Games Mafia Game 97 - Omoneko: Answer Arc - End Game

[Copy Panda]

The witch shall praise the wise and bestow four treasures. One shall be all the gold from the Golden Land. One shall be the resurrection of all the dead souls. One shall be the resurrection of the love that was lost. One shall be to put the witch to sleep for all time.

Post-game
End of Game Death Post
End of Game Winner Post
Updated OP
Night Actions Umi I + Night Actions Umi II
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[Holt]

More hint: My role is solo-use

RE: Jinx, tbh, the reason I wanted to stall was because I felt my plan could easily and cleanly resolve the issue. With hosts confirming illiusions retain pad access, I'm not quite sure how to proceed with her. Even if she is legit, escort could block Haya again just to keep her lynchable. There has been no counter Hoe claim, I'd feel this was a pretty decent time for the hoe to nail Jinx in. Then again, with her train already so far gone, perhaps they (assuming Jinx is escort) feel there's no need to intervene so they can stay hidden a bit longer. I don't see many ways out of this for Jinx, and I don't feel confident enough to really press

 

[Vandred]

A bit disappointed sakura didn't answer my question

(((((

RE: Jinx, tbh, the reason I wanted to stall was because I felt my plan could easily and cleanly resolve the issue. With hosts confirming illiusions retain pad access, I'm not quite sure how to proceed with her. Even if she is legit, escort could block Haya again just to keep her lynchable. There has been no counter Hoe claim, I'd feel this was a pretty decent time for the hoe to nail Jinx in. Then again, with her train already so far gone, perhaps they (assuming Jinx is escort) feel there's no need to intervene so they can stay hidden a bit longer. I don't see many ways out of this for Jinx, and I don't feel confident enough to really press

Pretty much the same way I'm feeling, especially after seeing some voting intentions from people I relatively trust and people I quite distrust - though I'm not sure if I'm letting that influence my judgment on people in turn.

As bad as Cres's case is looking right now, I'm warming up to the idea of delaying her sentence in case she's actually our only Prostitute and we're doing the scum a big favour. The pros might end up outweighing the cons in the long run.

But perhaps more than that, I can't accept that many Det claims roaming about when the chances of multiple liars being in there is really high.

 

[Farfalla]

Tbh I feel more uneasy about this train than Marm's. I don't recall if town Jinx used to play so carefree with her targets to the point of randomizing things just to annoy Van tho. With 31 players, if we have multiple killing parties and a good number of killers, I guess it makes sense for town to have a blocker - tho the chances of getting a killer in action with 31 players seem quite low... So maybe blockers make more sense for scums?

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Maybe I agree with Marcie?
@Maryxxi @Tatsumaki please reveal. Your hints are also very weak, just like Marm's till put under pressure.

 

[Purity of Magi]

3 hours left before day phase end.
Just the usual day time reminders.

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[Mazino]

As bad as Cres's case is looking right now, I'm warming up to the idea of delaying her sentence in case she's actually our only Prostitute and we're doing the scum a big favour. The pros might end up outweighing the cons in the long run.

But perhaps more than that, I can't accept that many Det claims roaming about when the chances of multiple liars being in there is really high.

that are kinda my thoughts. who among those 4 is the most sus for you ?

 

[Demonspeed]

Isn't it kinda odd to question Mary now when she posted to say she'll be inactive? It's likely that we won't see her again this DP.

 

[Vandred]

Tbh I feel more uneasy about this train than Marm's. I don't recall if town Jinx used to play so carefree with her targets to the point of randomizing things just to annoy Van tho. With 31 players, if we have multiple killing parties and a good number of killers, I guess it makes sense for town to have a blocker - tho the chances of getting a killer in action with 31 players seem quite low... So maybe blockers make more sense for scums?

I can confirm she would do something like randomizing action targets alright -3-' Which was where my point of assuming she could fake that herself if she were mafia came from. The point is kinda moot, which is what irks me about this and the screenshot thing. And, uh, I suppose that means there's more than one precedent for the other part as well... -3-"

 

[GrySun]

I can confirm she would do something like randomizing action targets alright -3-' Which was where my point of assuming she could fake that herself if she were mafia came from. The point is kinda moot, which is what irks me about this and the screenshot thing. And, uh, I suppose that means there's more than one precedent for the other part as well... -3-"

Isn‘t that too much thought into it for mafia Cres? I agree with what Cres said before, that she‘d need to do the Haya thing in advance, or do a randomizer for every player which is really excessive.

Now whether she‘d randomize her mafia escort target though, that I‘m not sure.

 

[Farfalla]

Now whether she‘d randomize her mafia escort target though, that I‘m not sure

Yeah but there's the possibility mafia can decide on a target and then she randomizes it multiple times until it lands on it so she can print screen it.

 

[GrySun]

Her screenshot also had the local time and all. Idk feels like a crazy amount of fake-pre-screencapping which I don't see Cres doing? Hm.

 

[Evil3ye]

But perhaps more than that, I can't accept that many Det claims roaming about when the chances of multiple liars being in there is really high.

But the detectives will have to deliver results each night, we have each day an other chance to evaluate the scumminess of those. They will have to clarify and justify each new day why they chose those targets and what the results are. Whereas Jinx will be saying "no time, hi Random-kun", we will be going in circles I feel like.

I think it is the best time to catch her now. And again, as I said, I feel like Hardy threw because she slipped up /was pushed against the wall first, so I don't believe either is town.

But if someone is willing to make a strong case against one of our detective guys, I would consider a switch.

 

[AwkwardMisha]

Unfortunately, I had way too much to work on today, so have been in and out of the forum.
Now, I already suspected Jinx from day one, but the Haya slip-up just consolidated my suspicions.

I need to read through the last 20 pages to see exactly what other turns of events developed throughout the day.
Until then

!Votekill JINX

 

[GrySun]

Well I hope you guys are right. Gotta ask Cres postgame what the randomizing is all about.

 

[Vandred]

that are kinda my thoughts. who among those 4 is the most sus for you ?

EH and Erin I think, then Faust and ironically enough DD last.

• EH has the whole hint stuff that's already been mentioned and discussed, a very convenient target, and the fact he revealed it when there was absolutely no need for it - despite having expressed frustration for DD's behaviour in doing a similar thing. He hasn't particularly struck me enough as townie so far to make me think it's a genuine messy town play, either.
  
  
• Erin has been evasive since the start, then had that bout with Gry that felt unnatural to me - accusing someone who says distrusts you of being a Mafia Det who learned your role and now wants to get rid of you is... a bit of a stretch? something I wouldn't expect from her since it puts her more in the spotlight than it helps her survive any - and today is claiming no result, possibly because Illusion, because of course that would happen.
  
  
• Faust is one of those kinds of players that I always have trouble pinning down, as they contribute far too little to let me make an idea. He's the odd one out and the most passive of the bunch, which is usually not a good sign. But the two above have given me more definite scum vibes so far.
  
  
• DD also had a late, convenient claim today but I think his fortunate D2 stunt has earned him enough credibility not to want to lynch him right after, lol. It's funny that we could have gotten lucky with a Paranoid Det's results, but I already mentioned yesterday that the result itself stopped being relevant soon after the reveal.

 

[Farfalla]

Her screenshot also had the local time and all. Idk feels like a crazy amount of fake-pre-screencapping which I don't see Cres doing? Hm.

No, maybe you didn't get it. The scenario would be the team says "let's block Haya", then it's not that hard to keep randomizing till the name Haya is on top for you to print screen.

 

[GrySun]

What do you people think of Shad? His response to Defuser in the game was reasonable enough, but I can‘t shake the feeling he plays unusual.

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No, maybe you didn't get it. The scenario would be the team says "let's block Haya", then it's not that hard to keep randomizing till the name Haya is on top for you to print screen.

But that‘s the thing, why would they block Haya? Not DD Det, not some scary veteran players?

 

[Vandred]

Isn‘t that too much thought into it for mafia Cres? I agree with what Cres said before, that she‘d need to do the Haya thing in advance, or do a randomizer for every player which is really excessive.

Now whether she‘d randomize her mafia escort target though, that I‘m not sure.

I don't think she'd randomize it as mafia, no. And I also know she's not exactly swimming in free time, especially in the scenario where she had to manage being on a mafia pad during a 9-hour night phase after a 27-hour day phase, which is the personal part of the issue that I dislike having to take into account.

So that's my biased opinion, you can check the previous posts on the matter for the unbiased one.

 

[Demonspeed]

So I am the only who thinks EH is the most trustworthy among the 4 Dets?

 

[Equaling Heaven]

the fact he revealed it when there was absolutely no need for it - despite having expressed frustration for DD's behaviour in doing a similar thing

Not the case I think. My target was on my shadow since day 1 using 3 posts as "reasoning". I now I'm confirmed town so how is it a problem to try and see if he was trying to frame me?
DD simply came into the thread announcing his role and result. I did it when I found out my target was prosecutor(town) and my result was guilty. Given he can't fake his role what I did was to add the food for thought on the other players that one of these dets are probably lying since I can be either Insane or Paranoid.

 

[GrySun]

So I am the only who thinks EH is the most trustworthy among the 4 Dets?

No I also think a mafia wouldn‘t pretend to have no target N1. It‘s so weird it must be the truth. Spy fears are irrelevant as in such a big game the odds of being spied on are low, nor did Heaven stick out D1 to be spied.

I agree his whole hinting is all over the place but him missing an action makes him more trustworthy for me.