Games Mafia Game 87 - Baccano! - END GAME

[Raven]

Its fine Rav, the damage is done. Pulling you out of the comfort zone is already good in my book.

Also DD I was technically... born to die? But if xnut isn't lynched he should be killed through RT first.

You sound like a deluded individual. Believe what makes you sleep i guess.

 

[Farfalla]

I'll state I do have relevant input to share and I can't see why Desin as town hoe would either refuse to share his target or come here to say he blocked me after I say something.

 

[Raven]

Kinda funny that desin is more worried about the Masons pad while can't do a single good argument here and Lambu worried about my reading while doing circular reasoning fallacy.

 

[desin24]

I was the main reason of lynching Hardy, I could have easily did the opposite if i were Mafia. However, I'm not against lynching me. If townies think it's a good choice.

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Lambu or Desin lynch is more worth than anything right now with such amazing claims.

the main reason for lynching Hardy was that Panda openly stated that he will target Hardy before dying the following night. The others went to lynch a 1000% confirmed mafia instead.

Lol, I already said yesterday that I would want Lala to investigate me or Vandred and answered to Sakura earlier that I hope Lala can shed some light in the situation. Ofc I didn't block her when I want results from her.

I blocked Vandred in hopes that he is Escort so that Lala can investigate in peace.

 

[digitaldude]

Why isnt lambu concerned about gnut/vandred/gajeel but concerned who is the real bp.

 

[GrySun]

Notice no one claimed bomb and shad is defuser.

Mafia Bomb wouldn't claim Bomb.

 

[desin24]

Kinda funny that desin is more worried about the Masons pad while can't do a single good argument here and Lambu worried about my reading while doing circular reasoning fallacy.

Show his circular reasoning please and enlighten the rest of us idiots.

 

[Shad]

Notice no one claimed bomb and shad is defuser.

Yes, bomb being town is no longer an option.

If you want to live, don't vote last xD

Unless Host is trolling me and the only bomb was behind Hardy's Apprentice

 

[Raven]

the main reason for lynching Hardy was that Panda openly stated that he will target Hardy before dying the following night. The others went to lynch a 1000% confirmed mafia instead.

Lol, I already said yesterday that I would want Lala to investigate me or Vandred and answered to Sakura earlier that I hope Lala can shed some light in the situation. Ofc I didn't block her when I want results from her.

I blocked Vandred in hopes that he is Escort so that Lala can investigate in peace.

After more than half of the players believing that Hardy is freeman, I don't think Panda was the reason anymore, Even Grysun was about to fall to this. Simply take away my effort yesterday and you could have Hardy playing with you the previous night in the mafia pad

 

[Farfalla]

I guess I can say it now then. I targeted Van and not only got no results but no PM back, unlike what happened to Gaj. I PMd hosts back sometime ago to see if there's any sort of mistake (no reply yet) but so far what I get from this is that Gaj indeed targeted no one in N2 (and lied) while this time there was a block affecting the course of my action indeed. But tell me if I'm missing something.

 

[Shad]

After more than half of the players believing that Hardy is freeman, I don't think Panda was the reason anymore, Even Grysun was about to fall to this. Simply take away my effort yesterday and you could have Hardy playing with you the previous night in the mafia pad

Yes Raven was the one that made people change their vote to kill Hardy.
You can't take away that form her, no matter what else you suspect about her.

She pinged people to get them to vote, I couldn't have done what she has done, and I was adamant we should kill Hardy!

 

[digitaldude]

I guess I can say it now then. I targeted Van and not only got no results but no PM back, unlike what happened to Gaj. I PMd hosts back sometime ago to see if there's any sort of mistake (no reply yet) but so far what I get from this is that Gaj indeed targeted no one in N2 (and lied) while this time there was a block affecting the course of my action indeed. But tell me if I'm missing something.

OH NO OH NOOO

 

[Farfalla]

IDK why the hosts would treat those differently tho... Thought all would result in "no result" delivered the same way...

 

[Baka Taichou]

Sakura first I want to congratulate you for being very chill this game, I really think you improved a lot, and except the xnut discussion I believe he was a big part of why it went wrong, you didn't over react to people suspecting you, which is normal in this game.

I hope you continue to look at things objectively and not take things personally when we start asking you question, as you said yourself there is a chance it will happen, with the current situation.

Then I want to add that the mechanic was designed for a game with multiple parties, them being mostly all gone and this going back to a mafia vs town situation is making the mechanic abusable by town, especially if mafia screwed up and used multiple people to summon a kill on N1, this is a hope but it may be true.

I think first thing we do today is figure out everybody's actions, we can find a clear target just like that, farf will go last, not because we trust more than others but because she claimed spy.

We can't kill xnut today, because @Belserion may have an Elixir to pass.

I suggested D1 that passing the Elixir is better than using it for town, as passing it can confirm the passer, at that time I didn't think about it, but I checked yesterday and BG can protect against strongman kills, so since we have 2 alive today, we can safely pass 2 Elixirs.

1 Should definitively go for Gry, no discussion.
I don't want an Elixir as I'm roleless (I have another minor reason but will share later in the day).

The other Elixir I'm not sure yet who should get it.

I have some small reasons to trust you a bit less than @digitaldude
As a BP he thought N1 to go for Elixir and pass it, and was very transparent about it, you didn't think about doing this or did you?
Since DD has an elixir he could confirm himself today, so that will leave only you.

This is excluding any wierd mafia play, where they pass Elixir to gain trust, I don't think it possible but just keeping that in mind.

well I have a secret for my calmness, I had a 3 day weekend so I haven't been stressed with work, plus smth else I will reveal late game only. Yeah I was a bit mean to xnut but he was too acid in his language for me to hold back.

ofc I won't, even though I'm not a main sus, I know the time will come, it's unavoidable. and it's exactly like the potato, I knew I'd get it and won't get rid of it, and that I'd die at some point, but at least I kept it from killing others and kept mafia busy blocking me each freaking night and eventually got holt killed too who was mafia. So yea, same here. Just be careful, my first voters will probably be mafia.

I agree on not going for xnut today, besides what you said plus double noble vote from belserion definitely good for us.

actually I did not go for the elixir in the first night because I didn't rly understand the mechanics in D1 I missed a lot of the convo and including D2 the whole thing around the game mechanics and everyone posting contradictory comments about it made me dizzy. I only backread on the missed 20 pages during N2 and got more confused, but I decided not to go for elixir as 1 it takes 3 days and I already missed 1 and 2 there's only 4 potions so ppl probably already started N1.
I used the protect RT last night to protect Raven(figured after the Hardy event she'd be a target), and since ppl haven't claimed any rts actions by now, I'll go ahead and mention that I got a message that I was targeted by the blocking RT. So I'm happy that Raven was not a target, even though sad that we lost our only doctor, but yea if she would have been a target, thanks to whoever blocked me for increasing the chances of her death with my block.

And I wouldn't put it past them to do elixir to gain credibility.

 

[digitaldude]

So gajeel is most likely mafia man if farfalla believed.

 

[Shad]

IDK why the hosts would treat those differently tho... Thought all would result in "no result" delivered the same way...

SS Illusion? I'm just saying random words because I don't understand what you just said?

 

[Baka Taichou]

Pretty unlikely at this point and Gry can use the Det only once with necromancy without knowing the sanity

since we appear to have only one det, it'd be extremely low possibility for him to have been insane i'd say

 

[Lambu]

Why isnt lambu concerned about gnut/vandred/gajeel but concerned who is the real bp.

Because there's no way there's two bps + SuperMason Jesus

Also I already adressed the case of Van vs desin, Im very torn on them rn. Gajeel basically claimed Banshee which is very hard to prove and isn't playing like someone with a town role. Cowboy existed too so more killing roles with so many blocking-protection roles and a mechanic that extra kills sounds kinda fake.

 

[Baka Taichou]

How many times have you accused me now of being buddy-buddy with someone I'm not? Holt, hardy, Lambu?

please quote me on those I don't remember pairing you up with holt. I might have with hardy but I don't remember except calling you hardy earlier in a reply which was not on purpose.

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Gry and I aren't being "buddies" tho, we stand in completely different positions.

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Then she cannot be confirmed until she dies, and they are never going to kill her ayyy

buddy buddy as in pairing up in your convos against raven. or have I mixed that up with someone else?

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Sakura have you done anything any of the nights?

check my big post reply to shad.

 

[Raven]

Yes Raven was the one that made people change their vote to kill Hardy.
You can't take away that form her, no matter what else you suspect about her.

She pinged people to get them to vote, I couldn't have done what she has done, and I was adamant we should kill Hardy!

Desin and lambu, They are using the same strategy that hardy wanted to pull yesterday, wanted to paint me as the mafia mason. They just feel insecure, that's it.