their ability (as long as it's an active night action), and then use their taken night action on another player. He can do this every night, but never use the ability of the same player more than once. If he tries to take the ability of a dead player whose primary role is of an antagonist, nothing happens. The same applies if the role he tries to take became unusable (e.g. a defused or already exploded Kamikaze Bomb).
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