Discussion Mafia Game "Discussion" Thread v.9

[gnut]

Pls review.

MH Specific Game Rules​

ACTIVITY RULES

• Be active in every day phase and post at least three times. If you don't do that, you will be hostkilled and banned from future games (Hall of Shame). If you are going to miss out a period of time due to real life events make sure to inform the host, who is going to judge each situation individually and decide whether or not taking the player out of the game is necessary.
  
• Place at least one vote every day phase. If you forget to place a vote you will get a Penality Vote on the next day phase.
  
• Don't post more than 100 times per day phase. This is to reduce spam and the volume of posts per game. Nobody has time to go through hundreds of one liner posts with the same content over and over again (Imperium Copyright Rule). If you hit the volume restriction, you will get a Penality Vote per 10 additional posts you make.
  
• Dead people can't talk. So don't post once your character is dead; do not help others once you are dead. You can however, lurk the thread. If you post regardlessly, you will be banned from future games (Hall of Shame).

OUTER THREAD RULES

• Absolutely DO NOT discuss the game outside of the game thread (unless you are Mafia members discussing it with other mafia through pms/piratepad). This is so that people do not reveal their roles and ruin the game. Players violating this rule will be instantly hostkilled and banned from future games (Hall of Shame).
  
• Do not directly comment on the current game, once you are dead. This is so you don't influence the players that are still playing. Violator of this rule will be banned from future games (Hall of Shame).

OTHER GAME RULES

• You are not allowed to post any screenshots, PMs or anything similar that can reveal your role, or the role of others. If you do, you will be hostkilled and banned from future games (Hall of Shame).
  
• You are not allowed to pretend being a Daytime Vigilant, Cowboy, or other roles, that have Day Commands. If you do that regardlessly, you will get a Penality Vote.

RULE BREAKING, PUNISHMENT & HALL OF SHAME

• If you disobey the roles above that are resulting with you being host killed and/or banned from future games, you will get registered in the Hall of Shame.
  
• One violation bans you from the upcoming game.
  
• A second violation of the same kind will ban you from the next three game.
  
• A third violation and you are out from all upcoming games.
  
• No amnesty or prescription until further notice.

so,we can't lie about having a role with day ability...wow everyone has to lie that they have a nightrole
but,gary got DD lying game before last...claiming cowboy...idk...i think this gives the mafia more of a restriction
but,i guess my point is kinda moot since there are only a handful of roles...i just think that it is hard to win as a mafia much less a 3rd party...gotta kinda leave some avenues of escape

i understand why you want the rule...with all the i challenge jokes...but tom's role this last game...vengeful is a good one to claim...how often we see it...so mafia/3rd party could use this as cover

 

[Evil3ye]

so,we can't lie about having a role with day ability...wow everyone has to lie that they have a nightrole
but,gary got DD lying game before last...claiming cowboy...idk...i think this gives the mafia more of a restriction
but,i guess my point is kinda moot since there are only a handful of roles...i just think that it is hard to win as a mafia much less a 3rd party...gotta kinda leave some avenues of escape

No, what I meant was you are not allowed to yell out DAY KILL gnut, when you are actually not the Vigilante.

-That fires up spam discussions like "OMG WTF JUST HAPPENED!!??!"; "LETS WAIT FOR THE HOST!!!!!!"; "EVIL COME FAST", which is bullshit, if it's fake. I mean, we had that rule with the Vigilante already before, it's now just expanded to the Cowboy, due to last game fake claims, and possible other added roles.

But it's just a Penalty Vote punishment, if you are up for the bluff - because you think you are such a genius and that would be a fun thing to do, go ahead.

 

[gnut]

No, what I meant was you are not allowed to yell out DAY KILL gnut, when you are actually not the Vigilante.

-That fires up spam discussions like "OMG WTF JUST HAPPENED!!??!"; "LETS WAIT FOR THE HOST!!!!!!"; "EVIL COME FAST", which is bullshit, if it's fake. I mean, we had that rule with the Vigilante already before, it's now just expanded to the Cowboy, due to last game fake claims, and possible other added roles.

But it's just a Penalty Vote punishment, if you are up for the bluff - because you think you are such a genius and that would be a fun thing to do, go ahead.

i said that herms
i was just trying to find out now...just in case i get such a role

 

[Faust]

I'd sign up for both then

In that two simultaneous game event, a member can only join one game not both unless you are jorped/Hardy.

No, what I meant was you are not allowed to yell out DAY KILL gnut, when you are actually not the Vigilante.

-That fires up spam discussions like "OMG WTF JUST HAPPENED!!??!"; "LETS WAIT FOR THE HOST!!!!!!"; "EVIL COME FAST", which is bullshit, if it's fake. I mean, we had that rule with the Vigilante already before, it's now just expanded to the Cowboy, due to last game fake claims, and possible other added roles.

But it's just a Penalty Vote punishment, if you are up for the bluff - because you think you are such a genius and that would be a fun thing to do, go ahead.

It was xi0 who started that shit after I (Legit Cowboy) challenged Hardy to a duel.
I lose the duel and you guys suffered the Hardy Spam. Who's unlucky now?

 

[xi0]

It was xi0 who started that shit after I (Legit Cowboy) challenged Hardy to a duel.
I lose the duel and you guys suffered the Hardy Spam. Who's unlucky now?

No it wasn't you noob, it was digitaldude in the previous freaking game...and he did it before with Daytime Vigilante. I was making a joke, it's not my fault that others followed.

Still, the rule change is a good idea, I guess.

 

[Evil3ye]

MH Specific Hosting Regulations​

DAY PHASES & VOTINGS

• Each active player has to vote during a day phase. Each player has the chance to change his vote once.
  
• A day phase can be ended earlier, if and only if one player has collected more than a half+1 of the second votes ("locked votes") of all players and each player has voted at least once (Absolute Majority Voting).
  
• If by the end of the the regular time of the day phase two or more players have the same amount of votes, the second votes ("locked votes") are decisive. The player with the most locked votes is being lynched.
  
• If one or more players have the same amount of votes and locked votes, each player is getting the possibility to change his vote one more time. The regular day phase is being expanded for the means of further discussions.
  
• If the voting result is the same by the end of the expanded day phase, both players are being lynched.

NIGHT PHASES & ACTIONS

• During the night phase each player that has a role with a night action may send it in to the host via PM.
  
• The player may or may not make use of his action. If the player misses the deadline and does not submit his action within the given time, it is seen as not used action. It is possible, however, to submit it before the start of the night, if the player already knows he has no time to do it later.
  
• The night actions are listed in Priority groups. The higher the priority ranking, the more likely it is that the night action is being executed successfully. First actions to be performed are those from P1, then P2 and ending with P3.
  
• If two night action roles from the same priority group target the same player at night a coin flip will decide which night action is executed first.

NIGHT ACTIONS PRIORITY GROUPS

1. PRIORITY - "ROLE BLOCKING"
   (Prostitute, Hypnotist, Mafia Escort, etc.)
   
2. PRIORITY - "SAVING & INVESTIGATING" (& more)
   (Doctor, Detective, Spy, Sickly Townie, Hider, etc.)
   
3. PRIORITY - "KILLING & RECRUITING"
   (Mafia Member, Mafia Boss, Third Party, Time Bomb, Insane Doctor, Maison Recruiter, etc.)

Sign here.

 

[gnut]

MH Specific Hosting Regulations​

DAY PHASES & VOTINGS

• Each active player has to vote during a day phase. Each player has the chance to change his vote once.
  
• A day phase can be ended earlier, if and only if one player has collected more than a half+1 of the second votes ("locked votes") of all players and each player has voted at least once (Absolute Majority Voting).
  
• If by the end of the the regular time of the day phase two or more players have the same amount of votes, the second votes ("locked votes") are decisive. The player with the most locked votes is being lynched.
  
• If one or more players have the same amount of votes and locked votes, each player is getting the possibility to change his vote one more time. The regular day phase is being expanded for the means of further discussions.
  
• If the voting result is the same by the end of the expanded day phase, both players are being lynched.

NIGHT PHASES & ACTIONS

• During the night phase each player that has a role with a night action MAY send it in to the host via PM.
  
• The player may or may not make use of his action. If the player misses the deadline and does not submit his action within the given time, it is seen as not used action. It is possible, however, to submit it before the start of the night, if the player already knows he has no time to do it later.
  
• The night actions are listed in Priority groups. The higher the priority ranking, the more likely it is that the night action is being executed successfully. First actions to be performed are those from P1, then P2 and ending with P3.
  
• If two night action roles from the same priority group target the same player at night a coin flip will decide which night action is executed first.

NIGHT ACTIONS PRIORITY GROUPS

1. PRIORITY - "ROLE BLOCKING"
   (Prostitute, Hypnotist, Mafia Escort, etc.)
   
2. PRIORITY - "SAVING & INVESTIGATING" (& more)
   (Doctor, Detective, Spy, Sickly Townie, Hider, etc.)
   
3. PRIORITY - "KILLING & RECRUITING"
   (Mafia Member, Mafia Boss, Third Party, Time Bomb, Insane Doctor, Maison Recruiter, etc.)

Sign here.

 

[Organizized]

I'm not in. Possibly the next one!

 

[Evil3ye]

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07. [user]Farfalla[/user]
08. [user]digitaldude[/user]
09. [user]wizzard[/user]
10. [user]MidoBan[/user]
11. [user]Imperium[/user]
12. [user]FaustXIII[/user]
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---------- Post added at 12:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:15 PM ----------

Yeah, like discussed before and mentioned in the point below, it is impossible to make night actions mandatory moves in the game, as there is no reasonable way found yet to deal with those who forgot. Thus 'may'.

 

[Hakuteiken]

Yeah, like discussed before and mentioned in the point below, it is impossible to make night actions mandatory moves in the game, as there is no reasonable way found yet to deal with those who forgot. Thus 'may'.

I was thinking maybe we could use an action penalty for the next night phase when you don't notify the host about your action (whether you are using it or not). Then I realized that was also open to be exploited, with all potential night role faking about "I have been busy last night phase, so, I have received an action penalty, therefore I have no results to speak of " and whatnot.
A pity, since it would be nice to drawing a line between choosing not to use your action or completely going inactive and forgetting it.

 

[Nuno]

Yeah I see the problem in people being able to choose to not use a night action, but then again it's always sort of been that way. People could always just stay MIA and thus not use their action. In the end it's better to notify the host so the next phase can be started faster.

Really it's nothing new, it's always been there, only not a topic for discussion. A hidden issue if you will.

 

[Farfalla]

Uh, I'm out. Sorry, my week is a nightmare, I doubt my next week will be better, and I don't support the new rules, so I rather step down. No reason to play if I'd be struggling and not enjoying xP

 

[Nuno]

What do you not support?

 

[Farfalla]

The 100 posts/day one, for reasons stated before.

 

[Xadyu]

New rules, what?!

I still haven't read the old ones!

 

[Hakuteiken]

100 is actually a nominal value. The real value is a bit lower, if you don't want to be the subject of late phase bandwagons xD
I think I'll keep around 10-20 posts to spare, just in case.

 

[Spectrum]

I think 50 posts per day phase is more than enough lol

 

[Nuno]

I posted 302 posts in the previous spam game. I was alive for 5 day phases. I felt like I posted extremely much

 

[Hakuteiken]

That's a matter of style. If you are a prosecutor like DD, or an attorney like me, that's a tiny number, since you are bound to talk a lot

 

[Nuno]

That's a matter of style. If you are a prosecutor like DD, or an attorney like me, that's a tiny number, since you are bound to talk a lot

You only posted a little over a hundred more posts though, Haku.

But indeed it's not my style to be the entire day phase available to post constantly. I do other things too. Still I feel like I don't need to post any more than I did. I feel like I posted a damn lot. Sometimes the game takes advantage from slowing down slightly. People need to think too, not just post. For example the rash day 5 voting could have been prevented with a slower pace and less headless spamming.