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Madame fallaFar's Daily Horoscope corner!
🔮 With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time 🔮

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♈ Aries ♈
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

♉Taurus ♉
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

♊Gemini ♊
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

♋ Cancer ♋
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."

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♌ Leo ♌
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

♍ Virgo ♍
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

♎ Libra ♎
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

♏ Scorpio ♏
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."

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♐ Sagittarius ♐
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

♑ Capricorn ♑
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

♒ Aquarius ♒
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

♓ Pisces ♓
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
 

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🔮 Night Actions 🔮




Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those :lmao

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work 😤 The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it :heh. I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time 😤





🌠 Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing! 🌠
 
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Yeah, It's kind of important, since you imply i did something suspicious, so i would like to know what that would be.
well then you could go to the start of the day and search through your posts
 

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Fwiw, despite seeing the train on me as premeditated and not liking either, the sheer boldness of Evil and Juviii voting right after the other makes me second guess about the latter a bit.
 

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Big words, but what exactly you revealing having to do with me being lynch? Not following. Also a Bodyguard? :)
this one. might have misunderstood, cuz i remember he said something previously about you claiming bodyguard, then i saw you reply this. Hence me saying it wasn't important, since before I only said you didn't confirm or deny (because I asked if you confirmed and smth else and you didn't reply to the confirmation q, or so i remember)
 

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I'm confident the horoscope is fluff and the shapeshifter namedrop actually makes me think it ain't in the game.



Literally getting killed here, the stars are fucking me talking about living the week.

Later I guess. You missed some of my clues which makes you look good to me.



The way everything has gone, I'd say Evil, easily.

While I still didn't go back to his day one (where he basically locked on me iirc because he didn't like my clues, instead of just asking me what the fuck he wanted), day two the first thing he does is connect me to desin. He then leaves the topic seeing if anyone picks it up, and then goes guns blazing the moment I show up.

I'm confident this is 100% premeditated, even more if they expected desin to die via shad as they should.

In the meantime he claims bodyguard to gain rep. Early claim, but then why didn't he do it D1 if he's so open about it? Could be EH's role or just waited a night to organise claims. See how open he is to the possibility of me being a bodyguard.

In order to build a case he then proceeds to say no mafia would anon vote themselves (latter specifying D1 to put them at a massive amount of 2 votes)... When he contemplated voting himself last game, so he knows these mind games are nothing new. Sure, it's not exactly the same, I admitted that several times (even though he kept trying to force that idea to make my connection lose value, using strawmen in the process) but the possibility of shad self voting at the time was real, not nonsense.



I think the whole play was fishing for shad's role to then move his role, axing me, now that I see this. I'm still rather confident he forgot about the mechanic, though.

@Scary Noona I'm flattered but I think basically suiciding a member just to frame me the next day is pretty nuts, as he could just get me killed then and there.
Oh my, here we go again, easily 100% mafia again. Just when did i hear this one before. Right! Day 1 about Shad.

Lol. The audacity criticising other player's role hints and timing of claims, when you had one of the lowest quality day 1 hints and kept refusing to contribute more even as the votes kept piling up. Moreover, we still know just as much about you as yesterday. "But you didn't ask", dude, why didn't you just say it?

Nobody asked me, nor do I need an invitation to contribute information to Town, because unlike you I'm townie.

I'm with Gry on full disclosure for the Janitor and Pisces threats btw, so shoot everyone.
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this one. might have misunderstood, cuz i remember he said something previously about you claiming bodyguard, then i saw you reply this. Hence me saying it wasn't important, since before I only said you didn't confirm or deny (because I asked if you confirmed and smth else and you didn't reply to the confirmation q, or so i remember)
Scary, Im on Phone now and possibly for the rest of the game so I won't be able to quote anything, but seriously now?!

It went like that (paraphrasing). Asako said - why would Shad reveal doctor he would get killed, to which i said - not necessarily there are other roles who could protect, such as my bodyguard role. To which you said - how so, a bodyguard does not protect from lynches, to which i said - i meant at night obviously, implying after shads reveal players would have spare him.

So obviously here in this exchange we already talked about my role as you yourself were part of the conversation you should know that.

Next what you quoted is an exchange from hardy and myself that originate like that. He said that he would reveal his role if that would get me kill. To which i replied with the text you you quoted meaning - those two things are completely unrelated as his reveal has nothing to do with me being up for a lynch. The only thing he could reveal that would make me somehow related is if he would also come out as a Bodyguard, which would mean we would need to have two in the setup - not Impossible, but it would be a bit eyebrow raising nonetheless.

Are we clear here now, or further questions on that matter?
 
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Oh my, here we go again, easily 100% mafia again. Just when did i hear this one before. Right! Day 1 about Shad.

Lol. The audacity criticising other player's role hints and timing of claims, when you had one of the lowest quality day 1 hints and kept refusing to contribute more even as the votes kept piling up. Moreover, we still know just as much about you as yesterday. "But you didn't ask", dude, why didn't you just say it?

Nobody asked me, nor do I need an invitation to contribute information to Town, because unlike you I'm townie.

I'm with Gry on full disclosure for the Janitor and Pisces threats btw, so shoot everyone.
Didn't say easily "100%" but it's really up there for me.

I think my hints were some of the best ones actually but welp.

Role that is objectively boring? If someone didn't get it (as avietar did) I was always open to talk about it. There really aren't all that many that fit the bill. Better than "active".

"Used too much IMO". Remarking the last bit. It's not that it appears too much, in my opinion it should be used even less.

"Is my role active" was another clue.

"I couldn't use my role" was another, today.

At this point I haven't revealed to see who else jumps on the train and how. With some hours of thinking it should be obvious for mafia and if it ain't rn they'll talk about it tonight.

I'm the investigator.

If EH revives at best I get to talk about a role D4 so fuck it.
 

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I can't say I've been following all that's been said so I might have missed some points, sorry. Still I'm not sure I like this focus on Hardy.

One thing I saw against him was that last minute desin vote on Shad but is it that relevant so early in game? Especially since Desin certainly knew he was among the 5 bottom posters, so he was at risk of being killed. He might as well try and stir up some confusion just in case?
 

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Alright, got through. Read some stuff a couple times to ensure I get it all, read Panda's horror(haha)scope 4 times but I can't tell if this stuff is supposed to be actual hints or just fluff to mess with our minds. If SS is in the game though then whoever got that role won't be happy with so many active role claims, that's for sure.

So far Hardy has 4 votes on but with so many waiting that doesn't mean anything, so I won't bother with counting votes until it matters. What matters are the last day votings and desin breaking the tie in Hardy's favor while also earning the ire of the one he basically "killed" by his last vote seems odd considering the Aries sign being in effect.
Desin should have known that this will put him into the focus of the first dead player yet he still did so anyway and he did it without trying to get out of the bottom 5 first. Only reason to do so to make sense would be to protect Hardy but with Hardy claiming Investigator on day 2, that doesn't seem to be the case though?

It's because our good man shad left us :feelsbadman

Talking about activities, where is James
I don't think i seen him today especially considering how much he talked yesterday
Was working and then spend the rest of the day with the large family gathering. First one since Corona started. Also I wasn't that active/talkative, I wasn't even close to the top5 posters, lol. Honestly expected more than Tatsu from the bottom 5 to try and get outta that swamp, but it didn't happened.
 

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I can't say I've been following all that's been said so I might have missed some points, sorry. Still I'm not sure I like this focus on Hardy.

One thing I saw against him was that last minute desin vote on Shad but is it that relevant so early in game? Especially since Desin certainly knew he was among the 5 bottom posters, so he was at risk of being killed. He might as well try and stir up some confusion just in case?
I really don't think so, he could had just spammed a bit. He wanted a decisive vote but then shad or me would kill him anyway, so I'm confident he just didn't think about the mechanic.
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Thanks for the reveal.
I would have never guess based on your hints. Boring maybe used too much I wouldn't know I'm quite new.
Used too much because whenever there's a janitor, there's an investigator, weakening the former when it's already not that strong (especially in a meta that reveals a lot anyway).

It's boring af all you do is target whoever got janitored. You don't do shit.
 

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Thanks for the reveal.
I would have never guess based on your hints. Boring maybe used too much I wouldn't know I'm quite new.
Yeah you wouldn't have guessed for the reason alone that it's not overused, as it is only used in the few games in which we have janitors.

His reveal is fake and doesn't even match the prior hints. He could have discreetly mentioned janitors or something related to an other role on his hint.

We're now just supposed to let him live because there are ??? Roles now present, pretty weak.
 

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I really don't think so, he could had just spammed a bit. He wanted a decisive vote but then shad or me would kill him anyway, so I'm confident he just didn't think about the mechanic.
The question is why would he want a decisive vote if you were both twonies, he could have left it up to coinflip since a townie would die either way and he didn't get himself in the spotlight.
His last message makes us think he maybe wasn't expecting to be the last to vote but still.

Anyway. We've been on this topic for too long I think we're going in circles.
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Yeah you wouldn't have guessed for the reason alone that it's not overused, as it is only used in the few games in which we have janitors.

His reveal is fake and doesn't even match the prior hints. He could have discreetly mentioned janitors or something related to an other role on his hint.

We're now just supposed to let him live because there are ??? Roles now present, pretty weak.
votekill evil . You are choosing to die on that hill, so be it. Makes it easier for everyone.

Discretely mentioning janitors lmao how
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The question is why would he want a decisive vote if you were both twonies, he could have left it up to coinflip since a townie would die either way and he didn't get himself in the spotlight.
His last message makes us think he maybe wasn't expecting to be the last to vote but still.

Anyway. We've been on this topic for too long I think we're going in circles.
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Explained it today. People that are willing to put themselves out there in order to help come to a decision... Are more likely town. Those that hide, that are insecure on their stance, aren't.
 

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Thanks for the reveal.
I would have never guess based on your hints. Boring maybe used too much I wouldn't know I'm quite new.
Lmao what, with the way he was hinting all i was thinking about was a role that is used on the dead so I'm not surprised he Investigator, he was really obvious with his hints especially today
 

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Evil if you want I can tag every single player and let's see if anyone counter claims. No one will, I'm that confident. Unlike you and bodyguard.
 

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His reveal is fake and doesn't even match the prior hints. He could have discreetly mentioned janitors or something related to an other role on his hint.
No no, it's actually really spot on with the way he talked
A role that is boring, he also said he haven't used his role yet at one point today

All i was thinking about when he said that was a role that related to the dead
 

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Evil if you want I can tag every single player and let's see if anyone counter claims. No one will, I'm that confident. Unlike you and bodyguard.
Man, i claimed way before you, do you think i am afraid of someone else revealing the same role? Even after James was boasting to be a manly man role. Give me a break.
 

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You mean the assassin that assassinated in front of everyone? That is a much more popular role than shitty janitor?
 
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