Games Mafia Game 119 - Fate/Grand OMO - End Game

[Crescent Jinx]

Why did you pick Kahoka? Why not Bel or Brandish? You even tried to lock Bel last minute.

True, I didn’t even think of that. There should be lovers. So right now it’s a three way tie with 2 on all sides? If there’s lover then one must be town. You’re the only other person I believe to be town besides me. Are you lovers? Kakoha having anon vote must’ve come from Caster Np. That would be from one of the Gb voters. If Kahoka was scum or lover, his partner wouldn’t allow that vote

Also I’m Restless spirit. I hadn’t been asked prior to now. You make it sound like I was ?

We did block brandish tho

I blocked
Raven blocked Kaboka

that means ravens killer is either you or
Marma or Bel

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Also wasn’t Demon saber on N1? Didn’t Shad say he targetted Raven Night 1? Misha our other doctor was dead.

Saber [revealed N3] Target someone with a protective power, or be targeted by a protective power

So who was the protecting power that protected Demon???

 

[Holt]

We did block brandish tho

I blocked
Raven blocked Kaboka

that means ravens killer is either you or
Marma or Bel

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Also wasn’t Demon saber on N1? Didn’t Shad say he targetted Raven Night 1? Misha our other doctor was dead.


So who was the protecting power that protected Demon???

I didn’t say you didn’t . I said why Kahoka ?

 

[Belserion]

Hey @Belserion
what NPs did u get since the start of the game ?
I'm sure u got many !

Nice try but I only got one and it was detective. Used it on Brandish N3 but was blocked since I didn't get a result.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

I didn’t say you didn’t . I said why Kahoka ?

My crazy thought process:

plz try to follow

Because Lambu said he got guilty on Bel and she said she was DM; but Kakoha paranoid results were for Demon and Bel. So in words that were stated “either Lambu is lying or bel is.” Then Brandish saved Bel the next day. And because of Linda that one game. The new player back in the day who played so well. She ended up being mafia. It just looked like maybe Bel-Brandish-Ko-DD team.

Brandish I wasn’t going to let slide after that end of day fiasco. I also thought he must have been the doctor that gave Demon the saber results. Very likely mafia doctor and potentially a good person they would use to kill

Raven wanted to block Holt.Even though I fully believe Bel is mafia. Two things give me pause.

Holt and Bel are the only two passive claims this game. In a very role active heavy game. I feel if one is mafia the other might be town! And I kind of feel a DM fits all the detectives + mechanism. Or a sleeper.

Also the only thing I could think that you would be unenthusiastic about was TSC/Lover. Raven and I even kept asking ppl if they thought there was lovers in the game.

My original result from DD wasn’t you Holt. It was that DD blocked Bel. I wasn’t going to come out and my results on D2 when I didn’t even know if I was sane or paranoid. I just knew it was opposite what DD said. I just haven’t gotten a spy result since then.

Marma doesn’t feel like a hider to me. She feels more like a detective. But she felt like town to me and Raven. But then she didn’t do anything when I was spying on her

@Holt it doesn’t have to be a 2 x 2 x 2 unless you already know the lineup because why couldn’t lovers have TSC??? When the game should have four mafia…. and the lovers group just need to lynch remaining mafia to win?

so at that point it would be
3 lovers groups vs 1 (only town left = me) vs 2 pure Red mafia

There’s no way I believe any of you are town at this point

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Nice try but I only got one and it was detective. Used it on Brandish N3 but was blocked since I didn't get a result.

You were blocked?????

 

[Belserion]

You were blocked?????

Yes I can only assume so. At first I thought maybe my action was redirected at you from barkeeper shenanigans when you said you had the potato, but I didn't get any result so I figured after the Lambu result the prostitute didn't trust me and that made more sense.

 

[Brandish μ]

So it was a lovers game all along

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so at that point it would be
3 lovers groups vs 1 (only town left = me) vs 2 pure Red mafia

Who do you want to win, lovers or mafia? The lovers pair would be okay with kakoha it seems.

 

[Crescent Jinx]

So unless Brandish or Koko’s friend is strongman,

So I would prefer to lynch

Yes I can only assume so. At first I thought maybe my action was redirected at you from barkeeper shenanigans when you said you had the potato, but I didn't get any result so I figured after the Lambu result the prostitute didn't trust me and that made more sense.

My original NP was sane det/Hot potato NP but that was one of reason for the extended night because it was changed to prostitute.

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So I would prefer to lynch

I’m trying to be on here in this game during lunch. and this dude keep trying to talk to me. Like this guy keeps talking to me and I keep trying to give him cold shoulder. Like bro. Read the environment



no wonder I’m single

 

[Brandish μ]

Sorry I bothered you

 

[Crescent Jinx]

Sorry I bothered you

It’s not you. It’s this guy from blood bank. He was here on my morning break too

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Honestly though I want to see you guys tossle especially Bel and Holt because they have been less active then Brandish and Marma and Koko friend. But I still don’t know if there’s one remaining town with me so not either.

I’m just surprised that nobody suspected lovers? It’s a valentines game. The mafia should have been on that from the beginning

 

[Brandish μ]

This will be an interesting day

 

[Kakoha]

unless somehow there's no lovers, this game is over for townies tbh. I can't vote and there only 1 other townie left besides me.
it's between lovers and mafia, if the lovers manages to kill a townie, they win, if mafia manages to kill a lover, they win.
but since you are all claming townies, I dare you all to vote bel, you know, the PUBLICLY CONFIRMED MAFIA.
you don't even need to trust anyone to know bel is mafia.

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I think this day's vote will reveal everyone's roles.

 

[Holt]

My crazy thought process:

plz try to follow

Because Lambu said he got guilty on Bel and she said she was DM; but Kakoha paranoid results were for Demon and Bel. So in words that were stated “either Lambu is lying or bel is.” Then Brandish saved Bel the next day. And because of Linda that one game. The new player back in the day who played so well. She ended up being mafia. It just looked like maybe Bel-Brandish-Ko-DD team.

Brandish I wasn’t going to let slide after that end of day fiasco. I also thought he must have been the doctor that gave Demon the saber results. Very likely mafia doctor and potentially a good person they would use to kill

Raven wanted to block Holt.Even though I fully believe Bel is mafia. Two things give me pause.

Holt and Bel are the only two passive claims this game. In a very role active heavy game. I feel if one is mafia the other might be town! And I kind of feel a DM fits all the detectives + mechanism. Or a sleeper.

Also the only thing I could think that you would be unenthusiastic about was TSC/Lover. Raven and I even kept asking ppl if they thought there was lovers in the game.

My original result from DD wasn’t you Holt. It was that DD blocked Bel. I wasn’t going to come out and my results on D2 when I didn’t even know if I was sane or paranoid. I just knew it was opposite what DD said. I just haven’t gotten a spy result since then.

Marma doesn’t feel like a hider to me. She feels more like a detective. But she felt like town to me and Raven. But then she didn’t do anything when I was spying on her

@Holt it doesn’t have to be a 2 x 2 x 2 unless you already know the lineup because why couldn’t lovers have TSC??? When the game should have four mafia…. and the lovers group just need to lynch remaining mafia to win?

so at that point it would be
3 lovers groups vs 1 (only town left = me) vs 2 pure Red mafia

There’s no way I believe any of you are town at this point

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You were blocked?????

But Kakoha didn’t vote Gb yesterday. At the very least, that should’ve made you pause, especially since you tried to lock on Bel at the end. There’s absolutely no way mafia at that point would’ve made it so close considering the votes were equal. Not even surprised Raven wanted to block me. Probably because I refused to make a list for her. My issue is shes always to set in her ways. Tbh blocking at least two out of the Gb voters would’ve been optimal. I wouldn’t even mind if I had been picked. It’s quite upsetting tbh.

Why would I be unenthusiastic about TSC or lover? Both will require me to be more engaged in the game either by pad or guessing.

So you lied about DD? I mean it’s fair that we eventually got him but that could’ve turned out weird. How were you certain he was lying? I mean given what Gb flipped it’s entirely possible he wasn’t even. I’m not following the thought process on what made you certain?

Because if lovers have a TSC then that’s 3 of them. Is this mafia or lovers game? It doesn’t work out at all. That would be completely unbalanced for the mafia. Means it’s 1 solo mafia and given the only one we know being DD who was escort, it doesn’t fit at all. I don’t know the lineup but I’m assuming 4 antagonists. The mafia probably had 3, one of who is lover, so 2 mafia in truth. Then the 2 lovers (even the town lover counts as Tp). As for 3 lovers team, 2 pure mafia, that’s imo too much. It’s not even about the size of non-town, but the composition. The lovers would have such a ridiculous advantage.

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unless somehow there's no lovers, this game is over for townies tbh. I can't vote and there only 1 other townie left besides me.
it's between lovers and mafia, if the lovers manages to kill a townie, they win, if mafia manages to kill a lover, they win.
but since you are all claming townies, I dare you all to vote bel, you know, the PUBLICLY CONFIRMED MAFIA.
you don't even need to trust anyone to know bel is mafia.

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I think this day's vote will reveal everyone's roles.

I’m fine with Bel, but Marm already said she wants to vote Brandish. Yesterday she also voted Gb in Favor of Bel. She will either vote you or Brandish. I’m not sure what she is but tbh she can’t be town.

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Even Jinx who I trust could be lover. Because I’m not seeing how Kakoha was an optimal block choice, unless the lovers were onboard with that idea.

 

[Brandish μ]

Seems I may need to reveal to give us a chance

 

[Kakoha]

I’m fine with Bel, but Marm already said she wants to vote Brandish. Yesterday she also voted Gb in Favor of Bel. She will either vote you or Brandish. I’m not sure what she is but tbh she can’t be town.

well she just said she just prefers to start with brandish because it's her result.
but since this is a deception game, I think she'll understand why we gotta start with the publicly confirmed mafia first.
if she wants to gain the townies trust, she'll vote bel.
we'll see if she actually changes her mind to vote bel instead.

 

[Brandish μ]

votekill Belserion

 

[Belserion]

well she just said she just prefers to start with brandish because it's her result.
but since this is a deception game, I think she'll understand why we gotta start with the publicly confirmed mafia first.
if she wants to gain the townies trust, she'll vote bel.
we'll see if she actually changes her mind to vote bel instead.

Shouldn't we be going after the lovers first if they are in the game though, which at this point it's likely. Or would that not be beneficial?

 

[Kakoha]

Shouldn't we be going after the lovers first if they are in the game though, which at this point it's likely. Or would that not be beneficial?

no, because :
-we're not 100% sure there are lovers in the game to begin with.
-even if we were sure, we have no information on who they could be. we can't just randomly guess

sorry, but going for u is way safer

 

[Holt]

Shouldn't we be going after the lovers first if they are in the game though, which at this point it's likely. Or would that not be beneficial?

There’s really no way you expect to survive again? And who would be these lovers even? We have no leads

Votekill Belserion

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Hmm. If Brandish is scum, then he thinks Bel is lovers? Marm-Bel lovers? Would be too much for me if Jinx is the lover tbh

 

[Crescent Jinx]

Seems I may need to reveal to give us a chance

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But Kakoha didn’t vote Gb yesterday. At the very least, that should’ve made you pause, especially since you tried to lock on Bel at the end. There’s absolutely no way mafia at that point would’ve made it so close considering the votes were equal. Not even surprised Raven wanted to block me. Probably because I refused to make a list for her. My issue is shes always to set in her ways. Tbh blocking at least two out of the Gb voters would’ve been optimal. I wouldn’t even mind if I had been picked. It’s quite upsetting tbh.

Why would I be unenthusiastic about TSC or lover? Both will require me to be more engaged in the game either by pad or guessing.

So you lied about DD? I mean it’s fair that we eventually got him but that could’ve turned out weird. How were you certain he was lying? I mean given what Gb flipped it’s entirely possible he wasn’t even. I’m not following the thought process on what made you certain?

Because if lovers have a TSC then that’s 3 of them. Is this mafia or lovers game? It doesn’t work out at all. That would be completely unbalanced for the mafia. Means it’s 1 solo mafia and given the only one we know being DD who was escort, it doesn’t fit at all. I don’t know the lineup but I’m assuming 4 antagonists. The mafia probably had 3, one of who is lover, so 2 mafia in truth. Then the 2 lovers (even the town lover counts as Tp). As for 3 lovers team, 2 pure mafia, that’s imo too much. It’s not even about the size of non-town, but the composition. The lovers would have such a ridiculous advantage.

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I’m fine with Bel, but Marm already said she wants to vote Brandish. Yesterday she also voted Gb in Favor of Bel. She will either vote you or Brandish. I’m not sure what she is but tbh she can’t be town.

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Even Jinx who I trust could be lover. Because I’m not seeing how Kakoha was an optimal block choice, unless the lovers were onboard with that idea.

Idk my read on you was town. Especially because if you were mafia you would have known something was up if you knew who DD targetted.

I can’t truly get behind Kakoha being the 4th townie investigator role without being a lover or connected to mafia

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Shouldn't we be going after the lovers first if they are in the game though, which at this point it's likely. Or would that not be beneficial?

Who do you think are the lovers

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That question for @Brandish μ too

 

[Kakoha]

I can’t truly get behind Kakoha being the 4th townie investigator role without being a lover or connected to mafia

det literally have sanities that makes the role pretty much useless. with an NP like archer, it's very normal to have 3 dets with useless sanities, just to proc archer CCs.